Author |
Topic Search Topic Options
|
two steves
Forum Newbie
Joined: November 15 2009
Location: NYC
Status: Offline
Points: 12
|
Topic: Phil Collins says something I didn't expect Posted: October 26 2010 at 22:15 |
Phil Collins did a long interview on the YES network in NYC (The Yes network is a funny name as it has nothing to do with the band---it is the network for all things NY Yankees) But it also has adult style interview shows. He was asked what he thought was the most perfect representation of a Genesis song---and without a beat--he says, "Supper's Ready"!!! Would not have thought that great prog song was on Phil's mind at all.
|
|
JLocke
Prog Reviewer
Joined: November 18 2007
Status: Offline
Points: 4900
|
Posted: October 26 2010 at 22:40 |
Any links or video footage?
|
|
Any Colour You Like
Prog Reviewer
Joined: May 15 2009
Status: Offline
Points: 12294
|
Posted: October 26 2010 at 22:44 |
Who'd have thought Phil Collins, the drummer for Genesis at the peak of their progressive era would enjoy prog of all things!
|
|
Ivan_Melgar_M
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: April 27 2004
Location: Peru
Status: Offline
Points: 19557
|
Posted: October 26 2010 at 23:13 |
After all he said in the 80's and 90's, I don't believe him.
His contradictions already posted of past threads are legendary.
Iván
|
|
|
Anthony
Forum Senior Member
Joined: April 08 2006
Location: Netherlands
Status: Offline
Points: 774
|
Posted: October 27 2010 at 03:43 |
Then why wasn't it played on the 2007 reunion tour?
|
Future prosperity lies in the way you heal the world with love
(Introitus - The hand that feeds you)
|
|
Textbook
Forum Senior Member
Joined: October 08 2009
Status: Offline
Points: 3281
|
Posted: October 27 2010 at 04:09 |
Yeah, close study of Phil Collins will suggest the guy is very calculating. He knows that history treats his prog output much kinder than his pop output. I wouldn't put it past him for that to be a disingenuous answer in order to make critics and the old guard feel more kindly towards him.
|
|
sigod
Forum Senior Member
Joined: September 17 2004
Location: London
Status: Offline
Points: 2779
|
Posted: October 27 2010 at 04:18 |
"Well what chance does that give me? Oh all right then, I AM the Messiah!"
"Well
The poor bugger can't win can he?
|
I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision.
- Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill
|
|
JLocke
Prog Reviewer
Joined: November 18 2007
Status: Offline
Points: 4900
|
Posted: October 27 2010 at 04:22 |
Like I said, I would very much like a transcribed account or video footage of this interview so I can see for myself how quickly and honestly he seemed to respond to the question.
|
|
Intruder
Forum Senior Member
Joined: May 13 2005
Status: Offline
Points: 2209
|
Posted: October 27 2010 at 04:23 |
Just Phil the Shill selling the back catalouge by the pound....aren't the second wave of re-re-remasters out soon?
|
I like to feel the suspense when you're certain you know I am there.....
|
|
Blacksword
Prog Reviewer
Joined: June 22 2004
Location: England
Status: Offline
Points: 16130
|
Posted: October 27 2010 at 04:24 |
He once claimed that The Lamb was his favourite album overall, which I thought was completely bizarre, but then perspectives can change over time. How he felt about the band when they were doing Invisible Touch may be very different to how he feels now with hindsight.
In any cse he wasn't being asked his favourite Genesis song, but which song was most representative of the band. There's a difference.
|
Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
|
|
JLocke
Prog Reviewer
Joined: November 18 2007
Status: Offline
Points: 4900
|
Posted: October 27 2010 at 04:28 |
Well, if you believe Phil, he and the other guys were the ones who really cared about the music on The Lamb while Gabriel just sat at a desk and wrote lyrics.
|
|
topographicbroadways
Forum Senior Member
Joined: May 20 2010
Location: Australia
Status: Offline
Points: 5575
|
Posted: October 27 2010 at 06:38 |
Tony Banks wrote most of and then there were three up to mama and he always says the most complete genesis recording is supper's ready so it's not a surprise that they all still have a soft spot for the prog
|
|
|
Roj
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: July 02 2008
Location: Manchester, UK
Status: Offline
Points: 3126
|
Posted: October 27 2010 at 07:33 |
More like what we expect of Phil is what he said as a prelude to a solo show of his I saw recently on Sky Arts. "Motown has always been my life" was the long and short of it.
Given that, I guess he actually prefers Sussussudio to anything Genesis ever made.
|
|
Blacksword
Prog Reviewer
Joined: June 22 2004
Location: England
Status: Offline
Points: 16130
|
Posted: October 27 2010 at 07:40 |
Roj M30 wrote:
More like what we expect of Phil is what he said as a prelude to a solo show of his I saw recently on Sky Arts. "Motown has always been my life" was the long and short of it.
Given that, I guess he actually prefers Sussussudio to anything Genesis ever made. |
I expect so. I saw that too. He was a massive Motown fan before joining Genesis, but he must have had a taste for progressive music to have spent the best part of a decade making it. He also used to go and see Yes at the Marquee club regularly as a teenager, and had expressed an interest in auditioning for them.
I guess he just prefers performing Motown music. I quite like Motown, but when Collins re-works those old classics, it just doesn't work for me at all. They are pale and weak immitations of how that music should be performed and produced.
|
Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
|
|
sigod
Forum Senior Member
Joined: September 17 2004
Location: London
Status: Offline
Points: 2779
|
Posted: October 27 2010 at 09:14 |
Blacksword wrote:
I guess he just prefers performing Motown music. I quite like Motown, but when Collins re-works those old classics, it just doesn't work for me at all. They are pale and weak immitations of how that music should be performed and produced. |
Amen to that sentiment sir. There are very few artists who's covers can actually top the originals (The Tide Is High by Atomic Kitten being the exception to the rule of course )
|
I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision.
- Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill
|
|
Blacksword
Prog Reviewer
Joined: June 22 2004
Location: England
Status: Offline
Points: 16130
|
Posted: October 27 2010 at 13:01 |
sigod wrote:
Blacksword wrote:
I guess he just prefers performing Motown music. I quite like Motown, but when Collins re-works those old classics, it just doesn't work for me at all. They are pale and weak immitations of how that music should be performed and produced. |
Amen to that sentiment sir. There are very few artists who's covers can actually top the originals (The Tide Is High by Atomic Kitten being the exception to the rule of course ) |
Well naturally..
Good to see you on here again Simon. Hope all is well sir.
|
Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
|
|
lazland
Prog Reviewer
Joined: October 28 2008
Location: Wales
Status: Offline
Points: 13768
|
Posted: October 27 2010 at 14:01 |
Oh well, more Phil bashing.
Lest we forget, he was the drummer in one of the all time (some say ALL TIME) greatest prog bands of all time, and was, latterly, the singer and a writer. In other words, an integral part of the band, not a bit part player.
Why the hell wouldn't he be proud of this song and of his band?
|
Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org
Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time!
|
|
Blacksword
Prog Reviewer
Joined: June 22 2004
Location: England
Status: Offline
Points: 16130
|
Posted: October 27 2010 at 14:13 |
^^^ Indeed.
|
Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
|
|
Evolver
Special Collaborator
Crossover & JR/F/Canterbury Teams
Joined: October 22 2005
Location: The Idiocracy
Status: Offline
Points: 5482
|
Posted: October 27 2010 at 14:44 |
lazland wrote:
Oh well, more Phil bashing.
Lest we forget, he was the drummer in one of the all time (some say ALL TIME) greatest prog bands of all time, and was, latterly, the singer and a writer. In other words, an integral part of the band, not a bit part player.
Why the hell wouldn't he be proud of this song and of his band?
|
Phil
[On bands copying Genesis]:" I wouldn`t wish it upon anybody to try and be successful in this day and age being a parody of a band nobody likes anyway."
|
Trust me. I know what I'm doing.
|
|
lazland
Prog Reviewer
Joined: October 28 2008
Location: Wales
Status: Offline
Points: 13768
|
Posted: October 27 2010 at 14:48 |
Evolver wrote:
lazland wrote:
Oh well, more Phil bashing.
Lest we forget, he was the drummer in one of the all time (some say ALL TIME) greatest prog bands of all time, and was, latterly, the singer and a writer. In other words, an integral part of the band, not a bit part player.
Why the hell wouldn't he be proud of this song and of his band?
|
Phil
[On bands copying Genesis]:" I wouldn`t wish it upon anybody to try and be successful in this day and age being a parody of a band nobody likes anyway." |
He's right, in the context of the modern music media, surely? These days, you need to be a bunch of goons paradying a pile of crap on Simon Cowell's shows, mumble obscenities into a mic, or pretend you're hard and indy in order to get any publicity or mass record sales. You wouldn't get that by copying Genesis, I'm afraid. That's why a lot of modern prog is called "cult" by the media. Thus, this was a comment on the media, not his band. Give the guy a break, eh?
|
Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org
Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time!
|
|
Donate monthly and keep PA fast-loading and ad-free forever.