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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 27 2010 at 04:53
then how do you become a reviewer, coz thats what I mainly do on this site
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 27 2010 at 05:07
Originally posted by arcane-beautiful arcane-beautiful wrote:

then how do you become a reviewer, coz thats what I mainly do on this site

I would suggest you improve your reviews. I'm not trying to be mean, but the ones I read were not great. On the other hand the guys whp can promote you may have as different opinion.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 27 2010 at 05:31
Originally posted by arcane-beautiful arcane-beautiful wrote:

then how do you become a reviewer, coz thats what I mainly do on this site


Write reviews people take notice of. I write for www.progressor.net myself, and the reviews I write there are set up in a particular manner you might use as a basis if you'd like to.

1. Presentation. Brief summary of the artist, and a brief description of the album you're reviewing placing it in context (like: "generally regarded as one of their best albums", "is their debut album, and was released in", "is by many seen as one of their weakest releases" etc. Find a suitable context, and place the album in it.

2. Comparisons. What manner of music are we dealing with? Overall style, comparisons to other artists. If it is known that the album deviates from what you would expect from the artist this is a good place to mention that.

3. Description. Describe the music in more detail. Compistional structure, arrangements, particular traits, mix and production if fiting, performance. This part should be made out so that people totally unaware of the band should get a good impression about what it sounds like.

4. Conclusion. Your personal assesment of the album in question. If you find it to be a well made album exploring a style of music you generally don't like this is a good place to outline just that. You rate the album, this is the place where you describe why you have given it.

In general, language should be kept to a high standard. Use tact, and don't write anything you wouldn't have liked to say to them in person. Most of them are artists in the true form of the word, and have invested substantial amounts of time and money in their efforts. And even if the end result is about as appetizing for you as a half-rotted cabbage, treat it with respect. Describe why you have concluded in a certain manner rather than to throw out generalities without a basis in an observation or analysis of sorts.

Using this as a rough guideline should see you write reviews that will be noticed. They don't have to be long either, even if what I've written above here goes on a bit and probably seems rather daunting.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 27 2010 at 07:22
^ You have been very helpful in this thread.Clap
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 27 2010 at 07:39
Olav will pretty soon become the master of progarchives. LOL He is already a member in 4/5 collab teams PLUS this kind of stuff. Geek Cool Smile 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 27 2010 at 08:43
thanx that a great boost of confidence (not!)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 27 2010 at 08:45
Originally posted by arcane-beautiful arcane-beautiful wrote:

thanx that a great boost of confidence (not!)

You know, with that attitude............never mind.Ermm
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 27 2010 at 09:16
Originally posted by arcane-beautiful arcane-beautiful wrote:

thanx that a great boost of confidence (not!)


Well, if you're serious about wanting to become an official reviewer and/or collaborator, feedback will be forthcoming you know. Both titles are earned, and there are demands. In here just like any other area of life, to achieve you must invest and learn. There's no thing as a free lunch you know (and what appears to be free lunches tends to come with some serious strings attached).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 27 2010 at 10:14
I once had a free lunch, that was pretty good, it came with coffee and bread and all kinds of cheese and sausages and stuff.
 
But it didn't come with strings,  so in retrospect I got a bad deal after all.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 27 2010 at 10:15

Arcane-Beautiful.

ProgArchives is not about titles or how to earn them. ProgArchives is all about the joy of music. It is all about breaking down barriers and challenge our perceptions. My musical preferences is very different now than when I arrived here some years ago. 

Forget the titles and all this collab stuff. You are barking up the wrong tree in this thread (although it is pretty entertaining). Go to the different genres instead and explore what ProgArchives have to offer. Check out bands like Magma, Present, Flairck, Jethro Tull, Soft Machine, Manning, Elegant Simplicity, PFM, Osanna and Senmuth........ just to mention the bands from the top of my head. 

Many albums here are free downloads. Download them. Listen to them. Enjoy the music. Review them here. Forget your status as Groupie or Senior Member. Use ProgArchives for all it is worth. 

Btw some of the worst atrocities since world war two in the western world was commited in your town and surrounding area. Some of the bands in ProgArchives nipped over the border from the republic just to play a gig in Newry and/or Warrenpoint and then ran for their lives (literary speaking) back again over the border. That is a chapter of our history I would like to know more about. 

 

 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 27 2010 at 10:19
Originally posted by tuxon tuxon wrote:

I once had a free lunch, that was pretty good, it came with coffee and bread and all kinds of cheese and sausages and stuff.
 
But it didn't come with strings,  so in retrospect I got a bad deal after all.
 
next time i will demand stringsAngry

Tux, you are priceless.LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 27 2010 at 14:04
Originally posted by arcane-beautiful arcane-beautiful wrote:

thanx that a great boost of confidence (not!)
 
Wow....At this point I would give him the "title" he wants and let him sink or swim. Ultimately its up to us, the readers, to criticize/praise the reviews submitted.
 
Now to criticize/praise means I would actually have to read a review by arcane... (not!)
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 27 2010 at 14:35

Well, to give just one bit of personal advise, which you can ignore if you wish, you might want to consider laying off the 5-star rating.  It is supposed to be a very rarely used rating.....Just looking briefly it appears you're using it about 90% of the time. (just a guesstimate)

Good luck!Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 27 2010 at 14:43
Originally posted by toroddfuglesteg toroddfuglesteg wrote:

Arcane-Beautiful.

ProgArchives is not about titles or how to earn them. ProgArchives is all about the joy of music. It is all about breaking down barriers and challenge our perceptions. My musical preferences is very different now than when I arrived here some years ago. 

Forget the titles and all this collab stuff. You are barking up the wrong tree in this thread (although it is pretty entertaining). Go to the different genres instead and explore what ProgArchives have to offer. Check out bands like Magma, Present, Flairck, Jethro Tull, Soft Machine, Manning, Elegant Simplicity, PFM, Osanna and Senmuth........ just to mention the bands from the top of my head. 

Many albums here are free downloads. Download them. Listen to them. Enjoy the music. Review them here. Forget your status as Groupie or Senior Member. Use ProgArchives for all it is worth. 

Btw some of the worst atrocities since world war two in the western world was commited in your town and surrounding area. Some of the bands in ProgArchives nipped over the border from the republic just to play a gig in Newry and/or Warrenpoint and then ran for their lives (literary speaking) back again over the border. That is a chapter of our history I would like to know more about. 

 

 



Wise wordsClapClap That is precisely the joy of this site, the fact that a middle aged bloke like me can still experience the joy of new bands and new music. This site has provided me with a multitude of both, and as a result, my knowledge of the genre has grown considerably.

Now, where are those four stars?Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 27 2010 at 14:53
Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Originally posted by toroddfuglesteg toroddfuglesteg wrote:

Arcane-Beautiful.

ProgArchives is not about titles or how to earn them. ProgArchives is all about the joy of music. It is all about breaking down barriers and challenge our perceptions. My musical preferences is very different now than when I arrived here some years ago. 

Forget the titles and all this collab stuff. You are barking up the wrong tree in this thread (although it is pretty entertaining). Go to the different genres instead and explore what ProgArchives have to offer. Check out bands like Magma, Present, Flairck, Jethro Tull, Soft Machine, Manning, Elegant Simplicity, PFM, Osanna and Senmuth........ just to mention the bands from the top of my head. 

Many albums here are free downloads. Download them. Listen to them. Enjoy the music. Review them here. Forget your status as Groupie or Senior Member. Use ProgArchives for all it is worth. 

Btw some of the worst atrocities since world war two in the western world was commited in your town and surrounding area. Some of the bands in ProgArchives nipped over the border from the republic just to play a gig in Newry and/or Warrenpoint and then ran for their lives (literary speaking) back again over the border. That is a chapter of our history I would like to know more about. 

 

 



Wise wordsClapClap That is precisely the joy of this site, the fact that a middle aged bloke like me can still experience the joy of new bands and new music. This site has provided me with a multitude of both, and as a result, my knowledge of the genre has grown considerably.

Now, where are those four stars?Wink
Me too....I'm a middle aged wetback....this site has made my collection grow and I appreciate the new bands I have discovered.
 
And yes...4 Star are better than 5 Star albums...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 27 2010 at 19:38
you insensitive bostords. A guy walks into a bar, than the guy has a percussion, that doesn't make him a drummer. still the effort put in should weigh for something.
 
this is silly and uncalled for, please behave, and if people want to be colaborating don't discourage them, let them collaborate with what they have to offer,
no need t give them titles, just make sure they understand that their input is meaningfull and appreciated at the least.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 27 2010 at 20:22
Most everyone who posted was trying to help, Tux.  Especially Olav. 

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I know I know I know. (little Supertramp quote thrown in for good measure)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 28 2010 at 05:16
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Well, to give just one bit of personal advise, which you can ignore if you wish, you might want to consider laying off the 5-star rating.  It is supposed to be a very rarely used rating.....Just looking briefly it appears you're using it about 90% of the time. (just a guesstimate)

Good luck!Smile
 
This ought to be so, but I can imagine that this rating is used more often than it was intended to be, just because most reviewers have more of their favourite albums in their collections. If I will have the time to write more reviews and I would choose to review Close to the Edge, Wish You Were Here, Foxtrot, Köhntarkosz, Part the Second, Danger Money and Playing the Fool first, I would have a vast majority of 5-star ratings in my list and draw the attention of some watchful collabs. I will be worried more when a lot of 1-star ratings appear in someone's review list.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 28 2010 at 05:40
Originally posted by someone_else someone_else wrote:

Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Well, to give just one bit of personal advise, which you can ignore if you wish, you might want to consider laying off the 5-star rating.  It is supposed to be a very rarely used rating.....Just looking briefly it appears you're using it about 90% of the time. (just a guesstimate)

Good luck!Smile
 
This ought to be so, but I can imagine that this rating is used more often than it was intended to be, just because most reviewers have more of their favourite albums in their collections. If I will have the time to write more reviews and I would choose to review Close to the Edge, Wish You Were Here, Foxtrot, Köhntarkosz, Part the Second, Danger Money and Playing the Fool first, I would have a vast majority of 5-star ratings in my list and draw the attention of some watchful collabs. I will be worried more when a lot of 1-star ratings appear in someone's review list.
If you get paid to do a job then you would review most often than not across the entire prog spectrum and the ratings would be much more varied. If you are not paid to do something and review because of your passion for the music then expect more 5 or 4 star ratings, because you are doing what youy enjoy and therefore not in it for the moneySmile
 
Just my take on it. Fanboyism will pushout the 5 star ratings after 30-50 reviews and after that fizzle out or struggle to make a 100 words reviews that merit 2 stars becuase where is the motivation. I am not referring to reviewers who have pushed well above a 100 reviews but even then there will be exceptions.
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