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JLocke
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Topic: Classical composers you hate. Posted: August 08 2010 at 15:01 |
Okay, so yet another 'list your favorite composers' topic was recently made, so I thought I would try something that (I think!) is a bit different.
Come on. Most of us enjoy Classical music to some degree, but there has to be someone who writes 'art music' who you personally don't care much for. Talk about them here, perhaps?
For me, one name immediately comes to mind: Johann Strauss II. Seriously. His music really irritates me. I don't understand why pieces such as The Blue Danube and Tales from the Vienna Woods are so popular and successful. I realize he focuses on 'light music' mainly, but I enjoy waltzes and the like. But I honestly can't take Strauss. In fact, I always have to mute that part of A Space Odyssey, it grates so much on my nerves.
So, anybody else who bothers you as much as good ol' Strauss does me?
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Posted: August 08 2010 at 16:14 |
I have to agree with you on Strauss. Can't stand his music either Verdi is another composer that I can't stand and his music irritates me almost as much as Strauss'. I've also never really liked Mozart's works (with some exceptions). The man had an absolutely huge amount of talent, which is certainly evident in his compositions, yet his music lacks depth. I'm convinced that he could have composed much more interesting and emotional works if he wouldn't have been so dependent on wealthy patrons, who often demanded accessible and/or dancable compositions. And Wagner lastly, is just too bombastic for my tastes. I admire him for his musical innovations (not his personality ), but nothing more than that.
Edited by Zebedee - August 08 2010 at 16:21
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JLocke
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Posted: August 08 2010 at 16:32 |
Well, I really enjoy Mozart a lot. However, I'm not sure if he's the complete genius everyone cracks him up to be. He's damn good, but I think Beethoven was better.
As for the other guys, I haven't listened to them, I don't believe. But if you and I see eye-to-eye on Strauss, then I'd be afraid to even try them out.
Thanks for taking the time to post in my thread. I appreciate it.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: August 08 2010 at 16:46 |
I don't hate any.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: August 08 2010 at 19:05 |
I can't say I hate any either. More a matter of indifference.
Edited by Slartibartfast - August 09 2010 at 18:11
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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The T
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Posted: August 08 2010 at 19:43 |
I pretty much love them all (Johann Strauss to a lower degree though...). Baroque, romantics, nationalists, classics, serialists, etc, etc... I hate many many many prog rock and metal bands and musicians though.
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lucas
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Posted: August 08 2010 at 19:59 |
^ yes, indeed, there are far more mediocre artists in popular music (including prog rock). Classical music is rarely disappointing (well, maybe with the exception of serial and electro-acoustic experimentations, but I am not an expert in this field so I shouldn't judge without a deeper knowledge).
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lucas
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Posted: August 08 2010 at 20:03 |
JLocke wrote:
Well, I really enjoy Mozart a lot. However, I'm not sure if he's the complete genius everyone cracks him up to be. He's damn good, but I think Beethoven was better. |
I am not fond of his divertimenti, but I enjoy pretty much everything else I was exposed to. Beethoven is more of a pre-romantic so not very comparable to the classicism of Mozart.
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Posted: August 08 2010 at 20:18 |
I used to dislike Telemann because I found his stuff to be common, but the more I heard the more I appreciated it.. these guys had to make a living and if they could do that and also compose on their own, they did
Edited by Atavachron - August 08 2010 at 20:19
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JJLehto
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Posted: August 08 2010 at 20:22 |
Slartibartfast wrote:
I can't say I hate any either. More a matter of indifference.
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JLocke
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thellama73
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Posted: August 09 2010 at 01:20 |
I hate Vivaldi. Seriously, what a hack. Speaking of hacks, Puccini is nothing more than a populits writing lame music. I'm also not too fond of Brahms.
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thellama73
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Posted: August 09 2010 at 01:24 |
JLocke wrote:
What's your novel about, llama? |
no need to be snarky.
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JLocke
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Posted: August 09 2010 at 01:25 |
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Posted: August 09 2010 at 01:27 |
JJLehto wrote:
Slartibartfast wrote:
I can't say I hate any either. More a matter of indifference.
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BaldFriede
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Posted: August 09 2010 at 04:51 |
Hate would be saying too much, but I don't care much about Anton Bruckner. His music is going nowhere, in my opinion. And Richard Wagner I only listen to once a year, during the Bayreuth festival, but then I really listen to him - the whole Ring and whatever else is broadcast on the radio (WDR 3 fortunately broadcasts a lot of the festival). But listening to all 16 hours of the Ring is like eating a fat goose - you can''t eat anything else after that for a while, so for the rest of the year I usually abstain from Wagner and only get the odd snippet of him which is being aired on WDR 3 in their "Klassik Forum" or perhaps a live broadcast from the Metropolitan opera ((there is one about every three month, and sometimes they do a Wagner opera).
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Posted: August 09 2010 at 05:33 |
thellama73 wrote:
I hate Vivaldi. Seriously, what a hack. Speaking of hacks, Puccini is nothing more than a populist writing lame music. |
Nothing like objective criticism is there?
How about backing up statements like 'Vivaldi is a hack' and 'Puccini is nothing more than a populist writing lame music' then?
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Snow Dog
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Jim Garten
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Posted: August 09 2010 at 06:00 |
D'oh!
I believe the expression is "my bad..." ?
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Gandalff
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Posted: August 09 2010 at 06:55 |
As regards romanticism, I donīt like Richard Wagner. His music is too bombastic, spectacular and, they say, anti-Semitic. Therefore heīs prohibited in Israel music halls.
Gustav Mahler or Antonio Vivaldi e.g. arenīt my cup of tea too. But this is only a peak of glacier, spectrum of classical music is very, very wide...
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