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Posted: October 07 2010 at 10:11
I can't find it. Could someone link it not that I really think that I want to hear this mutilation.After hearing it I will have Thraak on standby in order to recover from the ordeal.
Edited by Vibrationbaby - October 07 2010 at 10:16
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Posted: October 07 2010 at 15:07
ShipOfFools wrote:
Textbook wrote:
SOF: What the hell is that supposed to mean? What are you saying about Kanye West fans?
Just that Kayne West fans probably don't have an extended knowledge of all different genres of music, like prog rock fans do. And admit it, anyone who listens to Kayne West has some sh*tty taste in music.
Opinion, and I actually enjoy some of his music. So I guess I have sh*tty taste in music then?
If you want a good rap artist, look up Missy Elliot or Nas. Or Tupac. Don't look to Kayne, because he's nothing but a fad. If Autotune didn't exist, he wouldn't even be able to perform live.
Opinion.
Guys really need to get over this "hip-hop fans/artists are sub-human" mentality you have. Don't tell me you don't have it, it oozes out of you when you write about it.
For instance, some guy in another thread was shocked that Kanye even knew of King Crimson which just betrays a complete lack of understanding of what being a samples based producer entails. Samples based hip-hop producers necessarily dig in the crates and listen to a bewildering variety of obscure and old music, precisely to hunt down those samples. Anyone who's serious about doing it professionally almost certainly has a more eclectic record collection and probably more knowledge than you.
I don't have a 'hip hop fans/artists are sub-human' thing going on. I listen to some artists in that genre, and I like what I hear.
But the issue is that Kayne West is NOT a good hip hop artist. Sure, he's popular, but for what? Singing a song about being an a****le? Getting on the cover of Rolling Stone, with a crown of thorns around his head like Jesus Christ?
You make it sound like he should be reviled because he's popular. He's one of the few mainstream rap artists today that still uses samples from older music as liberally as he does. I personally respect that.
It's not the fact that a rap artist sampled King Crimson. It's that Kayne did. I dislike him immensely, and I don't like the idea of him bringing his fans here.
Glad to know only people who you think have qualified enough tastes are allowed to visit this website.
Although I think some prog snobs also have it against some current pop acts. If I admit that I like Christina Aguilera or Katy Perry on this forum (which I am a fan of both of them), I wouldn't be surprised if a bunch of people discounted my opinion.
At the end of the day, it's all music to me. I dislike Kayne, but I suppose his fans are entitled to their tastes in music. All I know is I won't be listening to it.
You're entitled to dislike Kanye. I think he's definitely not someone to look up to as a person, but I respect him as an artist. So I can understand where you're coming from and agree with you in the last 2 statements here.
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Posted: October 07 2010 at 17:01
Oh, OK. Katy Perry filmed a part for Sesame Street, but it was deemed that she was dressed too inappropriately for 3 - 6 year olds so it ended up being cut from the show. The video is on YouTube, so that is what I was linking to, and referring to.
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Posted: October 07 2010 at 17:06
This song is awesome. I like how the sample is actually off a bit, too.
Also, my thread on this subject was first and is probably the least dumb, so not to toot my own horn or anything but I'm f**king awesome.
Also, Endtroducing is a good album but I somehow don't think it can hold its own against a truly great non-sample album. I can't get around the fact that he took other people stuff and mashed it together, no matter how cleverly it was done and how cool the end product is.
Also, that album isn't even rap and barely feels like hip-hop.
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Posted: October 07 2010 at 17:11
rushfan4 wrote:
Oh, OK. Katy Perry filmed a part for Sesame Street, but it was deemed that she was dressed too inappropriately for 3 - 6 year olds so it ended up being cut from the show. The video is on YouTube, so that is what I was linking to, and referring to.
Yes I see the link...can't watch for copyright reasons. Will be the same on Youtube I guess. Will check it out tomorrow. Bedtime.
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Posted: October 07 2010 at 21:03
stonebeard wrote:
This song is awesome. I like how the sample is actually off a bit, too.
Also, my thread on this subject was first and is probably the least dumb, so not to toot my own horn or anything but I'm f**king awesome.
Also, Endtroducing is a good album but I somehow don't think it can hold its own against a truly great non-sample album. I can't get around the fact that he took other people stuff and mashed it together, no matter how cleverly it was done and how cool the end product is.
Also, that album isn't even rap and barely feels like hip-hop.
Well, I already addressed my point about comparing two completely different musical styles. I don't think it's fair to do so, since a Hip-Hop artist isn't going for the same thing a Rock musician is.
And the album is indeed considered Hip-Hop. Experimental, or Instrumental Hip-Hop, perhaps, but still Hip-Hop. The idea was to show himtroy that not all Hip-Hop sounds alike. And you can check out the other records I listed in that post to further see my point. Each of them have their own sound, and talk about different things. Hell, Wyclef Jean even plays live guitar-- pretty damn well, too!
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Posted: October 07 2010 at 22:14
Kanye West is a great talent actually....808 & Heartbreaks a solid album and hey if KC gave him permission to use the song..................GET over it
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Wait till Lady Gaga does Scheherazade.
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Posted: October 08 2010 at 23:41
I just want to say, and I know it's all taste and opinion and blah blah blah, but I think Kanye West is the single most overrated, overhyped, undertalented, worthless waste of studio time & airplay this side of P. Diddy...I hate that guys music...never have I seen a guy get so rich with so little talent.
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Posted: October 09 2010 at 03:27
I gotta say that Kanye West is over-rated and I don't like him as a rapper or singer. But the guy does have some serious chops as a producer. Love the work he did on this Diluted Peoples track:
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