Why Waters Left the Floyd's !!

From the reading I've done, I think he simply tired of carrying the others and fighting with people who were not able or willing to contribute much anymore.  By Gilmour's own admission he was a lazy songwriter.  He didn't do his part, and were it not for what others see as "tyrannical behaviour" by Waters, there would not have been all of those monster albums to enjoy.  Someone had to keep the pressure on to *work*, and without Roger's willingness to be unpopular to the others, the band would have slipped much sooner into domesticity, sailing, and cars/golf.  Sure, Waters no doubt was a huge ego and not very diplomatic, but these are symptoms of the underlying problem, not the problem itself. 

That is not to diminish the musical talents of Gilmour and Wright, they are formidable at what they gave the group.  But without Roger, you are left with the mediocrity of Momentary Lapse, etc. 

Adams Bolero wrote: David Gilmour may have played great guitar solos but he wouldn't have had songs to play them if it wasn't for Roger writing them. Listen to his atmospheric bass playing in ''Careful with that axe Eugene'' and tell me he isn't a great bass player.

Ronnie Pilgrim wrote: The Truth wrote: Yes he's a great lyricist and an ok musician I think you have that backwards.  Also seeing him in Denver in November. I've seen him twice before, and Floyd twice before, and let me reassure you: he is just as good as the whole band together. His bass is the most penetrating live bass I have ever experienced. Prepare to be penetrated!

RoyFairbank wrote: I totally oppose any insult to Roger. He is Pink Floyd. Pink Floyd was nothing before Syd Left. Psychadelic bullsh*t, decent for that, but punchless. When the band was democratic they sucked even worst. Only when Roger took charge and began writing material "selfishly" did the greatest rock works come to life. Roger had a vision, a conscience and an intelligent plan. Gilmour, the only other serious writer in the Floyd, was completely groundless and incapable when it came to writing ART and not just music. Roger made his guitar work meaningful. When Roger left David HIRED a bunch of great writers and they put together a MUSICAL copycat of Pink Floyd that is quite good, but misses the intellectual points of Floyd as seen in Rog's works Pros and Cons and Amused to Death. Rog's show is brilliant by the way.

RoyFairbank wrote: I totally oppose any insult to Roger. He is Pink Floyd. Pink Floyd was nothing before Syd Left. Psychadelic bullsh*t, decent for that, but punchless. When the band was democratic they sucked even worst. Only when Roger took charge and began writing material "selfishly" did the greatest rock works come to life. Roger had a vision, a conscience and an intelligent plan. Gilmour, the only other serious writer in the Floyd, was completely groundless and incapable when it came to writing ART and not just music. Roger made his guitar work meaningful. When Roger left David HIRED a bunch of great writers and they put together a MUSICAL copycat of Pink Floyd that is quite good, but misses the intellectual points of Floyd as seen in Rog's works Pros and Cons and Amused to Death. Rog's show is brilliant by the way.

To compare just how much Floyd were not without Waters, you only have to listen to Amused To Death and compare it to MLOR & The Division Bell. The latter two are ordinary, whilst the former is utter genius.

They were a great collective, but most certainly missed Waters lyrical and creative input after the collective egos basically tore the band apart.

I would imagine that all would now admit to having played a part in that.

Who cares!!!!

Why Waters entered Floyd !!!!
Syd was much better. He wasn't a genius, but his music was very better to hear.

To the thread starter, i'll put by memory an interview that i read from Gilmour in Guitar Player in 92 or 93.

I just wish the whole band could've seen how much better their music was when they all worked as a team... The whole deal could be everybody was getting lazy except Roger.