Officers taser 86 old disabled woman in bed

TheClosing wrote:   There's nothing wrong with my grammar or my use of quotation.

TheClosing wrote: JLocke wrote:   Yes there is.  No, there isn't.  That's a free grammar lesson on the house, pal.

Epignosis wrote: 1. I have never known a prostitute who did what she did because of she had exhausted all other possibilities.  I also never knew a prostitute who wasn't using drugs.

1. So you only hang out with female prostitutes?
2. Whenever I hear the word taser, the name Beavis comes to mind for some reason.

 

Epignosis wrote: 1. I have never known a prostitute who did what she did because of she had exhausted all other possibilities.  I also never knew a prostitute who wasn't using drugs. 2. Not every thief is Jean Valjean.  You ignored an earlier post of mine I'd like you to respond to.  Here it is: People don't steal because they are starving. TVs, guns, perfume and cosmetics, cell phones and iPods (the most stolen items) are not edible.  If you argue these items are sold to buy food, that is foolishness.  Otherwise, why not steal food?  Grocery stores are easier to steal from than hi-tech stores and pawn shops.  3. A huge portion of theft comes from people who steal from their employers (i.e., people who have jobs).  Employee theft was estimated to be a $40 billion dollar a year "industry-" and that was in 1988. 4. Even if you steal to feed your children (and I would argue that those who do are way in the minority), stealing is still wrong.  It is also illegal.  Such a thief can still be arrested.  However, the sentence may be lighter due to something called mitigating circumstances. 5. Afford birth control?  You can get a condom for 75 cents.

 

TheClosing wrote:   Epignosis wrote: 1. I have never known a prostitute who did what she did because of she had exhausted all other possibilities.  I also never knew a prostitute who wasn't using drugs. 2. Not every thief is Jean Valjean.  You ignored an earlier post of mine I'd like you to respond to.  Here it is: People don't steal because they are starving. TVs, guns, perfume and cosmetics, cell phones and iPods (the most stolen items) are not edible.  If you argue these items are sold to buy food, that is foolishness.  Otherwise, why not steal food?  Grocery stores are easier to steal from than hi-tech stores and pawn shops.  3. A huge portion of theft comes from people who steal from their employers (i.e., people who have jobs).  Employee theft was estimated to be a $40 billion dollar a year "industry-" and that was in 1988. 4. Even if you steal to feed your children (and I would argue that those who do are way in the minority), stealing is still wrong.  It is also illegal.  Such a thief can still be arrested.  However, the sentence may be lighter due to something called mitigating circumstances. 5. Afford birth control?  You can get a condom for 75 cents.   1. Glad you know your fair share of hookers. I'm sure wh*re is right up there with world class ballerina. 2.  I like how you conveniently left out the part about meat & cheese. Also that the majority of the goods were stolen for resale.  3.  People steal for multiple, often shallow reasons as well.  Although there are other reasons why someone might steal from a company that doesn't pay them enough to pay their bills.  4. The ten commandments were created by man to help control the people of Israel. They were a pretty wild bunch way back when so the only way to keep them in check was to tell them that an invisible man in the sky is watching their every move. Believe what you will but most things aren't as black & white as they made it out to be in the bible. I'm going to keep reiterating this if you keep bring the same thing up.  5. People make rash decisions when it comes to sex. No one wants to wear a condom their entire life. Bet you'd be surprised the number of people who were born because of irresponsible decisions. The children are the ones who lose in this situation.  "The first time I stole so that I wouldn't starve, I lost many assumptions about the simple nature of right and wrong." Bonus points for anyone who gets the reference.   P.S. I've never stolen anything in my entire life, but then again I haven't had to either.

1. Yes, I've known quite a few people who were at one time or another a prostitute.  I've even taught some of their children in high school.

2. I did not conveniently leave out anything.  The video says the most frequently stolen items from grocery stores is meat and cheese.  There's always going to be something that's the most frequently stolen something from grocery stores.  That it's meat and cheese is irrelevant (those two things tend to be on the pricier side, by the way).  And yes, the stolen goods were usually for resale purposes- presumably because the thieves had families who were going hungry, right?  Nonsense.

3. I see.  It's the companies' fault they are getting stolen from.  Blame the victim.

4. Do you mean to suggest that the ancient Greeks did not have laws against property crimes?  Or the ancient Babylonians?  Or the Romans?  Or the Sumerians?  Or the Chinese?  Or the Egyptians?

5. You said in your scenario the woman couldn't afford birth control.  I said a condom costs 75 cents.  Now you say "No one wants to wear a condom their entire life."  So what?  Going to go skydiving without a parachute just because you don't feel like wearing one? 

Bet I'd be surprised at what now?  Um...I was conceived out of an irresponsible decision.  And I don't feel like a loser.  Neither of my parents turned to theft or prostitution either.

Also, I don't know why I argue with people who never produce sources to back up their claims (And quoting Batman doesn't count).

Epignosis wrote: Slartibartfast wrote: Epignosis wrote: 1. I have never known a prostitute who did what she did because of she had exhausted all other possibilities.  I also never knew a prostitute who wasn't using drugs. 1. So you only hang out with female prostitutes? 2. Whenever I hear the word taser, the name Beavis comes to mind for some reason. We had quite a few in our area.  I actually picked up two (both by accident).

That actually happened to me once.  This lady flagged me down for a ride in Chamblee Plaza.  About 5 minutes into the ride she hit me up.
I had a live in girlfriend at the time so I guess you could say I was already paying for sex.  Thanks but no thanks.  I let her out on Shallowford Road.

As much as I hate to turn my back on people, I have become rather cynical.  The best way to test someone's sincerity is to offer to buy them some food.  Then get them something that's really healthy if they accept.  I was in New York City a few years ago and had to take out the remains of a sandwich as big as my from a deli.  I gave it to a beggar.  He probably could have lived for a week off the damn thing.

On a completely side note, my wife grew up in Staten Island.  I work in architecture.  Guess where the first place I wanted to go when we went into the city?  The World Trade Center.  It was cold as hell up there, but the view was awesome.  The next year, The Empire State Building was on the agenda.  It was cold as hell up there.   Is "cold as hell" even the proper phrase to use anyway?


Edited by Slartibartfast - June 28 2010 at 12:01

Rob, you're being a little disingenous. I work retail, and I assure you, it is much, much easier to steal $400 of stuff from me without getting caught and resell it for $200 on eBay than it is to steal $200 of food from a grocery store. And food doesn't pay the rent. I still agree that the honest person stealing before they starve is rare, but the dishonest person who is in a problem that he created will still starve if he doesn't do something.