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thellama73 
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 Posted: November 01 2010 at 12:55 |
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I don't care what anyone says. I like Tom Cruise. I always enjoy his movies and he seems like a genuinely nice guy. So what if he's a little crazy with the scientology thing? I'm a little crazy about libertarianism. We all have our quirks.
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manofmystery
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Posted: November 01 2010 at 12:58 |
 thellama73 wrote:
I don't care what anyone says. I like Tom Cruise. I always enjoy his movies and he seems like a genuinely nice guy. So what if he's a little crazy with the scientology thing? I'm a little crazy about libertarianism. We all have our quirks. |
I'm so very disappointed in you
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thellama73
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Posted: November 01 2010 at 12:59 |
manofmystery wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
I don't care what anyone says. I like Tom Cruise. I always enjoy his movies and he seems like a genuinely nice guy. So what if he's a little crazy with the scientology thing? I'm a little crazy about libertarianism. We all have our quirks. |
I'm so very disappointed in you |
YOu didn't think his acting was good in Collateral? I did.
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The T
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Posted: November 01 2010 at 13:04 |
thellama73 wrote:
manofmystery wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
I don't care what anyone says. I like Tom Cruise. I always enjoy his movies and he seems like a genuinely nice guy. So what if he's a little crazy with the scientology thing? I'm a little crazy about libertarianism. We all have our quirks. |
I'm so very disappointed in you |
YOu didn't think his acting was good in Collateral? I did.
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Failed Libertarian.
Actually, his acting is always at least good. That he's crazy outside of the acting world makes no difference...
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JJLehto
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Posted: November 01 2010 at 13:07 |
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Oh yeah, I could not care any less about his personal life.
His acting is just lesser then Will Smiths, in this case.
Though IMO he is not bad...had some good roles.
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Icarium
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Posted: November 01 2010 at 13:17 |
let'z see
Born on 4th of July, Rain-Man, the Collateral, Jerry MaGuire, Top Gun, Risky Buisness, Mission Impossible, and my thee favourites Minority Report, the Last Samurai and War of the Worlds
Will have also a nice list of admireable films my favourites are Men in Black
but also, Hancock, Bad Boys (I and II) Independence day, I-Robot, I am A Legend, Muhammed Ali, Fresh Prince in Bel-Air
Edited by aginor - November 01 2010 at 13:18
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manofmystery
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Posted: November 01 2010 at 18:31 |
thellama73 wrote:
manofmystery wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
I don't care what anyone says. I like Tom Cruise. I always enjoy his movies and he seems like a genuinely nice guy. So what if he's a little crazy with the scientology thing? I'm a little crazy about libertarianism. We all have our quirks. |
I'm so very disappointed in you |
YOu didn't think his acting was good in Collateral? I did.
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He doesn't possess the ability to play a believable human being. It could be that his is, in fact, an alien but it seems more likely that he's just a completely zoned out simpleton. He acts much like I'd imagine a robot would if Tom's lines were programmed into it.
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Time always wins.
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JLocke
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Posted: November 01 2010 at 18:38 |
manofmystery wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
manofmystery wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
I don't care what anyone says. I like Tom Cruise. I always enjoy his movies and he seems like a genuinely nice guy. So what if he's a little crazy with the scientology thing? I'm a little crazy about libertarianism. We all have our quirks. |
I'm so very disappointed in you |
YOu didn't think his acting was good in Collateral? I did.
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He doesn't possess the ability to play a believable human being. It could be that his is, in fact, an alien but it seems more likely that he's just a completely zoned out simpleton. He acts much like I'd imagine a robot would if Tom's lines were programmed into it. |
Give me an example of a fine modern actor in your eyes.
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manofmystery
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Posted: November 01 2010 at 19:24 |
JLocke wrote:
manofmystery wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
manofmystery wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
I don't care what anyone says. I like Tom Cruise. I always enjoy his movies and he seems like a genuinely nice guy. So what if he's a little crazy with the scientology thing? I'm a little crazy about libertarianism. We all have our quirks. |
I'm so very disappointed in you |
YOu didn't think his acting was good in Collateral? I did.
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He doesn't possess the ability to play a believable human being. It could be that his is, in fact, an alien but it seems more likely that he's just a completely zoned out simpleton. He acts much like I'd imagine a robot would if Tom's lines were programmed into it. |
Give me an example of a fine modern actor in your eyes. |
Modern as in still alive: Bill Murray, Robert Duvall, Anthony Hopkins, De Niro (before he started making comedies)
Tom contemporaries (give or take a few years): Daniel Day-Lewis, Gary Oldman, Ed Norton
Hell, there are a ton of highly limited actors out there that can at least pull off believable human interaction. I know that since Tom can't do it in real life then I shouldn't expect him to be able to do it on screen.
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JLocke
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Posted: November 01 2010 at 20:11 |
manofmystery wrote:
JLocke wrote:
manofmystery wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
manofmystery wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
I don't care what anyone says. I like Tom Cruise. I always enjoy his movies and he seems like a genuinely nice guy. So what if he's a little crazy with the scientology thing? I'm a little crazy about libertarianism. We all have our quirks. |
I'm so very disappointed in you |
YOu didn't think his acting was good in Collateral? I did.
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He doesn't possess the ability to play a believable human being. It could be that his is, in fact, an alien but it seems more likely that he's just a completely zoned out simpleton. He acts much like I'd imagine a robot would if Tom's lines were programmed into it. |
Give me an example of a fine modern actor in your eyes. |
Modern as in still alive: Bill Murray, Robert Duvall, Anthony Hopkins, De Niro (before he started making comedies)
Tom contemporaries (give or take a few years): Daniel Day-Lewis, Gary Oldman, Ed Norton
Hell, there are a ton of highly limited actors out there that can at least pull off believable human interaction. I know that since Tom can't do it in real life then I shouldn't expect him to be able to do it on screen. |
Well, I guess all I can really is I don't agree with you, and I don't know what an actor has to do in order to meet your requirements to make them 'good' in your view.
Out of the older actors you named, I would say the first two aren't particularly impressive to me, but of the ones you listed who you oddly enough think are around Tom's age, I love them all. But I would add to the total list a few more: Liam Neeson, Denzel Washington, Leonardo DiCaprio, Robert Downey Jr., and perhaps Natalie Portman.
I'm not sure if you agree with any of the folks I just listed, but at least you aren't the type who thinks good actors died with Lawrence Olivier. That means you're at least sensible enough about it. 
Edited by JLocke - November 01 2010 at 20:11
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manofmystery
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Posted: November 01 2010 at 20:30 |
JLocke wrote:
manofmystery wrote:
JLocke wrote:
manofmystery wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
manofmystery wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
I don't care what anyone says. I like Tom Cruise. I always enjoy his movies and he seems like a genuinely nice guy. So what if he's a little crazy with the scientology thing? I'm a little crazy about libertarianism. We all have our quirks. |
I'm so very disappointed in you |
YOu didn't think his acting was good in Collateral? I did.
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He doesn't possess the ability to play a believable human being. It could be that his is, in fact, an alien but it seems more likely that he's just a completely zoned out simpleton. He acts much like I'd imagine a robot would if Tom's lines were programmed into it. |
Give me an example of a fine modern actor in your eyes. |
Modern as in still alive: Bill Murray, Robert Duvall, Anthony Hopkins, De Niro (before he started making comedies)
Tom contemporaries (give or take a few years): Daniel Day-Lewis, Gary Oldman, Ed Norton
Hell, there are a ton of highly limited actors out there that can at least pull off believable human interaction. I know that since Tom can't do it in real life then I shouldn't expect him to be able to do it on screen. |
Well, I guess all I can really is I don't agree with you, and I don't know what an actor has to do in order to meet your requirements to make them 'good' in your view.
Out of the older actors you named, I would say the first two aren't particularly impressive to me, but of the ones you listed who you oddly enough think are around Tom's age, I love them all. But I would add to the total list a few more: Liam Neeson, Denzel Washington, Leonardo DiCaprio, Robert Downey Jr., and perhaps Natalie Portman.
I'm not sure if you agree with any of the folks I just listed, but at least you aren't the type who thinks good actors died with Lawrence Olivier. That means you're at least sensible enough about it. |
Norton was the biggest stretch on the age. He is many years younger. Oldman and Day-Lewis are only few years older than Cruise and their careers do overlap.
I enjoy Liam Neeson, Robert Downey Jr, and Natalie Portman as well.
I enjoy a lot of actors but to me the really "good" one are those who have range and turn in consistently strong performances even if the movie itself is a junker.
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JLocke
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Posted: November 01 2010 at 20:52 |
manofmystery wrote:
Norton was the biggest stretch on the age. He is many years younger. Oldman and Day-Lewis are only few years older than Cruise and their careers do overlap.
I enjoy Liam Neeson, Robert Downey Jr, and Natalie Portman as well.
I enjoy a lot of actors but to me the really "good" one are those who have range and turn in consistently strong performances even if the movie itself is a junker. |
Well, I agree, but I guess in my case the actors I just listed do that for me. I have yet to see a film featuring them where I didn't believe the part. As for Tom, well, I haven't seen all of his films, but I believed him as a drunk, has-been soldier-turned Samurai in The Last Samurai, and believed him as the lucid-dreaming mystery man David Aames in Vanilla Sky, and I also believed him as the successful businessman who discovers he has a savant for a brother in Rain Man. I guess my requirements aren't as specific as yours, or something. Tom Cruise the person is, by all accounts, a crazy, crazy man who is so separated from reality, it's chilling. But that doesn't make Tom Cruise the actor rubbish in my eyes.
Edited by JLocke - November 01 2010 at 20:53
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: November 01 2010 at 21:09 |
I think Cruise is OK as an actor, but when it comes to acting, I'm more drawn to the ladies. 
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: November 01 2010 at 22:41 |
How expensive is it to go on a Tom Cruise anyway? 
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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SaltyJon
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Posted: November 02 2010 at 00:47 |
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In West Philadelphia, born and raised...
The Fresh Prince gets my vote. I love watching marathons of that show.
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Tapfret
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Posted: November 02 2010 at 11:09 |
Slartibartfast wrote:
How expensive is it to go on a Tom Cruise anyway?
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Depends on what you mean by "go on".
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JLocke
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Posted: November 02 2010 at 12:29 |
Tapfret wrote:
Slartibartfast wrote:
How expensive is it to go on a Tom Cruise anyway?
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Depends on what you mean by "go on".
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Just replace the word 'go' with its opposite, then you'll get a better idea.
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Mia
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Posted: March 29 2011 at 16:52 |
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Will Smith because I really hate Tom Cruise...not that he hasn't done some good movies, I loved Rain Man, he just annoys the hell out of me.
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Evolutionary Sleeper
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Posted: March 29 2011 at 16:58 |
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I grew up on the Fresh Prince. Smith.
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Posted: March 29 2011 at 17:00 |
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Will Smith!
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