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Kashmir75
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Posted: May 29 2010 at 18:35 |
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Why? Because half the band is dead? |
Didn't stop The Who.
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tdfloyd
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Posted: May 29 2010 at 20:15 |
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It's never going to happen, not in a million years. None of them need the money (Gilmour gave away millions a little while ago after selling some mansion), they will never record anything new, and Waters & gilmour have only recently learned how to merely tolerate each others company again.
Live 8 was great - let's all leave it at that and remember a great band in their heyday.
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Gilmour asked Waters to perform Dark Side on the Pulse tour. Waters declined. RW also turned down invitations to his 60 birthday bash. RW did appear briefly on one of DG's videos in a non musical role. It was only slightly less awkward then they were at the end of Live 8. Gilmour turning down Waters should be no surprise to anyone. Too many years of bad blood. A shame as togehter the 4 of them made themselves unbelieveably wealthy.
I'm not holding my breath, but it would be a long Floyd fans delight if if Mason and Gilmour would make an appearance at a RW show. I don't expect any of them to tour again.
Long Live The Floyd.
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Dellinger
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Posted: May 29 2010 at 22:57 |
Well, ofcourse he has a free will, and it's perfecty respectable that he wants to enjoy the rest of his life without having to worry about concerts and gigs and tours and albums. He has done all that. He doesn't need the money nor the fame nor anything. I was just clarifing that in this case, it is Gilmour who doesn't want to be involved anymore, not Waters (though Waters did have his opportunities to decline playing with Pink Floyd again when they asked him to do PULSE with them).
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oddiyo
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Posted: May 31 2010 at 18:18 |
It's best to remember the past as is. Timing is everything... Back in 1987, Waters was at Gilmour, Mason, and Wright's collective throat for using the Pink Floyd name. Perhaps it would have been a good time then, to patch up their differences and create something new and worthwhile. Anyway, they missed the boat and it won't come back. We are very lucky to have their reunion show from 2005, and should be grateful it finally ended on a positive note.
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Posted: June 01 2010 at 13:20 |
Roger Waters is Pink Floyd. What he does is Pink Floyd, his albums, his tour. The guitar sound will be missed, but alas. As for Wright, he was "instrumental" in Floyd in the early to mid 70s, but not so much in their just as great late 70s and early 80s days. In brief, it would be great to have Dave's guitar in it, but I'm content with whatever Roger does as long as he releases a topical and well thought out rock album some time soon . I really hope I can get to see the wall but it may be beyond my means.
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oddiyo
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Posted: June 01 2010 at 21:44 |
In my opinion, Roger Waters IS Roger Waters, and not Pink Floyd, and he would most certainly agree. The last Floyd album with anything to resemble any sort of collaboration was released in '77 with "Animals". As far as I'm concerned, "The Wall" is a different sound, and it was the beginning of Roger's solo career, which continues to this day.
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Posted: June 01 2010 at 22:26 |
Indeed, even though Roger has done some very good things on his own, he hasn't achieved the same classic Pink Floyd sound from albums like Meddle, DSotM, Wish you were here, and Animals. The collaboration and participation of every member was needed to achieve that sound. Neither has Pink Floyd or his later version of the band achive that sound, and still he managed to do some good things on his own.
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oddiyo
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Posted: June 01 2010 at 23:04 |
If anyone wants to witness Floyd at the height of their powers it's preserved on the Pompeii film. Gilmour and Wright were in harmony providing the vocals and instrumental soundscapes with Mason. Waters at this time was the idea man, and his lyrics always thought provoking. I think there was a definite balance in this period, and everyone seems to appear happy when you watch the film.
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Posted: June 02 2010 at 19:16 |
To me, keyboardist Rick Wright was very under-rated and contributed so much to the sound of Floyd even if he did not write much material.
The Who was not better with Kenny Jones replacing Keith Moon, likewise with the absence of John Entwistle
Likewise, KISS is not better without Ace Frehley (even if the guitarist Tommy Thayer wears Ace's face paint).
Sorry, at probably $200 a ticket price, I would not go to a PF reunion.
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Posted: June 02 2010 at 21:46 |
oddiyo wrote:
If anyone wants to witness Floyd at the height of their powers it's preserved on the Pompeii film. Gilmour and Wright were in harmony providing the vocals and instrumental soundscapes with Mason. Waters at this time was the idea man, and his lyrics always thought provoking. I think there was a definite balance in this period, and everyone seems to appear happy when you watch the film. |
I really love that video, excellent from start to finish. A great closing for the early period of Floyd before Dark Side of the Moon. I prefer the era from Meddle to Animals over the early stuff (even though I like many of those songs too), but Live at Pompeii I love just as much as any of those other albums. I wish it was available on CD too.
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Posted: June 04 2010 at 06:18 |
One thing about the pre DSOTM PF is that DG played less standard lead (a lot of slide, rhythm and harmony)... just wonder how a more standard approach to playing influenced the PF direction. One of the few times DG let rip those fabulous leads (IMHO) was on the Embryo - a track noticeably not featured in the official releases. Ok he made up for the lack of lead work from Dark Side onward, but it sure characterizes DG as one of the more experimental guiatr players in progressive music. Still love Sorrow though!
Am I off topic? Sorry what was the question? Reunion? Oh, yes.
Go for it guys. While we're still young. They could make a great power trio, heaven knows they have enough superb shadow players to fill in the places where things get too hard.It's not as though their line up has never been su[pplemented. And how about On The Turning Away on the Delicate Sound. For an instrumental band they could sure produce some great collective vocals, that was VF impressive.
But no, too much water has been passed under the bridge. Be nice for DG to appear with RW on The Wall. His vocal on Comfortably Numb is sorely missed (especially when I hear Van Morrison's version) sorry Van but DG's the man for this one - his singing contrasts RW's sinister vox perfectly.
Oh and his guitar solo on the same song. RW should tell him he can stand on top of the Wall with huge light behind him like the first time (PF at Wembley 80). Apparently DG liked that. And who wouldn't.
So I encourage this as a nice little part time earner while they spend ten years writing albums MInd you RW has a very interesting selection of solo albums. Shame I'm not that keen on most of them - and I've tried.
cheers!
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Posted: June 04 2010 at 07:24 |
Oh, by the way. Which one's Pink?
RoyFairbank wrote:
Roger Waters is Pink Floyd.
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Posted: June 07 2010 at 12:31 |
SMSM wrote:
To me, keyboardist Rick Wright was very under-rated and contributed so much to the sound of Floyd even if he did not write much material.
The Who was not better with Kenny Jones replacing Keith Moon, likewise with the absence of John Entwistle
Likewise, KISS is not better without Ace Frehley (even if the guitarist Tommy Thayer wears Ace's face paint).
Sorry, at probably $200 a ticket price, I would not go to a PF reunion. |
I wouldn't disagree...... Rick Wright's gone... So Pink Floyd is just a name (of a big old band) without "P" letter or "F" letter, or any letter that had been created them.
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TheRedPlanet
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Posted: June 18 2010 at 05:58 |
The main problem for a Re-union is the massive tour who will very certainly follow... that's what recently said David Gilmour... the perspective of a giant supermassive tour is not very funny for old guys...
OK... but why not do a little tour i mean 20 fat dates around the world are not excessive ... Or just even 5 date with 2 filmed for a later DVD...
I don't think that this is that horrible to do...
People who said that this won't be Pink Floyd because Wright and Barrett are not here... i don't understand them....
If Waters is back in the band ....a Waters/Gilmour/Mason version is no less PInk Floyd than the previous Gilmour/Wright/Mason....
I know i dream... but it all depends of the axis relationship between Gilmour and Waters...
I know Wright was important... he was the landscape of their sound... (how & which substitute for him!?)
but honestly i think that those guy won't change of advice... it's so hard to write " E N D " over the last page of their story... so hard...
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Anthony
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Posted: June 19 2010 at 16:11 |
This is just so typically Waters. He tried to kill Pink Floyd 25 years ago, but thank God he failed. And then 20 years later there's Live 8, and miracle of miracles, there's this one-off reunion, and then he blames Gilmour for not continuing the reunion. As if he was back in charge again automatically. Well, I'm glad it didn't happen. Who needs those awful out-of-tune vocals anyway, which ruined "Wish you were here" entirely!? Give me another Gilmour solo album over Waters' annoying crap anytime!
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Chris S
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Posted: June 19 2010 at 17:43 |
topographicbroadways wrote:
iguana wrote:
r.i.p. richard wright. there's your missing link. and just in case this is becoming a “who could possibly take rick wright's place“ thread (hey! not so uninteresting.), may i throw richard barbieri into the equation? |
Jon Carin performed with Rick hundreds of times played in his shadow enough too become the perfect clone and has a great voice, if theres one obvious man whos earned that place its jon carin, obviously it'd be more exciting too have another famous keyboardist take the place but i think that just wouldnt work out |
Spoken exactly right!!! JC's the man. A pity Gilmour does not relinquish the Floyd naming rights back to Roger Waters, especially as Waters has the energy again to strive onward in their twilight days.
saw a great YouTube interview with Waters and David Frost from December 2009. A really incredible man. Would love to see The Wall played in Palestine. After all it is the Israeli wall that needs to come down next.
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Posted: June 19 2010 at 17:52 |
Richard Wright replacements? Interesting topic. Does anyone think Gary Brooker would be good? Those lovely piano melodies and the graceful vocals? Or Matthew Fisher?
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Posted: June 19 2010 at 18:12 |
Finnforest wrote:
Richard Wright replacements? Interesting topic. Does anyone think Gary Brooker would be good? Those lovely piano melodies and the graceful vocals? Or Matthew Fisher? |
I don't know, can't seem to think straight. That perfect woman in your avatar keeps distracting me
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Posted: June 19 2010 at 18:19 |
Chris S wrote:
Finnforest wrote:
Richard Wright replacements? Interesting topic. Does anyone think Gary Brooker would be good? Those lovely piano melodies and the graceful vocals? Or Matthew Fisher? |
I don't know, can't seem to think straight. That perfect woman in your avatar keeps distracting me |
Yeah, ain't she somethin'. And I think she was only 18 when that was taken. She looks more mature to me there, more like 28.
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CinemaZebra
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Posted: June 19 2010 at 19:00 |
Now that the two most talented members of Floyd are gone, a reunion would suck anyway.
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