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JJLehto 
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Kevin really hates metal.
If there's so much as an electric guitar he shuts if off.
Hes a helluva troll
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NecronCommander
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Posted: September 07 2010 at 18:47 |
 James wrote:
NecronCommander wrote:
Henry Plainview wrote:
James thinks Jean Louis is more brutal than most metal because of the avant-ness. I don't remember much of Jean Louis but I would tend to agree, free jazz is a lot more hardcore than almost all metal.
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It's some crazy sh*t but you can't compare it to metal, srsly. |
Yes I can.
Much like Guapo's Black Oni is also more brutal than most metal as well.
I'll take Black Oni and Jean Louis over terrible metal bands any day of the week. Most metal bands just don't do heaviness any more.
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I beg to differ, but whatever. Metal heaviness and avant heaviness are two different things. The former is a wall of low-tuned, fast riffs, and the other is sonic density.
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horsewithteeth11
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Posted: September 07 2010 at 18:47 |
JJLehto wrote:
Kevin really hates metal.
If there's so much as an electric guitar he shuts if off.
Hes a helluva troll
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I loled Don't forget he hates Les Claypool too. 
Edited by horsewithteeth11 - September 07 2010 at 18:47
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NecronCommander
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Posted: September 07 2010 at 18:47 |
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Well actually, most metal bands aren't on this site, so I will agree with you on those bands.
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: September 07 2010 at 18:47 |
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The Monodrone
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Posted: September 07 2010 at 18:49 |
James wrote:
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James, what's your last.fm?
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I already put in an add request for you a few days ago.
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What's your username?
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: September 07 2010 at 18:49 |
Henry Plainview wrote:
James thinks Jean Louis is more brutal than most metal because of the avant-ness. I don't remember much of Jean Louis but I would tend to agree, free jazz is a lot more hardcore than almost all metal.
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Agreed with James and Henry on this, free/avant jazz is the most extreme music I've heard yet.
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: September 07 2010 at 18:49 |
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I never say anything like that. Most of the time I'm joking anyway.
You were actually serious.
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JJLehto
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Posted: September 07 2010 at 18:49 |
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NecronCommander
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Posted: September 07 2010 at 18:50 |
harmonium.ro wrote:
Henry Plainview wrote:
James thinks Jean Louis is more brutal than most metal because of the avant-ness. I don't remember much of Jean Louis but I would tend to agree, free jazz is a lot more hardcore than almost all metal.
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Agreed with James and Henry on this, free/avant jazz is the most extreme music I've heard yet.
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Well, yeah, it's ridiculously crazy sh*t, far more extreme than a lot of extreme metal, but I don't think it's fair to compare those principles on the same level.
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: September 07 2010 at 18:51 |
James wrote:
I never say anything like that. Most of the time I'm joking anyway.
You were actually serious.
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Nah, I love some chamber rock too. And I think I AM the only guy in this Shred to have seen the mighty UZ 
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horsewithteeth11
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Posted: September 07 2010 at 18:52 |
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JJLehto
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Posted: September 07 2010 at 18:52 |
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I still have not heard anything from Univers Zero
I keep meaning to get around to it, I do
But then all of my laziness
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: September 07 2010 at 18:53 |
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JJLehto
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Posted: September 07 2010 at 18:53 |
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: September 07 2010 at 18:53 |
NecronCommander wrote:
harmonium.ro wrote:
Henry Plainview wrote:
James thinks Jean Louis is more brutal than most metal because of the avant-ness. I don't remember much of Jean Louis but I would tend to agree, free jazz is a lot more hardcore than almost all metal.
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Agreed with James and Henry on this, free/avant jazz is the most extreme music I've heard yet.
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Well, yeah, it's ridiculously crazy sh*t, far more extreme than a lot of extreme metal, but I don't think it's fair to compare those principles on the same level. |
I didn't compare them stilystically (is this spelt right? for some reason my spell check isn't working any more), I compared them on the sole basis of how extreme is the experience they provide. Of course Jon may pop in right now and say smooth jazz is much more extreme than the most extreme metal or avant-jazz  , but that's outside the point.
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: September 07 2010 at 18:54 |
NecronCommander wrote:
harmonium.ro wrote:
Henry Plainview wrote:
James thinks Jean Louis is more brutal than most metal because of the avant-ness. I don't remember much of Jean Louis but I would tend to agree, free jazz is a lot more hardcore than almost all metal.
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Agreed with James and Henry on this, free/avant jazz is the most extreme music I've heard yet.
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Well, yeah, it's ridiculously crazy sh*t, far more extreme than a lot of extreme metal, but I don't think it's fair to compare those principles on the same level. |
Have you heard Jean Louis? They sound metal at times and yet are heavier as well. Metal is a dead genre.
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Henry Plainview
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Posted: September 07 2010 at 18:54 |
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But there's also noise!
Ah yes I remember Woodcuts now, I haven't heard it yet because Peter releases too many f**king albums.
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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: September 07 2010 at 18:55 |
@JJ: LOLWUT? 
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NecronCommander
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