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Points: 4489 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 18 2010 at 19:04
The Incident seems like a bit of post-metal, in my opinion.  It's got a very unique sound to it, and one that resonates as one of PT's most original. 
 
It's funny, in the newest Classic Rock Presents Prog issue (ELP cover) a reader wrote in that he believes Porcupine Tree aren't a very original band; Wacko I really don't know where people come up with this idea.  The first time I heard PT, I thought, "Wow, this is one of the most unique bands I have ever heard." And they still are.
 
Sure, 'Dogs' and 'Time Flies' are similar, but it's all in a different key and time signature anyways... if anything, it's an homage to Floyd.
    
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Originally posted by ptkc123 ptkc123 wrote:

The Incident seems like a bit of post-metal, in my opinion.  It's got a very unique sound to it, and one that resonates as one of PT's most original. 
 
It's funny, in the newest Classic Rock Presents Prog issue (ELP cover) a reader wrote in that he believes Porcupine Tree aren't a very original band; Wacko I really don't know where people come up with this idea.  The first time I heard PT, I thought, "Wow, this is one of the most unique bands I have ever heard." And they still are.
 
Sure, 'Dogs' and 'Time Flies' are similar, but it's all in a different key and time signature anyways... if anything, it's an homage to Floyd.

Shocked Wha? I don't see how someone can say this. PT struck me as one of the most original bands i've heard, too. I hadn't heard songwriting and Britpop esque melody mixed with sudden bursts of heaviness before. I wonder if people are listening to the same band as I am. When I heard songs like Blackest Eyes for the first time, I was mesmerised. That ultra heavy riff at the beginning, which leads into the nice, melodic verses and chorus. PT hardly do conventional songwriting, and are very original.

The Incident is also an album where I wonder if i'm listening to the same disc as others or not. I hear nothing less than the best album of 2009. I think its a culmination of everything PT have done before (psych, pop, prog metal) with a hint of something new there, something that is to come (industrial electronica, on tracks like 'The Incident' and others). I think the Incident may be the beginnings of PT mk 4. They've dwelled on the heavy period longer than their others now. 

Dogs and Time Flies do sound similar, but I think its a deliberate Floyd homage. The middle section sounds like Floyd's Time to me.
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Points: 4489 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 18 2010 at 20:11
^ I agree that PT has been in this "heavy" phase for longer than I had expected them to.  As long as they continue to make some of the best music my ears have ever had the pleasure of hearing, I don't care what they sound like. Cool
 
...But yes, I do feel like a change is coming soon... what shall it be like? I wonder...
    
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^Well, the first PT era (OTSOL up to Signify) lasted four albums. And so has the heavy era so far. I feel it is probably time for them to try another style. I agree with you, though. As long as they continue to make amazing music, I don't mind what style it's in. 

The Incident I think may herald the start of something new. There's a heightened electronica influence, as I mentioned above. I wouldn't mind hearing them go further down the path of 'The Incident' (the song). In fact, stuff like 'Sleep Together', 'What Happens Now?' and 'The Incident' (song), I'd like to hear more of this kind of industrial electronica from PT. 
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^Wha? 
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No wonder people who do yoga are so flexible! LOL

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I just realized how truly ingenious the middle section of 'Time Flies' is.   ... WOW!
    
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Points: 4489 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2010 at 19:13
Originally posted by Kashmir75 Kashmir75 wrote:

^Wha? 
 
Are you referring to a now-deleted post?
    
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A few folk on here seem to dismiss the 2nd cd from The Incident, but to me, - I love Black Dahlia. The guitar solo is sublime, just a great short track to drift away...............
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Originally posted by sgt wilko sgt wilko wrote:

A few folk on here seem to dismiss the 2nd cd from The Incident, but to me, - I love Black Dahlia. The guitar solo is sublime, just a great short track to drift away...............
 
Yeah, that's an overlooked gem. One of my favorites off the album, and probably my favorite off the second disc.
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Originally posted by Tarquin Underspoon Tarquin Underspoon wrote:

Originally posted by sgt wilko sgt wilko wrote:

A few folk on here seem to dismiss the 2nd cd from The Incident, but to me, - I love Black Dahlia. The guitar solo is sublime, just a great short track to drift away...............
 
Yeah, that's an overlooked gem. One of my favorites off the album, and probably my favorite off the second disc.
The first disc of the Incident really overshadows the second for me... I've personally listened to the first disc at least 5 times more than the second... but the Black Dahlia stands as being my favourite.
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I prefer the second cd, easily.
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Points: 4489 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 21 2010 at 17:17
Both are very good, IMO, but the first disc feels so complete and wholesome.  The second has some pretty good songs, with Flicker probably being my favorite.
    
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I don't even see The Incident as a two disc album, I see it as an (exceptional) album with a decent bonus, 4 tracks that could even have been on the same disc with the main material if Steven wasn't an attentive and dedicated producer, who knows that more exquisite fans (like proggers Wink) don't like to have the bonus right next after the album end. However, I do have a problem with this, the fact that Steven charged as for a two disc album, while it was IMO only a one album + bonus. That was not nice.
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Points: 3196 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 21 2010 at 18:54

Disc two of the incident is basically 'Nil Recurring Pt 2' in relation to the actual Incident album.
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Points: 4489 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 21 2010 at 19:50
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

I don't even see The Incident as a two disc album, I see it as an (exceptional) album with a decent bonus, 4 tracks that could even have been on the same disc with the main material if Steven wasn't an attentive and dedicated producer, who knows that more exquisite fans (like proggers Wink) don't like to have the bonus right next after the album end. However, I do have a problem with this, the fact that Steven charged as for a two disc album, while it was IMO only a one album + bonus. That was not nice.
 
Hmmm, that's strange.  All the surrounding stores in my area had the album priced as a single album, not a double.  I got mine at Best Buy for $9.99 on release day.  I took it home, plopped it in the player, and I was very pleased, to say the least. Big smile
    
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Points: 19643 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2010 at 18:33
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7/23/2010

Headphone Dust stock update

New vinyl releases just added to Steven Wilson's Headphone Dust mail order page include the new 2LP vinyl edition of Porcupine Tree's In Absentia, and SW's Cover Versions 5 and 6 on 7 inch. Orders for the Cover Version singles will include a special post card of a reproduction of two pages from SW's personal note book, on which he noted any song it occurred to him might be good to record for the series. As with the released cover versions, the list of these unrecorded songs includes some very interesting and unexpected choices! This postcard is only available with the vinyl editions.

Also still in stock at Headphone Dust, but down to the very last copies, are the limited Cover Versions CD box set, and the Complete I.E.M. 4 CD box set. These will not be repressed.



I'll be passing on the vinyls, fresh out of cash.

Also, here's a great column by SW about compression: http://emusician.com/interviews/in_the_mix/in_the_mix_compression_blues/

Also, my copy of The Incident was around 21 or 22 AUD in stores here... That's the average price for single CD albums here.
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Points: 1029 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2010 at 18:44
^Yeah, I'm drawing the line here, on these vinyl editions (I draw the liiiiine. And I have my pride). I've spent so much on PT and SW this year alone, so I really must not be tempted by these LPs. It's cool they released some of the Cover Version singles on vinyl, though. 

I'm glad I grabbed those IEM and Cover Version boxsets, though. Now they're true collector's items. 
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Let's just hope that we have some time to recover before Blackfield III and the next SW album...
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