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Topic: The official Prog Archives Porcupine Tree Thread!
Posted By: Kashmir75
Subject: The official Prog Archives Porcupine Tree Thread!
Date Posted: May 19 2010 at 04:48
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For some reason or another, the Porcupine Tree thread got deleted by an admin. So I'll start it up again. Progkidjoel reliably informs me that the Anesthetise special edition DVD will ship after the standard one!    I hope the Burning Shed will sort out these issues next time theres a special release. They apparently didn't even have the red and grey editions in the warehouse when we placed the preorders a month ago. ------------- Hello, mirror. So glad to see you, my friend. It's been a while... |
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: May 19 2010 at 04:59
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Yeah, I think it's really unfair that we've been kept so in the dark about whether or not we'll be recieving it now or in 2 weeks; we were told we would receive the Sp. Ed. before the Standard edition shipped, so I don't think it's at all fair to keep all the fans who payed 45 pounds up front in the dark. ------------- 
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Posted By: Kashmir75
Date Posted: May 19 2010 at 05:19
I'm really bummed about this.  Normally, Burning Shed are quite good with their ordering service. I have received stuff from them within the week before. They've kinda dropped the ball with this one, big time. Maybe I ought to buy the standard edition, watch it, and just give it to my brother after the special one ships. ------------- Hello, mirror. So glad to see you, my friend. It's been a while... |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: May 19 2010 at 05:28
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I've already payed enough, I'm definitely not going to buy another copy to make up for their poor service
Still rather annoyed though. Just a tiny bit of communication would be fine, but none at all? Disappointing. -------------
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Posted By: Kashmir75
Date Posted: May 19 2010 at 05:32
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^Yeah, I've bought loads of PT stuff lately. Can't really afford to buy another copy just for the sake of seeing it sooner rather than later. ------------- Hello, mirror. So glad to see you, my friend. It's been a while... |
Posted By: idiotPrayer
Date Posted: May 19 2010 at 11:37
| especially now i'm starting to get nervous, as the normal edition already has hit the local record store, but the one i paid for like a moth ago hasn't even been shipped. |
Posted By: Nightshine
Date Posted: May 19 2010 at 12:41
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Someone please photoshop Steven Wilson's face on top of The Fonz as he goes over the ramp on his jet skis. |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: May 19 2010 at 14:33
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Hi,
I would imagine that the band is touring and busy doing other things for these folks to be able to keep things updated properly ... please give them a chance. I'm positive that it is nothing to be worried about. ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: The Monodrone
Date Posted: May 19 2010 at 16:16
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Wait... so the standard edition is already out in stores? -------------  
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: May 19 2010 at 16:32
No, but some online retailers have posted copies and the preorders from PT's homepage ship out in 4 days, so it's pretty much impossible for the Sp. Ed. to arrive before the standard edition at this rate. Someone from Burning Shed posted this on the Porcupine Tree forum: Hi All I'm sorry about the lack of communication on this but we've been as much in the dark as you! Here's the latest news: Blu-Ray discs are scheduled to arrive here middle of next week. The Special Editions then have to be assembled and shrinkwrapped. We will assemble/wrap the Red versions first and start shipping them while the Grey ones are being assembled/wrapped. 29th/30th/31st of May is a Bank Holiday (public holiday) weekend so we might not be able to start shipping them until the 1st of June (we will start sooner if we can) In the meantime we hope to start shipping the standard editions later this week/early next week (though we are also packing the new Pineapple Thief and Anathema albums at the same time). Thanks for your patience on the Special Editions - I appreciate it is frustrating. If it helps, I've seen one of the finished books and they do look great. Pete Which really sucks, since they did say late may. This Finnish store is already selling it: http://www.recordshopx.com/search/?f=music&q=porcupine+tree - http://www.recordshopx.com/search/?f=music&q=porcupine+tree although I have no idea how fast their international shipping may be. -------------
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ptkc123 wrote:Posted By: Palliams
Date Posted: May 20 2010 at 03:29
| Man this is a little dissapointing, think it's a little OTT to even consider buying the standard addition for the sake of a weeks wait though, it's not like the Special Editions have been lost at sea or something! I am glad I ordered the Red sleeve though. I reckon they'll be shipping them before the Bank Holiday weekend which would be perfect as I have already booked the Friday off work so I will have a long weekend to listen to everything PT! Can't wait for the IEM boxset too especially considering that I have never heard anything from this project. Oh by the way, glad the thread is back up and running. It's great hearing about other peoples PT/SW obsessions!!! |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: May 20 2010 at 03:41
Hey Palliams, welcome to the site and thread! 
Really hope they can get they can get all the Sp. Ed's shipped out before that long weekend, although it's good to finally have some news from them. Also excited for the IEM boxset, I'll have a lot of SW stuff to go through in June. Also, BS is now shipping the deluxe remaster of the long OOP no-man album 'Wild Opera'. That comes with a whole ton of B-sides, packaged in a 2CD digibook with new album art, and the 'Dry Cleaning Ray' EP as a bonus on the second disc. That's currently 11.99GBP + Shipping on no-man's BS page. 
I'll be ordering that one later tonight! -------------
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Posted By: idiotPrayer
Date Posted: May 20 2010 at 06:23
ah..love that store. i always buy my records at the local one (or an other called keltainen jäänsärkijä). funny bunch of guys really. it's really great because you can suggest records and they'll add them to their stock. it's thanks to me they sell the iem boxset and continuum recyclings vol 2. |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: May 20 2010 at 06:42
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Just from their online selection it looks like a fantastic store, the prices look great too. Might order something from them soonish, depending on my funds. -------------
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: May 21 2010 at 19:41
Yup, it appears that some people have received the Standard Edition already:
Found that on the PTF. -------------
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Posted By: The Monodrone
Date Posted: May 21 2010 at 20:05
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-gasp-
IT.LOOKS.SO.BEAUTIFUL.! -------------
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Posted By: Kashmir75
Date Posted: May 22 2010 at 19:52
LOL. I relented. Went into JB Hi Fi the other day, and what should I see on the shelf? The standard edition of Anesthetize, already out?  And only 25 smackers! Without even thinking, I picked it up and bought it! I really am an impatient PT fanboy!  So it looks like I have the standard, and grey editions! Watched it as soon as I got home that evening. Gotta tell you, its fabulous! The sound and picture quality is top notch, the setlist is great. The only shame really is that the standard DVD doesn't have any extra features, just the concert footage. The Signify songs all sound great live. Dark Matter is a particular highlight of the gig. ------------- Hello, mirror. So glad to see you, my friend. It's been a while... |
Posted By: The Monodrone
Date Posted: May 22 2010 at 20:26
That is amazing. I did the same thing with Coheed's Neverender. I'm just glad they didn't put behind the scenes footage in the Sp. Ed., because I bought the reg edition.
I'm glad you got to see it and I can't wait until I do..in a few days hopefully.  -------------
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: May 22 2010 at 21:48
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From BS's Twitter:
Porcupine Tree Anesthetize news: Special Editions will ship from 1/6/10. Standard edition later this week/early next week. Sorry for delays. -------------
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Posted By: Kashmir75
Date Posted: May 22 2010 at 21:51
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^Bah! I suspect the delay is due to the Blu Ray discs not being finished yet. Clearly the packaging and DVDs had been finalised. But still, how hard is it to stick the footage on a Blu Ray? I'm not an expert, but do they have to do a ton of technological jiggery pokery to transfer the footage to high-def? ------------- Hello, mirror. So glad to see you, my friend. It's been a while... |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: May 22 2010 at 22:01
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^The only difference between a Bluray and a DVD is the amount of info it can hold - They both come from the same source material (the original recordings) which is better quality than both DVD's and Blurays, but because Blurays can hold more information, the data that is put on a Bluray has to be compressed significantly less, so the picture/sound and reading speed is much, much faster.
I'm guessing the problem is that Bluray's are at least a bit slower to press than standard DVD's, and also that there's hardly any Bluray pressing facilities compared to the amount of DVD presses because it's still a relatively new format. Not sure why it's taking this long though - I'm guessing the order just got through/the pressing started a few days late, so that the whole thing got out of order. Just a one day difference would add a few days on either end, due to changing shipping and receiving dates, getting new packaging and postage schedules ready, etc... I'm still just a little annoyed that BS didn't have the Special Editions even on hand when we ordered over a month ago... -------------
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: May 23 2010 at 06:11
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Also, about the Insurgentes DVD release:
The DVD version of the Insurgentes film directed by Lasse Hoile is currently scheduled for release on 27th September as a 2 DVD set on KScope, with a whole raft of extras on the second disc, including an audio section with more songs from the album sessions. More news nearer to the release date.... From SWHQ. Can't wait for that one; the excerpts on the Insurgentes album DVD piqued my interest, gonna be good to see the whole thing. -------------
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Posted By: Kashmir75
Date Posted: May 23 2010 at 06:28
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^Excellent! I've been looking forward to the DVD release of this for a long while. The 20 minute trailer on the Insurgentes DVDA piqued my interest to see the rest of it, too. ------------- Hello, mirror. So glad to see you, my friend. It's been a while... |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 23 2010 at 08:32
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Steven Wilson's has colaborated with Aussie Drum & Bass/Rockers Pendulum on one track of their new album (released tomorrow):
this is the official trailer - full versions exist on youtube, but they are "unofficial" so I won't link them here.
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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: May 23 2010 at 08:55
I got a message that mine (standard ed) is in the mail. YEAH!! 
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Posted By: The Monodrone
Date Posted: May 23 2010 at 09:58
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Should I have received an email from the Burning Shed since my confirmed transaction email regarding my preorder of Anesthetize?... because I haven't... -------------
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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: May 23 2010 at 10:10
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Yes, they send another email when the item ships. At least I got one. My standard ed dvd shipped last Thursday. |
Posted By: The Monodrone
Date Posted: May 23 2010 at 10:16
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Hmm... I didn't receive a shipping confirmation email yet, though I am in the US....and so are you...I'm kind of worried now. -------------
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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: May 23 2010 at 10:51
Maybe I just ordered before you and they haven't gotten your order out yet....I hope....good luck mate!
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Posted By: The Monodrone
Date Posted: May 23 2010 at 10:54
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Yeah, I hope so too.. Thanks -------------
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Posted By: rushaholic
Date Posted: May 23 2010 at 16:20
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For all you PT fans that do not own a copy of Recordings (mine is #18153), this was just posted on the PT site: http://www.porcupinetree.com/ - http://www.porcupinetree.com/ Porcupine Tree's Recordings will be reissued on 6th September on KScope - a straight reissue, there won't be any bonus tracks or remastering. |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: May 23 2010 at 16:26
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Kind of dissapointed with the reissue - I'd love to hear it in 5.1, and since I already have the original CD, I don't have any reason to get that one. -------------
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Posted By: Kashmir75
Date Posted: May 23 2010 at 16:57
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I'll be getting this, as I don't own Recordings yet. Happy about this news! It would have been nice to hear it in 5.1, with maybe some Out Absentia tracks or something as a special bonus, though. Also, I'd heard Wilson was on the new Pendulum album. They're pretty big, aren't they? That's pretty cool. Any extra exposure for SW's talents is a good thing, in my book! ------------- Hello, mirror. So glad to see you, my friend. It's been a while... |
Posted By: The Monodrone
Date Posted: May 23 2010 at 18:14
Recordings!  That's great. I've been eager to run across the original for under $100, but I haven't, so this is good news! I would still like to find the original, though...
I heard about the Pendulum collaboration, but who are they?-------------
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Posted By: Roland113
Date Posted: May 23 2010 at 20:29
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Yeah, I'm pretty excited about the reissue regardless of any remastering or anything, it's impossible to get without forking over a boatload of cash. With that being said, I've got to say, this band has really been growing on me, I saw them two weeks ago and loved the show but the weird thing is that I've been listening to them almost exclusively since the show. If any pays attention to my Last FM numbers, I think Porcupine Tree has shot up over the last few weeks, knocking off a bunch of favorites and barreling down on Genesis. That's almost sacred ground. Regardless, every time I listen I hear something new. I recently pulled "Buying New Soul" off of my "Lightbulb Sun" bonus disc. Holy crap, how did that song not make it on the regular disc, as I said, I can't wait for "Recordings" to be reissued to get the rest of the out takes. "Stupid Dream" has really been growing on me as well. I absolutely love "Even Less", the creepy numbers read at the end are so haunting. "Prodigal" and "Dot Three" off of "In Absentia" are both fantastic. The solo at the end of "Prodigal" is worthy of anything that Roine Stolt would pull off and "Dot Three" is just a beautiful laid back piece that builds up beautifully. "Nil Recurring" is a recent pick up and I think every song on that is great. In total, I'm just plain loving this band as of late. ------------- -------someone please tell him to delete this line, he looks like a noob------- I don't have an unnatural obsession with Disney Princesses, I have a fourteen year old daughter and coping mechanisms. |
Posted By: The Monodrone
Date Posted: May 23 2010 at 20:42
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Yeah, they truly are an amazing progressive band! I know Recordings will be another great (re)release from a groundbreaking band. That's awesome that you've seen them live, as I have yet to. Hopefully that changes when I go to college... Nil Recurring is really great and I'd put it up there with their best albums, in my opinion... its beautifully dark and lyrically near-perfect (Nil Recurring is a 5 star track), and the heaviness is never "Dream Theater"-cheesy-heavy... sorry all you DT fans.. It's great to hear other people who really see that this band is one of the greatest prog bands around today, and ever, really..IMO... Keep listening, it will get even better! : ) -------------
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Posted By: Kashmir75
Date Posted: May 24 2010 at 02:49
Good man. I've been listening to them a lot myself lately. Ever since I saw them in concert, in point of fact. I hear something new every time I give one of their records a spin too. ------------- Hello, mirror. So glad to see you, my friend. It's been a while... |
Posted By: idiotPrayer
Date Posted: May 24 2010 at 06:30
5 of the 9 songs are however featured in 5.1 on the stupid dream and lightbulb sun reissues |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: May 24 2010 at 06:33
Hehe, I forgot that 
I guess the main point of the reissue is just to make it available on a CD to the hundreds of fans who don't have a copy, more than anything. Although some bonuses would've been nice. -------------
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Posted By: Palliams
Date Posted: May 24 2010 at 07:19
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The main bonus of Recordings for me will be to finally have it in my collection! Can't help but feel for anyone who's forked out for it though, as it would seem like a huge waste of money to them now! At least they could have felt a bit better if there were some sort of bonus content added to the new release!
Im curious as to everyone's age here, to see how varied PT's fanbase is. I'm 26 and discovered PT when I was 24.
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: May 24 2010 at 07:21
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I'm 16 and first heard about them when I was 14, although didn't actually get into them until I was 15. -------------
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Posted By: idiotPrayer
Date Posted: May 24 2010 at 07:26
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i have been listening to porcupine tree since i was born! true. my mum listens to it so i've been hearing it for 15 years, maybe that's why i'm so brainwashed that i buy steven wilson-related releases all the time! |
Posted By: Roland113
Date Posted: May 24 2010 at 07:29
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*laughs* I guess that puts me on the old stogy side of life at age 38.
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Posted By: Kashmir75
Date Posted: May 24 2010 at 07:41
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I'm 27, and I got into them about three years ago when FOABP came out, when I was 24. There's quite a range of ages represented here. PT really do seem to cross the generation gap. ------------- Hello, mirror. So glad to see you, my friend. It's been a while... |
Posted By: deathlifereborn
Date Posted: May 24 2010 at 07:45
| heard the songs fear of a blank planet and way out of here but didn't get an album by them until the incident came out (didn't like the album at first but after a few spins it grew on me), since then bought foabf and deadwing |
Posted By: The Monodrone
Date Posted: May 24 2010 at 16:16
I'm 18-- nearly 19-- and have been listening since I was 17... ever since I heard Fear of a Blank Planet, In Absentia and The Sky Moves Sideways... all legendary albums in my opinion... I actually really like The Incident. I haven't looked back since ( I now have their whole studio/most ep discography  ). -------------
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: May 24 2010 at 16:29
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My dad (who got me into prog to start with) actually got me into PT by telling me to see if they were any good. After that I got Stupid Dream, which I thought was only alright at first, then FoaBP and In Absentia, which I still didn't really like, but then I got TSMS which completely hooked me.
From there I've worked through the rest of their stuffed and loved it all  -------------
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Posted By: The Monodrone
Date Posted: May 24 2010 at 16:33
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Anyone here getting the Anesthetize standard edition?? If so, have you received an email or anything saying that it has shipped or anything? -------------
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Posted By: StyLaZyn
Date Posted: May 24 2010 at 17:44
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I must subscribe to this thread. ------------- 
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Posted By: The Monodrone
Date Posted: May 24 2010 at 17:46
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^ Yes, you must...muwhahaha... -------------
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Posted By: CryoftheCarrots
Date Posted: May 24 2010 at 23:18
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Why this band have never made it big mainstream is beyond me.They appeal to all ages/sexes.My biggest problem with PT is I keep buying more and more! ------------- "There is a lot in this world to be tense and intense about" MJK |
Still bangin me 'ead at 50. Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: May 25 2010 at 04:35
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It did make it mainstream. It reached its potential; at the Univers Zero concert last year I was in an audience of 60-70 people, at the Porcupine Tree we were 3000 people Considering their new shift for a more accessible music with The Incident, I think there is new potential now for growth. But their potential will never be for the "big mainstream" as you put it. IMO of course. |
Posted By: Roland113
Date Posted: May 25 2010 at 06:41
Oh cool, I'm not the old guy anymore  ------------- -------someone please tell him to delete this line, he looks like a noob------- I don't have an unnatural obsession with Disney Princesses, I have a fourteen year old daughter and coping mechanisms. |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: May 25 2010 at 07:04
Yeah, I've got the whole studio catalog, a live DVD, EPs, T-shirts, no bumper stickers at the moment. Why PT hasn't made it big mainstream? I think it's against the rules for prog bands to make it big mainstream these days. ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Posted By: Roland113
Date Posted: May 25 2010 at 07:59
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In all honesty, "The Incident" debuted at 24 on the Billboard chart. Yeah, I realize that it was mostly fanboys buying the CD the day it came out, but still, that's a pretty good showing, especially for a prog band. I expect the next one to be bigger, possibly even the heralded 'breakthrough' album. Once that happens...well, I can only imagine "Anesthetize" being played in an arena through a billion dollar sound system while a multi million dollar stage / light show goes on a-la a Genesis or Rush show...I for one can't wait.
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Posted By: RoeDent
Date Posted: May 25 2010 at 14:43
| Today I had one of those wonderful moments when something clicks and you love a song all of a sudden, with the masterpiece that is Anesthetize. I can't stop listening to it. Wonderful song, especially the middle section. |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: May 25 2010 at 16:04
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My standard edition arrived today! So for those wondering, it took only 4 days from the time of my shipment email to get from the UK to USA. I think that's pretty good. Looks tasty, but I won't watch it till Saturday night when I can "get in the proper mood" for such a cool dvd. |
Posted By: The Monodrone
Date Posted: May 25 2010 at 16:39
^ Lucky! I still haven't received my shipment confirmation email...  -------------
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: May 25 2010 at 17:02
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^Hmmm, that's a little odd. Are you sure you put in the right email address and everything?
If you got a payment confirmation email when you ordered, you should give Burning Shed an email to ask if yours has been shipped yet... -------------
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: May 25 2010 at 17:06
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Also, an email from John Wesley:
Hi Everyone, It has been a while since I have sent out an update and I wanted to touch base and let you all in on the latest news. The last year has been filled with so much -- between touring with Porcupine Tree, writing for my new album, and moving my recording studio -- I've had my hands quite full. First off...I am going back on tour with Porcupine Tree for the summer festivals all over Europe. Check the link here for dates: http://www.porcupinetree.com/tour.cfm - http://www.porcupinetree.com/tour.cfm While out on tour, I've been posting regular updates on Twitter and Facebook. You can sign up to follow me on Twitter or Facebook for my (almost) daily tour updates here: http://twitter.com/johnwesleymusic - http://twitter.com/johnwesleymusic http://www.facebook.com/johnwesleymusic - http://www.facebook.com/johnwesleymusic Next on the agenda is the continued progress of my next set of recordings. My plan is to release an initial 10 song set that consists of full band arrangements entitled, "disconnect". Work is taking place on this in between my heavy Porcupine Tree touring schedule and I hope to be finished by the end of the summer. So far, final drum and bass tracks are complete and I'm spending all of my time until the next Porcupine Tree touring leg tracking guitars. As in my past releases, Mark Prator is on drums and Andy Irvine and Dave Wehner on bass. Also, I have been working with Dean Tidey, who has been on hundreds of records and spent the last ten years touring with the UK band "Feeder." Dean is producing my new songs and playing guitar as well. I'm very excited about this collaboration and I think the results will be worth the wait. I have big plans for releases this year! This first set of 10 songs will be followed up by an EP (electric/acoustic) and another EP (all acoustic) by the end of the year. Additionally, I am in the process of mixing and mastering tracks from my performance at the 2009 Marillion Canadian Convention for a new download only release, which will soon be available in my download store. More information will be available about that soon! I have been in a really productive writing phase and now just need to find the time to get it all recorded. The Porcupine Tree touring has been so successful, that finding time to finish the solo work has been a challenge. Also, in the past few months, Mark Prator and I moved our studio business, RedRoom Recorders to a new location... come and take look... www.redroomrecorders.com - www.redroomrecorders.com . Last year while supporting Marillion at the Canadian Convention in Montreal, I had the chance to play with the band Sun Domingo. They recently released a recording of their shows in Montreal called "LIVE in Montreal / Marillion Weekend 2009" through Racket Records. I really think you will love this band if you didn't get a chance to hear them, and they are giving away a few tracks for FREE download here: http://bit.ly/sundomingo - http://bit.ly/sundomingo Also, I played on one of the tracks from on their upcoming studio release "PIECE EP," and the track is "MadMaze" which is set to release on June 22nd from Rock Ridge Music. You can find more info at www.sundomingo.com ... hope you enjoy! I hope to see you all out on tour somewhere soon...stay well... John Wesley And, if you guys don't know already, his entire solo discography is available for free, legal download on his homepage: http://www.john-wesley.com/Downloads.html - http://www.john-wesley.com/Downloads.html -------------
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Posted By: CryoftheCarrots
Date Posted: May 25 2010 at 17:19
Hehe. Its not just PT. I have all the NoMan/Blackfield/Steven Wilson,A few Bass Communion, ExWiseHeads,John Wesley,Theo Travis ! It goes on...
I have seen PT live twice,both times we had to travel half way across the country because they didn't come to our city.Took the wife the first time and we loved it -good crowd.Second time I took my son and he loved it too - huge crowd all ages and a LOT more women.My guess is that everyone that saw them the first time brought their partners for the second show a couple of years later.It was actually rather packed and next time they would probably require a bigger venue.
If I wear a PT tshirt and someone asks me who they are, I reply "the best band you've never heard!"
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Posted By: Kashmir75
Date Posted: May 25 2010 at 17:19
The Incident did actually put in a pretty valiant chart showing, yeah. As you say, I suspect it may have been fanboys buying them up as soon as it came out (I got mine the day it hit the shelves ), but number 24. That is an impressive effort, when you consider their first album to chart on the Billboard 200 (Deadwing) wallowed away in the lower echelons of the 100s. This tells us that either they are gaining many new fans, and the word of mouth is spreading; or that the existing fans are getting even more rabid, and ordering 20 copies each instead of one, and distributing them from the rooftops! So if the Incident got that high, the next album may finally be the one to crack into the top twenty. One suspects all it would take for the kids to pick up on PT is if Roadrunner managed to get a few tracks into a Guitar Hero game. ------------- Hello, mirror. So glad to see you, my friend. It's been a while... |
Posted By: Kashmir75
Date Posted: May 25 2010 at 17:21
Yeah I collect all of PTs side projects as well. It can be expensive being a PT fanboy.  I wear my PT shirt all the time, providing free advertising for the band, doing my part ------------- Hello, mirror. So glad to see you, my friend. It's been a while... |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: May 25 2010 at 17:27
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^I still need to get some Bass Communion; other than that, I've worked through as much of PT's discog as realistically possible, all of Blackfield's, about 2/3's of no-man's, SW's solo album and all the Cover Versions, and the IEM boxset is on order...
Feel like such a fanboy to think about all of the stuff I have from one man, but it's all been really high quality stuff. No complaints as far as disappointment or anything like it... Other than extreme aural pleasure  -------------
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Posted By: CryoftheCarrots
Date Posted: May 25 2010 at 20:30
That says it all. ------------- "There is a lot in this world to be tense and intense about" MJK |
Posted By: Palliams
Date Posted: May 26 2010 at 03:30
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I have no Bass Communion stuff, I have tried to give it a chance but it just isn't for me. I have the Best Of No-Man, but apart from the last track (which has an amazing guitar solo from Robert Fripp) on the first disc I don't really care for the rest. I actually think SW has a better voice than the guy singing. Blackfield 1 & 2 are great, for anyone wondering what Blackfield is about, imagine Stupid Dream/Lightbulb Sun era PT, minus the proggier/heavier moments.
Really looking forward to IEM as I have no idea what it's going to sound like, hopefully I won't be dissapointed.
Great to hear feedback about the different age groups by the way.
To all those of you who seem to be a little upset that PT aren't mainstream, 1. SW has always said that he didn't want PT to be mainstream 2. It's a good thing that they aren't because ticket prices would double, if not triple, and you'd have loads of annoying people going on about them who have only heard the latest 'breakthrough' album, and when you try to explain that they have actually been going for 20 years they just look at you funny, similar to what happened when the Kings Of Leon sold out whith there awful 4th album that every indie kid and his/her mum loves.
I like PT the way they are because you will ALWAYS be able to introduce them to people knowing that they will be amazed at how good they are, puzzled as to why they have never heard of them before.
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Posted By: Kashmir75
Date Posted: May 26 2010 at 06:56
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^Yeah, I do like that the venues are more intimate, and you get a better view of the band at a more reasonable price. I think it may be too late for them to become mega mainstream, anyway. How many bands became household names after 20 years of existence? I certainly wouldn't want the Kings of Leon crowd catching on to PT. The Radiohead and Tool crowd, yes. I haven't heard any Bass Communion yet. The Blackfield I have heard is very good. No Man aren't bad, but I agree that Steven has a better singing voice than Tim Bowness. I might get the limited IEM boxset, but I don't know what to expect, like yourself. I haven't heard a single note of IEM. Do I take a chance because I like Steven Wilson's other work? Maybe. ------------- Hello, mirror. So glad to see you, my friend. It's been a while... |
Posted By: The Monodrone
Date Posted: May 26 2010 at 07:01
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Bowness is a great singer, just a little off-putting because of his dramatic vocals. It took me a while to get used to him, but now I love Schoolyard Ghosts.... a really fine album. I must see PT live soon! -------------
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Posted By: Palliams
Date Posted: May 26 2010 at 07:23
| Well from what I have read Kashmir, the IEM stuff is supposed to be a similar sound to PT's more spacey work. The 1st album came out shortly after Signify. There's no vocals, just long jams. Sounds interesting enough to me. I know what you mean about taking a chance on it, but from my experience with Wilson releated punts, there's about an 80% of it being worth the risk. The Sky Moves Sideways was my 1st PT purchase and I'd not listened to any PT songs before that, and I wasn't dissapointed with Blackfield or his solo album, as I went about purchasing them in the same way having not listened to any songs from either effort. |
Posted By: Kashmir75
Date Posted: May 26 2010 at 07:40
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I might just take a risk on it, yeah. I enjoy pretty much all of SW's other work, so I'm bound to like it. When PT moved away from psych/space rock and into song-based structures, IEM took that over, apparently. Or so I've heard. ------------- Hello, mirror. So glad to see you, my friend. It's been a while... |
Posted By: The Monodrone
Date Posted: May 26 2010 at 18:19
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Just received ANESTHETIZE! ... it's so sleek and beautiful, but I can't watch it yet... I hate final exams week... Anyone else receive/watch it yet? What do you think about it? -------------
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Posted By: idiotPrayer
Date Posted: May 27 2010 at 01:07
on the pineapple thief site, there's this thing that you can draw your favourite album artwork on a post-it, scan it in and it get's published. here is steven wilson, anyone recognize it? http://www.kscopemusic.com/thepineapplethief/someonehereismissing/album-sketches.php - http://www.kscopemusic.com/thepineapplethief/someonehereismissing/album-sketches.php |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: May 27 2010 at 01:13
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No idea of Steven's, but Danny Cavanagh's is of Sigur Ros's Takk artwork.
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Date Posted: May 27 2010 at 01:48
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Posted By: Black Rose Immortal
Date Posted: May 27 2010 at 02:41
| anyone else than me think that '' Flicker '' from The Incident is PT's best song so far. it's just the perfect middle between space/psychadelic and semi-metal/rock prog of their diffrent albums. I hope they'll keep goin that way |
Posted By: Any Colour You Like
Date Posted: May 27 2010 at 02:47
| In all honesty, no, but it is one of the better tracks from that album. |
Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: May 27 2010 at 02:53
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^ For me, Flicker is easily the best of the tracks on disc two of The Incident. It really is gorgeous, those harmonies are melancholic and beautiful.
I also saw one insane post somewhere on PA stating that you can't hear Barbieri on The Incident, that was part of the put-down of the album. Well, just listen to his keyboards on Flicker, stunningly gorgeous.
I know what you mean, hints of the old PT in there, although I reckon there's plenty of those elsewhere on the rest of The Incident too.
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Posted By: Kashmir75
Date Posted: May 27 2010 at 02:53
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Steven's isn't the first Black Sabbath album cover by any chance is it? ------------- Hello, mirror. So glad to see you, my friend. It's been a while... |
Posted By: Kashmir75
Date Posted: May 27 2010 at 02:55
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I can hear Barbieri all over the Incident. He has his own instrumental track (The Yellow Windows of the Evening Train) for god's sake! I don't get where those criticisms are coming from. And yes, Flicker is a very lovely song. Barbieri wrote Black Dahlia too, IIRC, another beauty of a track. ------------- Hello, mirror. So glad to see you, my friend. It's been a while... |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: May 27 2010 at 05:03
Speaking of what direction should PT take... I would like to be surprised! instead of having them satisfy our expectations. Just like they did with The Incident 
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Posted By: Palliams
Date Posted: May 27 2010 at 05:52
| Flicker is great, but could have been so much more. When I first heard it I was expecting a 'Shine On You Crazy Diamond' like epic, but then it just fizzles out after 3:30 mins. It's the only song that really irritates me because of that. Buying New Soul... now there's a perfect example of... well how to write/perform a perfect song I suppose! |
Posted By: Kashmir75
Date Posted: May 27 2010 at 06:22
Yeah me too. I would like the next album to completely surprise us. In fact, maybe its time for a new era of PT! The psych era lasted for four albums. The pop song era for two. The heavy prog/metal era has now been with us for four albums. The next one should go in yet another direction. I don't think PT have stopped their evolution yet. ------------- Hello, mirror. So glad to see you, my friend. It's been a while... |
Posted By: Kashmir75
Date Posted: May 27 2010 at 06:55
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Just now, I ordered The Pineapple Thief's new album, the first two Blackfield albums, and an IEM download (Have Come For Your Children) from Burning Shed. Listening to IEM now. It's very space rock. Even moreso than early PT. ------------- Hello, mirror. So glad to see you, my friend. It's been a while... |
Posted By: Palliams
Date Posted: May 27 2010 at 07:15
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Sounds great Kashmir. If you haven't got it already, I'd also recommend the Live CD/DVD package of Blackfield Live In NYC. It's an excellent gig at a reasonable price! |
Posted By: Roland113
Date Posted: May 27 2010 at 07:16
I've definitely seen this before, I'm at work so I don't have my actual CD's with me but isn't this an image from Deadwing? I'm thinking either the back or something from the inner sleeve. The black thing is a keyhole if that sparks anyone else's memory. ------------- -------someone please tell him to delete this line, he looks like a noob------- I don't have an unnatural obsession with Disney Princesses, I have a fourteen year old daughter and coping mechanisms. |
Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: May 27 2010 at 11:21
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An album I've been playing a lot is Signify.
I'd always looked upon this as the weakest of the classic early PT cds, and sort of neglected it over the years. I think that was a little unfair, on reflection. Whilst I don't think it's as good as Up The Downstair or TSMS there's a lot of great stuff on it. Waiting 1 and 2 are awesome and I've always loved Intermediate Jesus, that's a fantastic track (and a brilliant title
). Dark Matter is pretty special too. Hell, it's all good.One thing I will say is the bonus cd on Signify isn't as good as the bonus cd for UTD or TSMS. However the real "extra" cd from this period I suppose is the Metanoia album that was recorded during those sessions. That's a brilliant cd in my opinion but one that's almost universally loathed
 . Just interested to see what the rest of you guys think.
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: May 27 2010 at 16:30
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Great to hear Kashmir, I'm pretty sure you'll love the two Blackfield albums. The live CD/DVD is a must if you enjoy those two as well.
RE Roj on Signify; it's the disc I visit the least, although it's still fantastic. Dark Matter is absolutely stunning, and Waiting Phase One is beautiful. As far as Insignificance grows, I really love the Wake as Gun I and Wake as Gun II tracks as well as Smiling Not Smiling, although I rarely visit the rest... Metanoia is a fantastic album for studying or writing assignments to, but again, I rarely visit it. I find it a bit straining to listen to the entire thing one way through in full focus, though. -------------
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Posted By: Kashmir75
Date Posted: May 27 2010 at 17:00
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I'm pretty sure I'll love Blackfield, based on the samples I've heard, and based on your words. I've heard its like the SD/LS era of PT. If so, I'll adore it, as they're two of my favourite PT albums. As for Signify, I love that album. I spin it maybe the most out of PTs space rock era. It's a very transitional album (half songs, half spacey ambience), and you can hear the seeds of their later work starting to happen. Waiting, Sleep of No Dreaming, and Dark Matter are all gorgeous songs. Every Home Is Wired almost sounds like a Stupid Dream era song, with its vocal harmonies. Even their metal side is hinted at, with the title track's riffing. As for Metanoia, well, that's one I don't play that often. I can take it in chunks, but I rarely get through it all in one sitting. It's better for background ambience, than for actual attentive listening. If I had a gun to my head, I'd have to pick that as my least favourite PT release. It's not bad, though. No PT album is. ------------- Hello, mirror. So glad to see you, my friend. It's been a while... |
Posted By: The Monodrone
Date Posted: May 27 2010 at 19:57
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Posted By: Kashmir75
Date Posted: May 28 2010 at 03:42
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According to someone over on the PT Forum website, PorcupineTree were raved about in the UK Times newspaper, by the guy from the band Pendulum (who are making it big with their new album)! The Times is a pretty major newspaper, so this exposure is certainly a good thing. On one hand, I like it that PT are our little secret. But on the other, I really do think they deserve more success. The Pendulum guy said that 'Have you heard of this band Porcupine Tree? Steve Wilson is one of the best songwriters in the UK' ------------- Hello, mirror. So glad to see you, my friend. It's been a while... |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: May 28 2010 at 04:53
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Eh, if they were any bigger, it'd be a lot less fun to go to shows and to get the Sp. Editions... There's no chance that I'd have got the Red edition of Anesthetize if they were as big as say Muse or Radiohead.
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Posted By: Kashmir75
Date Posted: May 28 2010 at 05:09
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Yeah. I see your point. If PT were Muse or Radiohead big, there's no way in hell we'd get either the red or grey editions! Ticket prices would be a lot higher. The media is partly to blame for PTs less than A league status. The mags and papers kind of anoint a few darlings and write about them nonstop. Like the above mentioned Muse, for one example. So whenever Rolling Stone or someone writes 'PT are a band you may not have heard of', well, duh. It's because you guys never promote or write features on them!  ------------- Hello, mirror. So glad to see you, my friend. It's been a while... |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: May 28 2010 at 05:12
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Also, can't wait for this tuesday, the Anesthetize sp. ed. ships then. Seriously, this afternoon at JB hifi, it was a massive strain to refrain from buying the standard
Glad I did though. Rather see (and hear) it in Bluray for the first time. -------------
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Posted By: Kashmir75
Date Posted: May 28 2010 at 05:18
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^You've more patience than I, then! When I was in JB Hi Fi last time, I just was forced to buy it! Couldn't resist. I'm still excited for the special edition though, with the Blu Ray and audio discs. And the lovely shiny packaging and art book. PT really do have lovely packaging which looks great on your CD shelf. I have to stop myself walking into JB Hi Fi these days, as I can't seem to come out without buying something! I may have to put a lock on Burning Shed's website as well, for the same reason! Speaking of PTs great artwork, what's your favourite album cover? I really like the Lightbulb Sun design, myself. And In Absentia is a good one, it really creeps me out. ------------- Hello, mirror. So glad to see you, my friend. It's been a while... |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: May 28 2010 at 05:24
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JB hifi sure know how to bring me down; nearly every friday I stop by and leave with a CD when I'm usually just planning to walk past straight through to the bus stop
The one which immediately jumps out at me is always Lightbulb Sun, love the grey photo with the glowing orange. The original Stupid Dream art is great, although the art on the remastered packaging looks like a Sony ad Really dislike their new choice of art for that one.
I really love Signify as well. In all honesty, their art has been getting less spectacular over the years for me. UTD through Stupid Dream have amazing art, and IA/Deadwing/The Incident all seem a lot less intriguing and multi-faceted to me. Nil Recurring has pretty cool art, though. Especially the booklet. -------------
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Posted By: Kashmir75
Date Posted: May 28 2010 at 05:33
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Yes, I prefer the original SD art, to the reissue. It does look like a Sony ad campaign. The photography in their booklets is still quite interesting. The promotional photos by Lasse Hoile for FOABP and The Incident are creepy and suitably unnerving. I've got a few PC wallpapers of some of the FOABP/Incident promo photos. ------------- Hello, mirror. So glad to see you, my friend. It's been a while... |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: May 28 2010 at 05:49
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Yeah, it's all good stuff.
The early PT photos are awesome: 
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: May 28 2010 at 05:53
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OMg how creepy is that last pic
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: May 28 2010 at 05:58
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It looks like Steven has two black holes for eyes Tim Bowness hasn't really changed since that pic though.
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: May 28 2010 at 06:01
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Yeah, it's a combination of pale, mortuary mask appearance (like Data from Star Trek), the long hair and the black holes... He's a vampire! I KNEW IT ALL ALONG!
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