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Points: 4675 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2010 at 11:06
Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:



New Progfolkers Faun Fables are brilliant. Love their latest EP, A Table Forgotten:



Wow! That sounds good! ... and they're American. Thanks for sharing!
Well actually it's quite hard to find a prog folk band that is not enjoyable. The only one I've been disappointed in so far is Forest.
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Originally posted by rocktopus rocktopus wrote:

What's with the hurry with deciding what's best? The best stuff don't reveal itself through one impatient listen. Get over you desire to make hasty desicions and listen properly.  

What hasty decisions are you talking about? I wrote that I didn't find bildar as interesting as vittras visor and that the use of ashes didn't impress me. I even wrote that it was based on one listen. I haven't decided that it is so. Of course not. I communicated an experience, not decisions. I listen to a lot of music - and I am very much aware of how to do it. Certainly I will listen a lot to the use of ashes and bildar in the nearest future with an open mind. very open.  

If I am to give a piece of advise, I would advise you not to 'out of the blue' interpret what you think people mean when it's not supported by the actual words they use. You even assumed I was impatient while listening - how did you reach that conclusion? 

By the way, these german favorites of mine deserve a mention
 
 
Emtidi - saat (1972)
Amon düül - paradieswärts düül (1970)
Emtidi - s/t (1970)
Hölderlin - hölderlin's traum (1972)
Witthüser und westrupp - der jesus pilz (1971)
Bernd witthüser - lieder von vampiren nonnen und toten (1970)
 


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Points: 8138 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2010 at 12:39

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You may like the german Renaissance as well, the band called Rebekka :
 
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thanks for the recommendation
I don't like renaissance though. This is somewhat okay, a bit too symphonic and too beautiful though. I'ts liftet too much above ground yet not very psychedelic or 'acid' - it seems a bit pompous to me.. 

I forgot this:
Bröselmaschine - s/t (1971)


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Originally posted by Paravion Paravion wrote:

Originally posted by rocktopus rocktopus wrote:

What's with the hurry with deciding what's best? The best stuff don't reveal itself through one impatient listen. Get over you desire to make hasty desicions and listen properly.  

What hasty decisions are you talking about? I wrote that I didn't find bildar as interesting as vittras visor and that the use of ashes didn't impress me. I even wrote that it was based on one listen. I haven't decided that it is so. Of course not. I communicated an experience, not decisions. I listen to a lot of music - and I am very much aware of how to do it. Certainly I will listen a lot to the use of ashes and bildar in the nearest future with an open mind. very open.  

If I am to give a piece of advise, I would advise you not to 'out of the blue' interpret what you think people mean when it's not supported by the actual words they use. You even assumed I was impatient while listening - how did you reach that conclusion? 



First telling us that One Nation Underground is Pearls Before Swine's best and a clear favorite of yours. Turns out you only know two albums, and not the one reccomended here. Then you find it on some blog, listen, and come back some hours later and says it didn't impress you, it was okay, but nothing special. (Too heavy on words).

This is about Carol of Harvest, I guess?
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The lyrics didn't interest me and I did't pay much attention to them. They seemed too unearthbound to be authentic in an earthbound folk sense. Mostly, I like concrete lyrical content in folk music. The lyrics here seemed vague, general and way too metaphorical.  

But I never pay attention to lyrics in prog music. And I don't mind.


Wtf? Its no wonder I misunderstand you. You don't make any sense.





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There's not much to understand...  I reckon that the bit about the lyrics isn't crystal clear - of course not, as I wrote, I wasn't paying attention - but it makes perfect sense to me.

I didn't suppose that writing what I think and not think about this or that record/band would be taken this seriously. But I'll try to explain myself. 
By saying one nation undergroud is my favorite PBS record I'm not implying that I have analysed it and reached some sort of final conclusion or decision. I'm also not implying that I've done thorough comparison with all the other PBS records.

I do understand, though, that the statement could be understood as such and that I could have expressed myself in a more tentative manner. 

The statement is correctly interpreted as "of the PBS records I know, ONU is my favorite". I assumed it to be obvious that the readers would assume that this was the case and not read it as an attempt to express some universally valid statement -  my bad I guess.

As to why i think ONU is the best I honestly can't say. I can't explain music and wouldn't want to. To me music is mystery - and that is one of the reasons why I like it that much. I care about how I experience music - I think about what it is that gives me the best experiences - some things I'm aware of, most of them not. I don't know what good music is made of and what makes good music good - I just have some vague ideas and some random criteria for selection (that changes and developes all the time). But the important thing is that I can tell whether I'm having a good or a bad experience. And that's really all I need..

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Originally posted by Paravion Paravion wrote:

Originally posted by rocktopus rocktopus wrote:

What's with the hurry with deciding what's best? The best stuff don't reveal itself through one impatient listen. Get over you desire to make hasty desicions and listen properly.  

What hasty decisions are you talking about? I wrote that I didn't find bildar as interesting as vittras visor and that the use of ashes didn't impress me. I even wrote that it was based on one listen. I haven't decided that it is so. Of course not. I communicated an experience, not decisions. I listen to a lot of music - and I am very much aware of how to do it. Certainly I will listen a lot to the use of ashes and bildar in the nearest future with an open mind. very open.  

If I am to give a piece of advise, I would advise you not to 'out of the blue' interpret what you think people mean when it's not supported by the actual words they use. You even assumed I was impatient while listening - how did you reach that conclusion? 

By the way, these german favorites of mine deserve a mention
 
 
Emtidi - saat (1972)
Amon düül - paradieswärts düül (1970)
Emtidi - s/t (1970)
Hölderlin - hölderlin's traum (1972)
Witthüser und westrupp - der jesus pilz (1971)
Bernd witthüser - lieder von vampiren nonnen und toten (1970)
 
Do any of your german favourites feature vocalist/keyboardist Jurgen Dollase?
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not the ones listed
this does:
Walter Wegmüller - Tarot (1973)
also a german favorite - amazing album! - but not folk.


then there's wallenstein - but you're probably familiar with them since you know of jürgen dollase
 
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Originally posted by Paravion Paravion wrote:

not the ones listed
this does:
Walter Wegmüller - Tarot (1973)
also a german favorite - amazing album! - but not folk.


then there's wallenstein - but you're probably familiar with them since you know of jürgen dollase
 
thanks for the Tarot reference-i know,have, and passionately love all the Wallenstein albums up to Blue Eyed Boys-i am now trying to collect any of Jurgen Dollase"s other seventies recordings-so far, i have the Sergiu Golowin one, as well as the debut Cosmic Jokers album, and just bought Warpurgis Queen of Saba today-Jurgen Dollase is so consistently great, that i am a completist when it comes to him
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Tarot is extremely recommended. Here's is a rough transcript of the first track, 'der narr' where he introduces the musicians. It's a bit hard to hear because he's speaking in a very thick accent.  
"Ladies and gentlemen it's a great pleasure for me to present to you the fantastic superest greatest rock show you ever heard. We want you to come with us through the voyage through the time. Come on. Clap your hands stamp your feets and take through rythm. And while you take it I present to you the musicians. In the (?theory?) you'll hear the master of (?tabs?) the genious of keyboards the one and only mister wallenstein Jürgen Dollase. Sweet. Now from berlin we got two of the best guitarist of the cosmic music (?the ash ras?) and here the first mister (?world wide?/?wah-wah?) Hartmut Enke. The second guitarist and friend of Hartmut is Manuel Göttsching. And now listen to the drums - there's sitting Harald Grosskopf. Netherland is the home of the bassplayer, the german (??) Jerry Berkers. And i'll start to present the musicsoundist the multisound Walter Waltersen F. A. W. Westrupp. From berlin also too it's mister cosmic music Klaus Schulze. Ah ja. And last artist the master of (?voice/voyage?) the man from the wide hill the man from switzerland Walter Wegmüller."

Great album-opener and what a line-up! And what an introduction. Pure acid. 


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GRrr

You people need to stop posting all these albums I can't afford, what, are you trying to make me starve here?
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Tea & Symphony An Asylum For The Musically Insane . A flawed masterpiece, but listen to Terror in My Soul and Armchair Theatre
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Originally posted by Paravion Paravion wrote:

Tarot is extremely recommended. Here's is a rough transcript of the first track, 'der narr' where he introduces the musicians. It's a bit hard to hear because he's speaking in a very thick accent.  
"Ladies and gentlemen it's a great pleasure for me to present to you the fantastic superest greatest rock show you ever heard. We want you to come with us through the voyage through the time. Come on. Clap your hands stamp your feets and take through rythm. And while you take it I present to you the musicians. In the (?theory?) you'll hear the master of (?tabs?) the genious of keyboards the one and only mister wallenstein Jürgen Dollase. Sweet. Now from berlin we got two of the best guitarist of the cosmic music (?the ash ras?) and here the first mister (?world wide?/?wah-wah?) Hartmut Enke. The second guitarist and friend of Hartmut is Manuel Göttsching. And now listen to the drums - there's sitting Harald Grosskopf. Netherland is the home of the bassplayer, the german (??) Jerry Berkers. And i'll start to present the musicsoundist the multisound Walter Waltersen F. A. W. Westrupp. From berlin also too it's mister cosmic music Klaus Schulze. Ah ja. And last artist the master of (?voice/voyage?) the man from the wide hill the man from switzerland Walter Wegmüller."

Great album-opener and what a line-up! And what an introduction. Pure acid. 
Tarot sounds like a must-have for me-thanks!
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Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:

Tea & Symphony An Asylum For The Musically Insane . A flawed masterpiece, but listen to Terror in My Soul and Armchair Theatre


Jo Sago, although it doesn't have as good of songs as Asylum, is a better album overall IMO.  It's very entertaining
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Originally posted by HTCF HTCF wrote:

GRrr

You people need to stop posting all these albums I can't afford, what, are you trying to make me starve here?

You're still young. I'm very content with the various music blogs around, you can find almost anything (all the albums mentioned here) goto captaincrawl.com and search. Unless it'll be in conflict with your morals and ethics. As a vinyl fanatic, mp3s (or CDs for that sake) are of no real value, but quite a good way to discover music and decide what to look for. Strange as it might be, I record (some of the) albums onto tape, using this magnificent device of mine.
It's much more easy to relate to music, when the sound has been manifested on some physical and analogue format and not just a combination of zeros and ones. Visible rotation is essential as well...  


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Originally posted by HTCF HTCF wrote:

Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:

Tea & Symphony An Asylum For The Musically Insane . A flawed masterpiece, but listen to Terror in My Soul and Armchair Theatre


Jo Sago, although it doesn't have as good of songs as Asylum, is a better album overall IMO.  It's very entertaining



Hm, really? Jo Sago?  I thought it was almost as bad follow-up as Comus' To Keep From Crying.
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Grateful Dead
 
 
 
Santana
 
 
 
 
Quintenessence
 
 
 
Fairport Convention
 
 
Pentangle
 
 
 
Donovan
 
 
 
Meredith Monk
 
 
 
My Morning Jacket
 
 


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Originally posted by HTCF HTCF wrote:

GRrr

You people need to stop posting all these albums I can't afford, what, are you trying to make me starve here?


Tell me about it.  But I'll gladly starve if only I could get my hands on them.
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