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Joined: August 18 2008
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Posted: September 07 2010 at 18:56
James wrote:
NecronCommander wrote:
harmonium.ro wrote:
Henry Plainview wrote:
James thinks Jean Louis is more brutal than most metal because of the avant-ness. I don't remember much of Jean Louis but I would tend to agree, free jazz is a lot more hardcore than almost all metal.
Agreed with James and Henry on this, free/avant jazz is the most extreme music I've heard yet.
Well, yeah, it's ridiculously crazy sh*t, far more extreme than a lot of extreme metal, but I don't think it's fair to compare those principles on the same level.
Have you heard Jean Louis?
They sound metal at times and yet are heavier as well. Metal is a dead genre.
Don't you find ZU and the new Combat Astronomy heavier?
Joined: September 17 2009
Location: Madison, WI
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Posted: September 07 2010 at 18:56
James wrote:
NecronCommander wrote:
harmonium.ro wrote:
Henry Plainview wrote:
James thinks Jean Louis is more brutal than most metal because of the avant-ness. I don't remember much of Jean Louis but I would tend to agree, free jazz is a lot more hardcore than almost all metal.
Agreed with James and Henry on this, free/avant jazz is the most extreme music I've heard yet.
Well, yeah, it's ridiculously crazy sh*t, far more extreme than a lot of extreme metal, but I don't think it's fair to compare those principles on the same level.
Have you heard Jean Louis?
They sound metal at times and yet are heavier as well. Metal is a dead genre.
Not on PA it isn't.
Well I'll deff check out Jean Louis now. I'm intrigued.
Joined: July 04 2005
Location: Malaria
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Posted: September 07 2010 at 18:57
NecronCommander wrote:
James wrote:
NecronCommander wrote:
Henry Plainview wrote:
James thinks Jean Louis is more brutal than most metal because of the avant-ness. I don't remember much of Jean Louis but I would tend to agree, free jazz is a lot more hardcore than almost all metal.
It's some crazy sh*t but you can't compare it to metal, srsly.
Yes I can.
Much like Guapo's Black Oni is also more brutal than most metal as well.
I'll take Black Oni and Jean Louis over terrible metal bands any day of the week. Most metal bands just don't do heaviness any more.
I beg to differ, but whatever. Metal heaviness and avant heaviness are two different things. The former is a wall of low-tuned, fast riffs, and the other is sonic density.
Jean Louis isn't just sonic density. Black Metal isn't fast riffs.
Joined: July 04 2005
Location: Malaria
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Posted: September 07 2010 at 18:59
harmonium.ro wrote:
James wrote:
NecronCommander wrote:
harmonium.ro wrote:
Henry Plainview wrote:
James thinks Jean Louis is more brutal than most metal because of the avant-ness. I don't remember much of Jean Louis but I would tend to agree, free jazz is a lot more hardcore than almost all metal.
Agreed with James and Henry on this, free/avant jazz is the most extreme music I've heard yet.
Well, yeah, it's ridiculously crazy sh*t, far more extreme than a lot of extreme metal, but I don't think it's fair to compare those principles on the same level.
Have you heard Jean Louis?
They sound metal at times and yet are heavier as well. Metal is a dead genre.
Don't you find ZU and the new Combat Astronomy heavier?
I forgot about Zu.
Zu are more sonically dense than what Jean Louis play though. They are more akin to Shining but do have elements of the Jean Louis sound as well.
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