The Marillion Round Table

E-Dub wrote: Afraid Of Sunlight is such a stunning album. Neck and neck with Marbles as my second favorite, but tracks like "Beautiful" could very well pull it into the lead. Hogarth's vocals on that song is sublime. I've got Size Matters on in the car's player. "Interior Lulu" Just drops my jaw. E

mmmmm... I would put that one as third, actually.  I guess Brave and Marbles are just about even for me... it really depends on the day.  Afraid of Sunlight does have "Out of this World," though, which is a wonderful track!

Progfan1958 wrote: progkidjoel wrote: The boxset arrived yesterday, watched it from start to finish. Absolutely BRILLIANT stuff! My favourite disc was by far the Sunday night show, the epics are all fantastically presented here. Such an awesome show! I really have to make my way to one of these conventions, the whole recording is so brilliant. Welcome to Montreal if you can make it !  No roos running around here, but last week the police had to tranquilize a moose that had made it's way into the city ( though it's the first time I've ever heard of it happening in Montreal ! ) .  She was safely realeased back into the forest. No Marillion T-shirt on the animal. so it couldn't have been an early convention-goer. Enjoy the DVD. Interior Lulu is really excellent. Steve

I'd absolutely love to pop over for the convention, although school and other commitments definitely don't allow for that right now... After I've finished school though, I'm definitely going to have a gap year and travel, hopefully with a Marillion convention somewhere in the itinerary

Putting on Afraid Of Sunlight now following the conversation... Man, I can't believe I called this album 'dull' when I first bought it! Such a wonderful disc.

Absolutely - intense is just about the perfect word to describe it.

kenmartree wrote: Let's move the Marillion discussion back to this thread, I'm pretty sure Ivan won't troll here!  kenmar

Basíleia wrote: ^ Did I miss something? Where was the discussion held previously?

Eric,  I've seen Ivan get into these things in other threads and he is relentless, never compromising and never reaching any kind of resolution.  How must the poor guy feel who started the thread just looking for a rec.  to see it hijacked in the way it was.  I'll even accept the 'none' of H era as a rec., but then he reposted with "boring and no imagination". 

Wow, I've always thought Iván - I don't know him, but from his reviews - to be an opinion-motivating person, but from what I've read at the Hogarth-era thread... He was dragging on about, what people would have said or implied - a word which one, IMO, should never use on a site such as PA, because of the many people here whose first language isn't English and who then are being "attacked" for things they would have implied, but haven't meant that way, all due to their influency in the English language (which, by the way, was nót the case here, in my opinion) - and he kept "mierenneukend" - which literally is Dutch for "f**king ants" and means that he noted every flaw or detail in his in this discussion " opponents' " postes and pointed them out and used these as arguments or "cards" in the discussion against his "opponents" - and thus missing the point of the whole thread: with which Hogarth-era albums the author should start; not if he should start. Now, he might have been right about some things he has said in the relatively long discussion, but he kept rambling on about, how he had the right to "advice" the author not to purchase any h-era Marillion CD, but in my opinion he did not have that right, because it was nót a good or proper answer to the author's initial question. I don't know if it's his attorneyish character, but was it too difficult for him to acknowledge that he was wrong with his initial response?          I just read the whole thread and I was strongly offended by his behaviour - not very much, that he initially had missunderstood the question, because we are not freeking flawless gods, but especially that he kept on raging after the author had kept no room left for any doubt anywhere whatsoever - and thus wanted to let you know, what I thought about it. I hope you all have understood me the way I mented all this, being it that my first language is not the English one and I tend to be quite long-winded when I speak or write.

Edited by Basíleia - July 08 2010 at 19:42

Jordan,  I mentioned the thread you started because this thread had been silent for I while and when I started reading the thread you started I found out why. 

^BTW, let us know which one you're planning to buy and what you think of it. 

E-Dub wrote: kenmartree wrote: Let's move the Marillion discussion back to this thread, I'm pretty sure Ivan won't troll here!  kenmar Have no illusions, Ivan is a very good guy and not a troll. Although I didn't agree with his input on the Hogarth thread, he shouldn't be considered a 'troll'. He and I (along with H.T.) worked really hard on getting the Neo section of Progarchives back into shape and he puts a lot of effort into this site. Ivan has VERY strong opinions and isn't afraid to voice them--we shouldn't fault him for that. I just don't think that was the forum to express those particular views, but the guy isn't a 'troll'. E

Hi Eric. The word "troll" wasn't used descriptively towards Ivan, rather troll as in "go fishing".  When I posted my comment about his approach he then went through my profile and reviews to find anything I said in them that could possibly be interpreted as contradictory to the post I had recently made. I guess a lawyer just doing his research. He's certainly a good fellow and has contributed a lot to this site-a lot more that my measly dozen or so reviews-but sometimes he seems a bit close minded. Ultimately is his option though.