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    Posted: August 08 2010 at 15:01
Okay, so yet another 'list your favorite composers' topic was recently made, so I thought I would try something that (I think!) is a bit different.

Come on. Most of us enjoy Classical music to some degree, but there has to be someone who writes 'art music' who you personally don't care much for. Talk about them here, perhaps? 

For me, one name immediately comes to mind: Johann Strauss II. Seriously. His music really irritates me. I don't understand why pieces such as The Blue Danube and Tales from the Vienna Woods are so popular and successful. I realize he focuses on 'light music' mainly, but I enjoy waltzes and the like. But I honestly can't take Strauss. In fact, I always have to mute that part of A Space Odyssey, it grates so much on my nerves.

So, anybody else who bothers you as much as good ol' Strauss does me? 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2010 at 16:14
I have to agree with you on Strauss. Can't stand his music either Wink

Verdi is another composer that I can't stand and his music irritates me almost as much as Strauss'.

I've also never really liked Mozart's works (with some exceptions). The man had an absolutely huge amount of talent, which is certainly evident in his compositions, yet his music lacks depth. I'm convinced that he could have composed much more interesting and emotional works if he wouldn't have been so dependent on wealthy patrons, who often demanded accessible and/or dancable compositions.

And Wagner lastly, is just too bombastic for my tastes. I admire him for his musical innovations (not his personality Wink), but nothing more than that.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2010 at 16:32
Well, I really enjoy Mozart a lot. However, I'm not sure if he's the complete genius everyone cracks him up to be. He's damn good, but I think Beethoven was better. Wink

As for the other guys, I haven't listened to them, I don't believe. But if you and I see eye-to-eye on Strauss, then I'd be afraid to even try them out. LOL

Thanks for taking the time to post in my thread. I appreciate it. Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2010 at 16:46
I don't hate any.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2010 at 19:05
I can't say I hate any either.  More a matter of indifference.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2010 at 19:43
I pretty much love them all (Johann Strauss to a lower degree though...). Baroque, romantics, nationalists, classics, serialists, etc, etc... I hate many many many prog rock and metal bands and musicians though. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2010 at 19:59
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yes, indeed, there are far more mediocre artists in popular music (including prog rock).
Classical music is rarely disappointing (well, maybe with the exception of serial and electro-acoustic experimentations, but I am not an expert in this field so I shouldn't judge without a deeper knowledge).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2010 at 20:03
Originally posted by JLocke JLocke wrote:

Well, I really enjoy Mozart a lot. However, I'm not sure if he's the complete genius everyone cracks him up to be. He's damn good, but I think Beethoven was better. Wink


I am not fond of his divertimenti, but I enjoy pretty much everything else I was exposed to.
Beethoven is more of a pre-romantic so not very comparable to the classicism of Mozart.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2010 at 20:18
 I used to dislike Telemann because I found his stuff to be common, but the more I heard the more I appreciated it.. these guys had to make a living and if they could do that and also compose on their own, they did




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2010 at 20:22
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

I can't say I hate any either.  More a matter of indifference.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2010 at 00:39
Originally posted by lucas lucas wrote:

Originally posted by JLocke JLocke wrote:

Well, I really enjoy Mozart a lot. However, I'm not sure if he's the complete genius everyone cracks him up to be. He's damn good, but I think Beethoven was better. Wink


I am not fond of his divertimenti, but I enjoy pretty much everything else I was exposed to.
Beethoven is more of a pre-romantic so not very comparable to the classicism of Mozart.

Well, granted. But I wasn't really trying to compare them, I was just saying which guy's music I personally like listening to more. Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2010 at 01:20
I hate Vivaldi. Seriously, what a hack. Speaking of hacks, Puccini is nothing more than a populits writing lame music. I'm also not too fond of Brahms.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2010 at 01:24
Originally posted by JLocke JLocke wrote:

What's your novel about, llama?


Tongue no need to be snarky.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2010 at 01:25
Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Originally posted by JLocke JLocke wrote:

What's your novel about, llama?


Tongue no need to be snarky.

LOL I deleted that post after all, as you can see. Embarrassed
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2010 at 01:27
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

I can't say I hate any either.  More a matter of indifference.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2010 at 04:51
Hate would be saying too much, but I don't care much about Anton Bruckner. His music is going nowhere, in my opinion.
And Richard Wagner I only listen to once a year, during the Bayreuth festival, but then I really listen to him - the whole Ring and whatever else is broadcast on the radio (WDR 3 fortunately broadcasts a lot of the festival). But listening to all 16 hours of the Ring is like eating a fat goose - you can''t eat anything else after that for a while, so for the rest of the year I usually abstain from Wagner and only get the  odd snippet of him which is being aired on WDR 3 in their "Klassik Forum" or perhaps a live broadcast from the Metropolitan opera ((there is one about every three month, and sometimes they do a Wagner opera).


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2010 at 05:33
Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

I hate Vivaldi. Seriously, what a hack. Speaking of hacks, Puccini is nothing more than a populist writing lame music.


Nothing like objective criticism is there?

How about backing up statements like 'Vivaldi is a hack' and 'Puccini is nothing more than a populist writing lame music' then?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2010 at 05:40
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

I hate Vivaldi. Seriously, what a hack. Speaking of hacks, Puccini is nothing more than a populist writing lame music.


Nothing like objective criticism is there?

How about backing up statements like 'Vivaldi is a hack' and 'Puccini is nothing more than a populist writing lame music' then?

Come on Jim! You know the forum better than that!Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2010 at 06:00
D'oh!

I believe the expression is "my bad..." ?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2010 at 06:55
As regards romanticism, I donīt like Richard Wagner. His music is too bombastic, spectacular and, they say, anti-Semitic. Therefore heīs prohibited in Israel music halls.
 
Gustav Mahler or Antonio Vivaldi  e.g. arenīt my cup of tea too. But this is only a peak of glacier, spectrum of classical music is very, very wide...
 
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