Will Smith vs Tom Cruise
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Topic: Will Smith vs Tom Cruise
Posted By: Icarium
Subject: Will Smith vs Tom Cruise
Date Posted: October 31 2010 at 10:31
the two gratest blockbusters in Hollywood, the two biggest stars in movie buisness
the rap icon whom become a Hollywood icon or the cool guy who become a nut job
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Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: October 31 2010 at 12:00
Will Smith can at least, sort of, act.
Tom Cruise is, and always has been, awful in everything.
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Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: October 31 2010 at 13:21
I'm surprised that neither one hasn't started a 24 hr Scientology cable channel.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: October 31 2010 at 13:47
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: October 31 2010 at 13:49
Will is so cool......Tom is so well, uncool.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 31 2010 at 13:59
And two actors with links to Scientology....
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: October 31 2010 at 14:01
Neither, really, but I liked Tom Cruise on Eyes Wide Shut.
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Posted By: June
Date Posted: October 31 2010 at 14:58
I didn't know Will Smith was into Scientology.
Dang it, you just ruined him for me.
Voted for him anyway. At least he's had the decency to avoid public displays of insanity.
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Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: October 31 2010 at 15:42
Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: October 31 2010 at 16:44
manofmystery wrote:
Tom Cruise can at least, sort of, act.
Will Smith is, and always has been, awful in everything. | fixed (IMO)
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Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: October 31 2010 at 17:09
aapatsos wrote:
manofmystery wrote:
Tom Cruise can at least, sort of, act.
Will Smith is, and always has been, awful in everything. | fixed (IMO)
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*spits on you*
Tom Cruise has not put together one decent acting effort his entire career. Will Smith can at least hold his own in comedic roles, if nothing else.
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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: October 31 2010 at 17:58
I think they can both act quite well. You guys are too particular. Not everyone acts in that hammy, shakespearean way anymore.
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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: October 31 2010 at 17:59
Oh yeah, and they're both also complete nutjobs outside of their careers.
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Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: October 31 2010 at 18:53
Tom Cruise was amazing in Magnolia, the P.T. Anderson epic - but overall Will Smith is easier to watch.
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: October 31 2010 at 18:57
I enjoy Smith more than Cruise by far.
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Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: October 31 2010 at 19:23
Epignosis wrote:
I enjoy Smith more than Cruise by far.
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me too, although I thought Cruise was great in "Rain Man", but that was a long time ago
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: October 31 2010 at 19:40
I'd rather have Will Smith as friend, and I'd rather have Will Smith as spiritual advisor, and I'd rather have him as pretty much anything short of schizophrenia tutor...
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 00:30
Will Smith
Used to not think much of him as an actor, and while he may not be the best I've actually grown to like him.
Cruise, well he aint bad but can't say I've really been wowed ever.
As for personal things, don't give a crap. Nor do I know them personally. So yeah, Smith is the better actor for sure.
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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 02:27
After all these years TC finally played an entertaining character in "Tropic Thunder". But he stands out as half responsible for actually making a Stanley Kubrick movie suck.
WS is by far the better entertainer.
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Posted By: Atoms
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 04:45
Cruise can thank Kubrick for my vote
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 12:55
I don't care what anyone says. I like Tom Cruise. I always enjoy his movies and he seems like a genuinely nice guy. So what if he's a little crazy with the scientology thing? I'm a little crazy about libertarianism. We all have our quirks.
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Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 12:58
thellama73 wrote:
I don't care what anyone says. I like Tom Cruise. I always enjoy his movies and he seems like a genuinely nice guy. So what if he's a little crazy with the scientology thing? I'm a little crazy about libertarianism. We all have our quirks. |
I'm so very disappointed in you
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 12:59
manofmystery wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
I don't care what anyone says. I like Tom Cruise. I always enjoy his movies and he seems like a genuinely nice guy. So what if he's a little crazy with the scientology thing? I'm a little crazy about libertarianism. We all have our quirks. |
I'm so very disappointed in you |
YOu didn't think his acting was good in Collateral? I did.
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 13:04
thellama73 wrote:
manofmystery wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
I don't care what anyone says. I like Tom Cruise. I always enjoy his movies and he seems like a genuinely nice guy. So what if he's a little crazy with the scientology thing? I'm a little crazy about libertarianism. We all have our quirks. |
I'm so very disappointed in you |
YOu didn't think his acting was good in Collateral? I did.
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Failed Libertarian.
Actually, his acting is always at least good. That he's crazy outside of the acting world makes no difference...
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 13:07
Oh yeah, I could not care any less about his personal life.
His acting is just lesser then Will Smiths, in this case. Though IMO he is not bad...had some good roles.
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 13:17
let'z see
Born on 4th of July, Rain-Man, the Collateral, Jerry MaGuire, Top Gun, Risky Buisness, Mission Impossible, and my thee favourites Minority Report, the Last Samurai and War of the Worlds
Will have also a nice list of admireable films my favourites are Men in Black
but also, Hancock, Bad Boys (I and II) Independence day, I-Robot, I am A Legend, Muhammed Ali, Fresh Prince in Bel-Air
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Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 18:31
thellama73 wrote:
manofmystery wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
I don't care what anyone says. I like Tom Cruise. I always enjoy his movies and he seems like a genuinely nice guy. So what if he's a little crazy with the scientology thing? I'm a little crazy about libertarianism. We all have our quirks. |
I'm so very disappointed in you |
YOu didn't think his acting was good in Collateral? I did.
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He doesn't possess the ability to play a believable human being. It could be that his is, in fact, an alien but it seems more likely that he's just a completely zoned out simpleton. He acts much like I'd imagine a robot would if Tom's lines were programmed into it.
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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 18:38
manofmystery wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
manofmystery wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
I don't care what anyone says. I like Tom Cruise. I always enjoy his movies and he seems like a genuinely nice guy. So what if he's a little crazy with the scientology thing? I'm a little crazy about libertarianism. We all have our quirks. |
I'm so very disappointed in you |
YOu didn't think his acting was good in Collateral? I did.
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He doesn't possess the ability to play a believable human being. It could be that his is, in fact, an alien but it seems more likely that he's just a completely zoned out simpleton. He acts much like I'd imagine a robot would if Tom's lines were programmed into it. |
Give me an example of a fine modern actor in your eyes.
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Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 19:24
JLocke wrote:
manofmystery wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
manofmystery wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
I don't care what anyone says. I like Tom Cruise. I always enjoy his movies and he seems like a genuinely nice guy. So what if he's a little crazy with the scientology thing? I'm a little crazy about libertarianism. We all have our quirks. |
I'm so very disappointed in you |
YOu didn't think his acting was good in Collateral? I did.
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He doesn't possess the ability to play a believable human being. It could be that his is, in fact, an alien but it seems more likely that he's just a completely zoned out simpleton. He acts much like I'd imagine a robot would if Tom's lines were programmed into it. |
Give me an example of a fine modern actor in your eyes. |
Modern as in still alive: Bill Murray, Robert Duvall, Anthony Hopkins, De Niro (before he started making comedies)
Tom contemporaries (give or take a few years): Daniel Day-Lewis, Gary Oldman, Ed Norton
Hell, there are a ton of highly limited actors out there that can at least pull off believable human interaction. I know that since Tom can't do it in real life then I shouldn't expect him to be able to do it on screen.
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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 20:11
manofmystery wrote:
JLocke wrote:
manofmystery wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
manofmystery wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
I don't care what anyone says. I like Tom Cruise. I always enjoy his movies and he seems like a genuinely nice guy. So what if he's a little crazy with the scientology thing? I'm a little crazy about libertarianism. We all have our quirks. |
I'm so very disappointed in you |
YOu didn't think his acting was good in Collateral? I did.
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He doesn't possess the ability to play a believable human being. It could be that his is, in fact, an alien but it seems more likely that he's just a completely zoned out simpleton. He acts much like I'd imagine a robot would if Tom's lines were programmed into it. |
Give me an example of a fine modern actor in your eyes. |
Modern as in still alive: Bill Murray, Robert Duvall, Anthony Hopkins, De Niro (before he started making comedies)
Tom contemporaries (give or take a few years): Daniel Day-Lewis, Gary Oldman, Ed Norton
Hell, there are a ton of highly limited actors out there that can at least pull off believable human interaction. I know that since Tom can't do it in real life then I shouldn't expect him to be able to do it on screen. |
Well, I guess all I can really is I don't agree with you, and I don't know what an actor has to do in order to meet your requirements to make them 'good' in your view.
Out of the older actors you named, I would say the first two aren't particularly impressive to me, but of the ones you listed who you oddly enough think are around Tom's age, I love them all. But I would add to the total list a few more: Liam Neeson, Denzel Washington, Leonardo DiCaprio, Robert Downey Jr., and perhaps Natalie Portman.
I'm not sure if you agree with any of the folks I just listed, but at least you aren't the type who thinks good actors died with Lawrence Olivier. That means you're at least sensible enough about it.
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Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 20:30
JLocke wrote:
manofmystery wrote:
JLocke wrote:
manofmystery wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
manofmystery wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
I don't care what anyone says. I like Tom Cruise. I always enjoy his movies and he seems like a genuinely nice guy. So what if he's a little crazy with the scientology thing? I'm a little crazy about libertarianism. We all have our quirks. |
I'm so very disappointed in you |
YOu didn't think his acting was good in Collateral? I did.
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He doesn't possess the ability to play a believable human being. It could be that his is, in fact, an alien but it seems more likely that he's just a completely zoned out simpleton. He acts much like I'd imagine a robot would if Tom's lines were programmed into it. |
Give me an example of a fine modern actor in your eyes. |
Modern as in still alive: Bill Murray, Robert Duvall, Anthony Hopkins, De Niro (before he started making comedies)
Tom contemporaries (give or take a few years): Daniel Day-Lewis, Gary Oldman, Ed Norton
Hell, there are a ton of highly limited actors out there that can at least pull off believable human interaction. I know that since Tom can't do it in real life then I shouldn't expect him to be able to do it on screen. |
Well, I guess all I can really is I don't agree with you, and I don't know what an actor has to do in order to meet your requirements to make them 'good' in your view.
Out of the older actors you named, I would say the first two aren't particularly impressive to me, but of the ones you listed who you oddly enough think are around Tom's age, I love them all. But I would add to the total list a few more: Liam Neeson, Denzel Washington, Leonardo DiCaprio, Robert Downey Jr., and perhaps Natalie Portman.
I'm not sure if you agree with any of the folks I just listed, but at least you aren't the type who thinks good actors died with Lawrence Olivier. That means you're at least sensible enough about it. |
Norton was the biggest stretch on the age. He is many years younger. Oldman and Day-Lewis are only few years older than Cruise and their careers do overlap.
I enjoy Liam Neeson, Robert Downey Jr, and Natalie Portman as well.
I enjoy a lot of actors but to me the really "good" one are those who have range and turn in consistently strong performances even if the movie itself is a junker.
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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 20:52
manofmystery wrote:
Norton was the biggest stretch on the age. He is many years younger. Oldman and Day-Lewis are only few years older than Cruise and their careers do overlap.
I enjoy Liam Neeson, Robert Downey Jr, and Natalie Portman as well.
I enjoy a lot of actors but to me the really "good" one are those who have range and turn in consistently strong performances even if the movie itself is a junker. |
Well, I agree, but I guess in my case the actors I just listed do that for me. I have yet to see a film featuring them where I didn't believe the part. As for Tom, well, I haven't seen all of his films, but I believed him as a drunk, has-been soldier-turned Samurai in The Last Samurai, and believed him as the lucid-dreaming mystery man David Aames in Vanilla Sky, and I also believed him as the successful businessman who discovers he has a savant for a brother in Rain Man. I guess my requirements aren't as specific as yours, or something. Tom Cruise the person is, by all accounts, a crazy, crazy man who is so separated from reality, it's chilling. But that doesn't make Tom Cruise the actor rubbish in my eyes.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 21:09
I think Cruise is OK as an actor, but when it comes to acting, I'm more drawn to the ladies.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 22:41
How expensive is it to go on a Tom Cruise anyway?
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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 00:47
In West Philadelphia, born and raised...
The Fresh Prince gets my vote. I love watching marathons of that show.
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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 11:09
Slartibartfast wrote:
How expensive is it to go on a Tom Cruise anyway?
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Depends on what you mean by "go on".
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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 12:29
Tapfret wrote:
Slartibartfast wrote:
How expensive is it to go on a Tom Cruise anyway?
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Depends on what you mean by "go on".
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Just replace the word 'go' with its opposite, then you'll get a better idea.
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Posted By: Mia
Date Posted: March 29 2011 at 16:52
Will Smith because I really hate Tom Cruise...not that he hasn't done some good movies, I loved Rain Man, he just annoys the hell out of me.
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Posted By: Evolutionary Sleeper
Date Posted: March 29 2011 at 16:58
I grew up on the Fresh Prince. Smith.
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Posted By: Prog Geo
Date Posted: March 29 2011 at 17:00
Will Smith!
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: March 29 2011 at 17:06
Couldn't we just put both of them in a time capsule for some later generation to solve?
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