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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 25 2010 at 17:19
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Originally posted by CryoftheCarrots CryoftheCarrots wrote:

RawksStill bangin me 'ead at 50.

Why this band have never made it big mainstream is beyond me.They appeal to all ages/sexes.My biggest problem with PT is I keep buying more and more!


Yeah, I've got the whole studio catalog, a live DVD, EPs, T-shirts, no bumper stickers at the moment. LOL
Why PT hasn't made it big mainstream?  I think it's against the rules for prog bands to make it big mainstream these days.
Hehe. Its not just PT. I have all the NoMan/Blackfield/Steven Wilson,A few Bass Communion, ExWiseHeads,John Wesley,Theo Travis ! It goes on...
I have seen PT live twice,both times we had to travel half way across the country because they didn't come to our city.Took the wife the first time and we loved it -good crowd.Second time I took my son and he loved it too - huge crowd all ages and a LOT more women.My guess is that everyone that saw them the first time brought their partners for the second show a couple of years later.It was actually rather packed and next time they would probably require a bigger venue.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 25 2010 at 17:19
Originally posted by Roland113 Roland113 wrote:

In all honesty, "The Incident" debuted at 24 on the Billboard chart.  Yeah, I realize that it was mostly fanboys buying the CD the day it came out, but still, that's a pretty good showing, especially for a prog band.  I expect the next one to be bigger, possibly even the heralded 'breakthrough' album.  Once that happens...well, I can only imagine "Anesthetize" being played in an arena through a billion dollar sound system while a multi million dollar stage / light show goes on a-la a Genesis or Rush show...I for one can't wait.

The Incident did actually put in a pretty valiant chart showing, yeah. As you say, I suspect it may have been fanboys buying them up as soon as it came out (I got mine the day it hit the shelvesLOL), but number 24. That is an impressive effort, when you consider their first album to chart on the Billboard 200 (Deadwing) wallowed away in the lower echelons of the 100s. 

This tells us that either they are gaining many new fans, and the word of mouth is spreading; or that the existing fans are getting even more rabid, and ordering 20 copies each instead of one, and distributing them from the rooftops! LOL

So if the Incident got that high, the next album may finally be the one to crack into the top twenty. 

One suspects all it would take for the kids to pick up on PT is if Roadrunner managed to get a few tracks into a Guitar Hero game.TongueLOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 25 2010 at 17:21
Originally posted by CryoftheCarrots CryoftheCarrots wrote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by CryoftheCarrots CryoftheCarrots wrote:

RawksStill bangin me 'ead at 50.

Why this band have never made it big mainstream is beyond me.They appeal to all ages/sexes.My biggest problem with PT is I keep buying more and more!


Yeah, I've got the whole studio catalog, a live DVD, EPs, T-shirts, no bumper stickers at the moment. LOL
Why PT hasn't made it big mainstream?  I think it's against the rules for prog bands to make it big mainstream these days.
Hehe. Its not just PT. I have all the NoMan/Blackfield/Steven Wilson,A few Bass Communion, ExWiseHeads,John Wesley,Theo Travis ! It goes on...
I have seen PT live twice,both times we had to travel half way across the country because they didn't come to our city.Took the wife the first time and we loved it -good crowd.Second time I took my son and he loved it too - huge crowd all ages and a LOT more women.My guess is that everyone that saw them the first time brought their partners for the second show a couple of years later.It was actually rather packed and next time they would probably require a bigger venue.
 If I wear a PT tshirt and someone asks me who they are, I reply "the best band you've never heard!"
 

Yeah I collect all of PTs side projects as well. It can be expensive being a PT fanboy.Embarrassed 

I wear my PT shirt all the time, providing free advertising for the band, doing my part Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 25 2010 at 17:27
^I still need to get some Bass Communion; other than that, I've worked through as much of PT's discog as realistically possible, all of Blackfield's, about 2/3's of no-man's, SW's solo album and all the Cover Versions, and the IEM boxset is on order...

Feel like such a fanboy to think about all of the stuff I have from one man, but it's all been really high quality stuff. No complaints as far as disappointment or anything like it... Other than extreme aural pleasure
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 25 2010 at 20:30
Originally posted by progkidjoel progkidjoel wrote:

^Other than extreme aural pleasure
That says it all.Clap
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2010 at 03:30
I have no Bass Communion stuff, I have tried to give it a chance but it just isn't for me. I have the Best Of No-Man, but apart from the last track (which has an amazing guitar solo from Robert Fripp) on the first disc I don't really care for the rest. I actually think SW has a better voice than the guy singing. Blackfield 1 & 2 are great, for anyone wondering what Blackfield is about, imagine Stupid Dream/Lightbulb Sun era PT, minus the proggier/heavier moments.
 
Really looking forward to IEM as I have no idea what it's going to sound like, hopefully I won't be dissapointed.
 
Great to hear feedback about the different age groups by the way.
 
To all those of you who seem to be a little upset that PT aren't mainstream, 1. SW has always said that he didn't want PT to be mainstream 2. It's a good thing that they aren't because ticket prices would double, if not triple, and you'd have loads of annoying people going on about them who have only heard the latest 'breakthrough' album, and when you try to explain that they have actually been going for 20 years they just look at you funny, similar to what happened when the Kings Of Leon sold out whith there awful 4th album that every indie kid and his/her mum loves.
 
I like PT the way they are because you will ALWAYS be able to introduce them to people knowing that they will be amazed at how good they are, puzzled as to why they have never heard of them before.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2010 at 06:56
^Yeah, I do like that the venues are more intimate, and you get a better view of the band at a more reasonable price. I think it may be too late for them to become mega mainstream, anyway. How many bands became household names after 20 years of existence? I certainly wouldn't want the Kings of Leon crowd catching on to PT. The Radiohead and Tool crowd, yes. 

I haven't heard any Bass Communion yet. The Blackfield I have heard is very good. No Man aren't bad, but I agree that Steven has a better singing voice than Tim Bowness. I might get the limited IEM boxset, but I don't know what to expect, like yourself. I haven't heard a single note of IEM. Do I take a chance because I like Steven Wilson's other work? Maybe.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2010 at 07:01

Bowness is a great singer, just a little off-putting because of his dramatic vocals.  It took me a while to get used to him, but now I love Schoolyard Ghosts.... a really fine album. 

 I must see PT live soon!
    
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2010 at 07:23
Well from what I have read Kashmir, the IEM stuff is supposed to be a similar sound to PT's more spacey work. The 1st album came out shortly after Signify. There's no vocals, just long jams. Sounds interesting enough to me. I know what you mean about taking a chance on it, but from my experience with Wilson releated punts, there's about an 80% of it being worth the risk. The Sky Moves Sideways was my 1st PT purchase and I'd not listened to any PT songs before that, and I wasn't dissapointed with Blackfield or his solo album, as I went about purchasing them in the same way having not listened to any songs from either effort.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2010 at 07:40
I might just take a risk on it, yeah. I enjoy pretty much all of SW's other work, so I'm bound to like it.

When PT moved away from psych/space rock and into song-based structures, IEM took that over, apparently. Or so I've heard.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2010 at 18:19

Just received ANESTHETIZE! ... it's so sleek and beautiful, but I can't watch it yet... I hate final exams week...Cry

Anyone else receive/watch it yet? What do you think about it?
    
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2010 at 01:07
on the pineapple thief site, there's this thing that you can draw your favourite album artwork on a post-it, scan it in and it get's published. here is steven wilson, anyone recognize it?

http://www.kscopemusic.com/thepineapplethief/someonehereismissing/images/post-it-gallery/23.jpg

http://www.kscopemusic.com/thepineapplethief/someonehereismissing/album-sketches.php
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2010 at 01:13
No idea of Steven's, but Danny Cavanagh's is of Sigur Ros's Takk artwork.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2010 at 01:48
Originally posted by idiotPrayer idiotPrayer wrote:

on the pineapple thief site, there's this thing that you can draw your favourite album artwork on a post-it, scan it in and it get's published. here is steven wilson, anyone recognize it?

http://www.kscopemusic.com/thepineapplethief/someonehereismissing/images/post-it-gallery/23.jpg

http://www.kscopemusic.com/thepineapplethief/someonehereismissing/album-sketches.php
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2010 at 02:41
anyone else than me think that '' Flicker '' from The Incident is PT's best song so far. it's just the perfect middle between space/psychadelic and semi-metal/rock prog of their diffrent albums. I hope they'll keep goin that way
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2010 at 02:47
In all honesty, no, but it is one of the better tracks from that album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2010 at 02:53
^ For me, Flicker is easily the best of the tracks on disc two of The Incident.  It really is gorgeous, those harmonies are melancholic and beautiful. 
 
I also saw one insane post somewhere on PA stating that you can't hear Barbieri on The Incident, that was part of the put-down of the album.  Well, just listen to his keyboards on Flicker, stunningly gorgeous.
 
I know what you mean, hints of the old PT in there, although I reckon there's plenty of those elsewhere on the rest of The Incident too.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2010 at 02:53
Steven's isn't the first Black Sabbath album cover by any chance is it?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2010 at 02:55
I can hear Barbieri all over the Incident. He has his own instrumental track (The Yellow Windows of the Evening Train) for god's sake! I don't get where those criticisms are coming from. And yes, Flicker is a very lovely song. Barbieri wrote Black Dahlia too, IIRC, another beauty of a track.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2010 at 05:03
Speaking of what direction should PT take... I would like to be surprised! instead of having them satisfy our expectations. Just like they did with The Incident Heart
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