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Stonebolt
Forum Groupie Joined: May 04 2010 Status: Offline Points: 91 |
Posted: May 07 2010 at 23:45 | ||
It's just a stage persona. Do yu like KISS? Do their costumes ruin it for you?
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A Person
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 10 2008 Location: __ Status: Offline Points: 65760 |
Posted: May 07 2010 at 23:51 | ||
To be honest, a bit. Not much to ruin, but that is my opinion. |
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rogerthat
Prog Reviewer Joined: September 03 2006 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 9869 |
Posted: May 07 2010 at 23:54 | ||
I don't really understand - whether it's Fish or KISS, whoever - how and why costumes come to play any role in appreciating music anyway. Um, music is meant to be listened to, right? Don't like the outfits? Just look away and listen, shouldn't be hard. How does it concern anyone if the costumes help the artist get more fans than he/she deserves for the music?
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WalterDigsTunes
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 11 2007 Location: SanDiegoTijuana Status: Offline Points: 4373 |
Posted: May 08 2010 at 00:16 | ||
Bravo! Say "NO!" to new music and "YES!" to pre-1989 heroes! |
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Peter
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Posted: May 08 2010 at 00:33 | ||
Now dig this, Walter:
Dunno -- just thought of crazy, uber-talented former East-German opera fraulein Nina H, tonight. Ever hear her band Spliff (sans Nina)? Cool stuff!
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
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stonebeard
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 27 2005 Location: NE Indiana Status: Offline Points: 28057 |
Posted: May 08 2010 at 01:01 | ||
I have a friend who says GaGa is s modern David Bowie/Ziggy Stardust....
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Kestrel
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 18 2008 Location: Minnesota Status: Offline Points: 512 |
Posted: May 08 2010 at 01:59 | ||
I don't mind Gaga at all - I just find the actual synth music kind of boring. If that were amped up a bit I would probably listen to her quite frequently.
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harmonium.ro
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 18 2008 Location: Anna Calvi Status: Offline Points: 22989 |
Posted: May 08 2010 at 05:09 | ||
Just wanting to say that your whole demonstration is ridiculous RoyDude, and that your attitude is what makes all proggers look like childish elitist snobs (some are, but not all ).
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Dean
Special Collaborator Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
Posted: May 08 2010 at 07:35 | ||
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What?
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zappaholic
Forum Senior Member Joined: March 24 2006 Location: flyover country Status: Offline Points: 2822 |
Posted: May 08 2010 at 07:44 | ||
Like I said upthread - SHE'S TROLLIN' ALL Y'ALL.
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"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." -- H.L. Mencken
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Marty McFly
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Posted: May 08 2010 at 08:54 | ||
Radio GaGa
Radio GaGa Lady oh Gaga Lady oh Gaga Ahem |
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There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless,"
-Andyman1125 on Lulu Even my |
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RoyFairbank
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 07 2008 Location: Somewhere Status: Offline Points: 1072 |
Posted: May 08 2010 at 10:01 | ||
you really do have the worst avatar there's just something creepy and sad about it |
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Dellinger
Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: June 18 2009 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 12724 |
Posted: May 08 2010 at 21:27 | ||
We may not understand it, but unfortunatly in the Pop world the "looks" of the arstists is more important than their talent. Who cares if they can't sing and there's about no music in the song, as long as they are Pretty, handsome, and Hot, so they can put their pictures in the CD cover and have them dance on the promotional video. |
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rogerthat
Prog Reviewer Joined: September 03 2006 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 9869 |
Posted: May 08 2010 at 21:34 | ||
I do know that people place more importance to looks in pop. But it's not just pop, whether it's metal or prog, you will find a lot of people a bit too concerned about how the artists look and dress up. It's especially ridiculous for a prog fan to be bothered about it because prog is not about image, whereas imagery, for better or worse, is a big deal in metal. |
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RoyFairbank
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 07 2008 Location: Somewhere Status: Offline Points: 1072 |
Posted: May 08 2010 at 21:41 | ||
The big point is that in Prog imagery reinforces a progressive presentation, in pop it reinforces a regressive presentation. You can repeat this quote endlessly onward |
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rogerthat
Prog Reviewer Joined: September 03 2006 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 9869 |
Posted: May 08 2010 at 21:50 | ||
What pray is this crucial role that imagery plays in Red album, enlighten us. Edited by rogerthat - May 08 2010 at 21:50 |
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RoyFairbank
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Posted: May 08 2010 at 22:00 | ||
Wrong. There doesn't have to be imagery. I didn't say that. But when there is, it is to reinforce a progressive form of music. Obviously, a Pink Floyd concert is about the music, despite the complex imagery. Pop uses imagery entirely differently in relation to music. Semi-obvious edit: that is, in relation to music that has no substance to it. The lasers themselves have the same technology. Edited by RoyFairbank - May 08 2010 at 22:03 |
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rogerthat
Prog Reviewer Joined: September 03 2006 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 9869 |
Posted: May 08 2010 at 22:04 | ||
These are just your perceptions and opinions, you know. There are prog fans who don't like Gabriel or Fish's costumes either and I think a few posters have made a good case above for why Lady Gaga's image is not so completely unrelated to the music as you suggest. Taking your arguments seriously requires assuming that everybody who listens to pop is empty in the top rack and that is quite a ridiculous assumption to say the least. |
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RoyFairbank
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 07 2008 Location: Somewhere Status: Offline Points: 1072 |
Posted: May 08 2010 at 22:14 | ||
Its not about the music. Its a about the surrounding problems, the social problems. Lady Gaga - it has nothing to do with her as an individual or even her music as such - she is part of an exploitative set up which takes advantage of the masses and shovels sub-par cultural substitutes down their throats very lucratively. She is in the pop music business and a part of all the profit making and garbage production, in fact one of its "faces." That's a problem. Prog was strangled by this machine, but even Prog isn't the solution. What is needed- a new culture on serious, humanitarian foundations. Pop isn't either. Time to tear the whole capitalist edifice down. A few generations from now all that is made today, even the music this site covers, will be seen as false and backward. At the moment however, we can choose between the product of a cultural upswing in the 1960s and 70s, or the product of a declining era. That's prog vs. pop to me. |
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UndercoverBoy
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 10 2009 Location: Tulsa, OK, U.S. Status: Offline Points: 5148 |
Posted: May 08 2010 at 22:16 | ||
All Rock music is Pop. Discuss.
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