Is Prog-Related even still being used?

Five well informed, mostly experienced Xover member votes for Tori Amos:  unaninmously voting for Xover addition. Due to a potential controversial addition all five votes are required. Not one suggested P/R. So your opinions say our opinions are wrong....sweet we respect that but it won't change anything. Take up Kate Bush with the Admin team Hugues. If you wanted her in Xover we would be honoured to have her only becuase her music can sit comfortably in this genre.

Chris S wrote: Five well informed, mostly experienced Xover member votes for Tori Amos:  unaninmously voting for Xover addition. Due to a potential controversial addition all five votes are required. Not one suggested P/R. So your opinions say our opinions are wrong....sweet we respect that but it won't change anything. Take up Kate Bush with the Admin team Hugues. If you wanted her in Xover we would be honoured to have her only becuase her music can sit comfortably in this genre.   Putting a Corporate Hat on and credibility to the JR/F team for wanting SD, they should have been there initially but it was not to be and Xover if I remember correctly was the next sensible sub genre. in case noone noticed these genre domains do overlap from time to time.   Just look at Huey Lewis and the News recently added to Prog Folk, noone complained.....     Just kiddinghe was added to prog electronic   Good night, over and out.

^^ Maybe she will, but you saw what John Easy Money posted. There is update of definitions needed.  

So if she will moved as well, it's up to this.

Or what said Brian Slarti, that's true as well..

Edited by Marty McFly - August 20 2010 at 06:22

I'll know who to contact next time it's suggested that Deep Purple is moved to heavy because Atomic Rooster is there then. Consistency the main issue, I'll take notice of that :-)

"Well, I owned two [Kate Bush albums], which are of course "Hounds of Love" and the one after, "The Sensual World". I really love those two. Someone gave me "The Red Shoes", but then someone else stole it. People come to my beach house in Miami and some things go and some things arrive. Where did that ceramic squirrel come from?"
-- Tori; Attitude Magazine, Sept 2001

"Well, when I was about seventeen, I was playing clubs and people would come up to me and say, 'You sound like Kate Bush.' And at the time: seventeen, that was ... thirteen years ago, and I would say, 'I don't, I don't know that, but I've heard of her.' So eventually, of course, I got her record, and I didn't really think I sounded like her. But maybe there're moments--there're moments -- who knows what my great-great-great-great-grandfather was doing back there, you don't know where the genes go. I, I do admit that there are moments of 'God, that's uncanny.' I mean, I guess if somebody was going to do, like, you know, 'Is it live or is it Memorex?', we could probably do each other and nobody would know, unless you really have a good ear. But, um, she smokes a little more weed than I do, so I'd have to catch up. Just a little more.
-- Tori; CFNY Radio Toronto, Oct 12, 1995

I: Many critics have compared you to Kate Bush.
T: Yes, but I think that has nothing to do with my songs, just my voice. They hear these high sounds (sings) and immediately think of Kate Bush.
I: But your song concepts are completely different.
T: Yes, she works with other structures. But her songs are very original, and that's what matters.
-- Tori; Keyboards Magazine (German), Jun 1992

and Kate Bushs biggest influence is Elton John, just for the facts of bring in the influence, the most suprrising things might come to the light.

Windhawk wrote: If Kate Bush were to be given an evaluation I probably would have voted for a move to Crossover. But due her artistic merits, and not because she sounds like this or that artist, or that we already have an artist sounding just about like her in our turf from before. Songs, compositions and arrangements is what matters, not what artists other than the one evaluated sounds like.

Easy Money wrote: Slartibartfast wrote: Yeah, some of us, myself included, are big tenters, others are only comfortable with prog being narrowly defined.  And as I have stated before, Prog Related is so narrowly defined now that a lot of the artists already there wouldn't qualify if they weren't already there.  I don't see where you have to be musically influential to prog to be related to prog.  Crossover has taken in some artists that might be a better in other categories, but worthy all the same. Slarti, read my post at the top, we are fixing the PR definition, its almost ready, everyone will be happy, there will be a big party at my house (um ..apartment) you are invited!

I did actually.   Just reiterating my position on the issue.

Er, what is crossover prog in the first place?  It's not even a defined style, like symph, zeuhl, krautrock, canterbury, jr/f.  It would be far simpler to have one umbrella category of PR and put them all in that basket because, as with Tori Amos, they don't seem to belong to a defined sub genre and often don't seem to be full blown prog either (again, none of the Tori albums I have heard are).  And I don't see why there should be any pejorative connotations to the word prog-related but the presence of Metallica and Iron Maiden in that sub genre perhaps brings its 'esteem' down.  But they should by all rights be in progressive metal anyway, being that they were more progressive than quite a few bands already in the PM sub genre and made their classic albums several years before "prog metal as we know it" came into being.