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    Posted: June 02 2010 at 20:10
I took the idea to create this topic when i first listen, last week, the band Random Hold. Well, people general associate the "decandence"of prog in early 80´s music with the "rise" of punk and new wave scene. So, punk, for its "simple musical proposal" is seen as a antagonism of "prog virtuosism", wich makes a fusion of the genres improbable. But, back to Random Hold, i have to say thats not a fantastic band, but makes me think about that fusion. I dont know if u have listen to Random Hold, but it is actually a fusion of Post Punk with elements of prog (peter gabriel made an intro for the live album).

I´d like to ask you wich bands do you may consider a fusion of punk and prog.

I remember also that some critcs reviews consider some of the Peter Hammil´s solo albuns, such as Nadir´s Big Chance a kind of proto punk influence.
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Hawkwind was kind of punky and an influence on the punk movement....
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Yeah! Punk-Prog-Rock-Heavy-Postmodern-Art-Proto-Neo-Retro-Minimalistic-Psychedelic!
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Uz Jsme Doma, definitely.
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Cardiacs are the godfather of the 'pronk' sound (=punk+prog)
 
They are also my favourite band
 
ever.
 
Sing to God part 1 & 2 is also my all time favourite album.
 
Check em out! recently all their albums were uploaded on Itunes.
 
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Cardiacs are fine. Sometimes. Pronk almost rhymes with drunk, I think that is the state of mind they works best :)
 
 
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The Cure's "Faith" album is quite space-rocky and psychedelic. By the way it's a really great album, one of the few "simple" albums that has magic...
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The Boredoms have a punk aesthetic. And Iceburn (who are not on the site but definitely should be) started out as a hardcore outfit with horns and got increasingly RIO/Jazz-fusiony and generally wierd and spastic.
 
Also there's a punkish band called Titus Andronicus who just did a concept album about the civil war called The Monitor. Ends with a 14 minute song called The Battle Of Hampton Roads which is very prog, even has a bagpipe segment.
 
The elephant in the room is Green Day's last two albums which were both concepts. American Idiot has two 9 minute songs, both quite proggy with multiple movements, Jesus Of Suburbia and Homecoming.
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Originally posted by Falx Falx wrote:

Uz Jsme Doma, definitely.


Oh yeah, taking the best from both Punk and according Prog genres into raw, wild performance. With even weirder lyrics, which most of you won't (sadly) understand.
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Killing Joke is the best example I got
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Originally posted by Marty McFly Marty McFly wrote:

Originally posted by Falx Falx wrote:

Uz Jsme Doma, definitely.

Oh yeah, taking the best from both Punk and according Prog genres into raw, wild performance. With even weirder lyrics, which most of you won't (sadly) understand.

I don't understand them, but they have English translations on their website Smile

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