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Topic: progressive/psychedelic/acid-folk top 10Posted By: Paravion
Subject: progressive/psychedelic/acid-folk top 10
Date Posted: May 03 2010 at 17:54
In the epic thread I claimed that this was my top ten favourite progressive/psychedelic/acid-folk albums.
clive's original band - spirit of love (1971)
simon finn - pass the distance (1970)
comus - first utterance (1971)
trader horne - morning way (1970)
isb - hangman's beautiful daughter (1968)
bread love and dreams - amaryllis (1971)
panama limited jug band - s/t (1969)
famous jug band - sunshine possibilities (1969)
dr. strangely strange - kip of the serenes (1969)
forest - s/t (1969)
What I exactly mean by progressive/psychedelic/acid-folk is rather unclear and the referential range is rather big.
Applying non-music attributes, such as 'year', 'country', 'record-label', 'producer' etc. normally narrows it down a bit and I normally use the term to refer to folk-music produced in england/scotland/ireland in the years 1966 (isb's debut) to 197? (let's just say 1975 for convenience sake).
Of the three parts in the label "progressive/psychedelic/acid" I can say the following:
Progressive (here) means that the music has to be non-mainstream (not likely to be played on national radio)
Psychedelic has to do with drugs or a 'druggy-sound'. (Isb sounds very druggy fairport convention doesn't*)
Acid has to do with an 'beyond-category-out-there-weirdness' that is usually also druggy but a bit more than that.
These are not necessary and sufficient conditions for the lists that you want to post. Just vague guidelines.. I hope you see where I'm going.. The only strict rules are: the British iles, years 1966-75, folk of some strange sort (this means that jethro tull is also included). And not too many albums by same bands plz. Looking forward to see some lists..
By the way - runner ups for my list:
vashti bunyan - just another diamod day (1970) (bordeline case)
fresh maggots - s/t (1971) (that's fuzzy)
farport convention - liege and lief (1969) (another borderline case)
*fairport's debut with judy dyble is quite psychedelic, I admit - but in their prime they toned that aspect down a bit.
Replies: Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: May 03 2010 at 18:18
What about Incredible String Band - The 5000 Spirits or the Layers of the Onion
Posted By: Paravion
Date Posted: May 03 2010 at 18:21
Sure, but in making lists I normally list one lp per band. I like hangman better..
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: May 03 2010 at 18:27
Woop somehow missed that on your list
Carry on.
I agree that it's hard to define what falls under this category. A lot of similar music is either not folky enough, or not psychedelic enough, to quite fit on such a list
Posted By: Paravion
Date Posted: May 03 2010 at 18:31
Don't worry too much about that - if you know and like albums that are folky and strange (or in another sense deviant) just post it...
Posted By: ClemofNazareth
Date Posted: May 03 2010 at 19:11
Here's a few more:
Nya Ljudbolaget - Nya Ljudbolaget Carol of Harvest - Carol of Harvest Espers - Espers I & II Faun Fables - Family Album Justine - Justine Midwinter - The Waters of Sweet Sorrow Pearls Before Swine - The Use of Ashes Katalena - Babje Leto Ramases - Space Hymns Smell of Incense - Through the Gates of Deeper Slumber The Third Estate - Years Before the Wine Voice of the Seven Woods - Voice of the Seven Woods
------------- "Peace is the only battle worth waging."
Albert Camus
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: May 03 2010 at 19:15
Yeah, Espers I and II are great
Tomorrow - Tomorrow (1968) - not as folky, but fantastic
Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: May 03 2010 at 21:16
Andromeda-Andromeda (the UK one with John du Cann)- the record is totally awesome!
Posted By: Paravion
Date Posted: May 04 2010 at 06:51
ClemofNazareth wrote:
Here's a few more:
Nya Ljudbolaget - Nya Ljudbolaget Carol of Harvest - Carol of Harvest Espers - Espers I & II Faun Fables - Family Album Justine - Justine Midwinter - The Waters of Sweet Sorrow Pearls Before Swine - The Use of Ashes Katalena - Babje Leto Ramases - Space Hymns Smell of Incense - Through the Gates of Deeper Slumber The Third Estate - Years Before the Wine Voice of the Seven Woods - Voice of the Seven Woods.
I know little of these. A bit more info (year, country..) would be nice. I would say, though, that pearls before swine's best album is one nation underground (1967). A clear favourite of mine.
< ="-" ="text/; =utf-8">But americans play folk differently from the brits - not saying that they don't do it properly, just different. Two quite different roots. I wasn't really considering american folk music in my list - but why not..
Also, I must admit that titles like 'voice of seven woods' 'the waters of sweet sorrow' and 'through the gates of deeper slumber' are a bit of a turn-off. I mean, browsing through piles of LPs - they wouldn't catch my attention at all. (the cover art could make up for that though - any naked women?) 'nya ljudbolaget' sounds cool and brings to mind my favourite swedish acid-folk record - it's really gentle and haunting.
Turid - vittars visor (1971)
She sings ''I'll sing you a ring of flowers/to put in hair/so you'll be fair/for the ladies" in a very fragile voice. That's nice.
(what about Kebnerkaise? I don't like what I've heard (kebnerkaise III))
Songs about putting/having stuff in the hair usually indicates a good acid-folk lp.
This brings me to another fave in the category:
Tyrannosaurus rex - my people were fair and had sky in their hair... (1968)
Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: May 04 2010 at 07:32
Paravion wrote:
I would say, though, that pearls before swine's best album is one nation underground (1967). A clear favourite of mine.
Not many PBS-fans will agree with you. Use of Ashes is one of my favorite albums. Have you actually heard it? After having purchased that and Balaklava, One Nation Undergroud was a little disappointing to me. Tom Rapp hadn't found his own voice or approach yet, on his debut. Too Dylan-sounding.
Paravion wrote:
(the cover art could make up for that though - any naked
women?) 'nya ljudbolaget' sounds cool and brings to mind my favourite
swedish acid-folk record - it's really gentle and haunting.
Then, how could you fail to mention Turid's far superiour Bilder? With a drawing of her naked and all?
(And Nya Ljudbolaget is beautiful folk/worldfolk)
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Paravion wrote:
Turid - vittars visor (1971)
She sings ''I'll sing
you a ring of flowers/to put in hair/so you'll be fair/for the ladies"
in a very fragile voice. That's nice.
Sorry for all that. Here's ten of my absolute faves:
Turid - Bilder Catherine Ribeiro +2Biz Pearls Before Swine - Use of Ashes Incredible String Band - Hangman's Beautiful Daughter Spirogyra - St. Radigunds Nya Ljudbolaget - st Extradition - Hush Zeit - Un giorno in una piazza del mediterraneo (Wyrd folk?) Daughters of Albion - st Perry Leopold - Christian Lucifer
Just google the names, and you'll find the info you need.
Btw: I'm tired of mentioning Comus, but its at no. 1 forever.
------------- Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes
Find a fly and eat his eye
But don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
Posted By: Paravion
Date Posted: May 04 2010 at 08:22
Rocktopus wrote:
Not many PBS-fans will agree with you. Use of Ashes is one of my favorite albums. Have you actually heard it? After having purchased that and Balaklava, One Nation Undergroud was a little disappointing to me. Tom Rapp hadn't found his own voice or approach yet, on his debut. Too Dylan-sounding.
No I haven't heard it. I only have ONU, balaklawa and these things too. Of those three ONU is a clear fave, not a huge fan though. My experience is though that ONU is the most celebrated and name-dropped.
Rocktopus wrote:
Then, how could you fail to mention Turid's far superiour Bilder? With a drawing of her naked and all? (And Nya Ljudbolaget is beautiful folk/worldfolk)
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Wow! Thank you! I was only little aware of it's existence - most certainly a future investment! I stumbled across vittras visor by accident and enjoyed it very much immediately.
Rocktopus wrote:
Sorry for all that. Here's ten of my absolute faves:
Turid - Bilder Catherine Ribeiro +2Biz Pearls Before Swine - Use of Ashes Incredible String Band - Hangman's Beautiful Daughter Spirogyra - St. Radigunds Nya Ljudbolaget - st Extradition - Hush Zeit - Un giorno in una piazza del mediterraneo (Wyrd folk?) Daughters of Albion - st Perry Leopold - Christian Lucifer
Just google the names, and you'll find the info you need.
Btw: I'm tired of mentioning Comus, but its at no. 1 forever.
thanks..
Posted By: ClemofNazareth
Date Posted: May 04 2010 at 11:42
Paravion wrote:
ClemofNazareth wrote:
Here's a few more:
Nya Ljudbolaget - Nya Ljudbolaget Carol of Harvest - Carol of Harvest Espers - Espers I & II Faun Fables - Family Album Justine - Justine Midwinter - The Waters of Sweet Sorrow Pearls Before Swine - The Use of Ashes Katalena - Babje Leto Ramases - Space Hymns Smell of Incense - Through the Gates of Deeper Slumber The Third Estate - Years Before the Wine Voice of the Seven Woods - Voice of the Seven Woods.
I know little of these. A bit more info (year, country..) would be nice. I would say, though, that pearls before swine's best album is one nation underground (1967). A clear favourite of mine.
But americans play folk differently from the brits - not saying that they don't do it properly, just different. Two quite different roots. I wasn't really considering american folk music in my list - but why not..
Also, I must admit that titles like 'voice of seven woods' 'the waters of sweet sorrow' and 'through the gates of deeper slumber' are a bit of a turn-off. I mean, browsing through piles of LPs - they wouldn't catch my attention at all. (the cover art could make up for that though - any naked women?) 'nya ljudbolaget' sounds cool and brings to mind my favourite swedish acid-folk record - it's really gentle and haunting.
You can look them all up here, but since I know most of the info anyway -
Nya Ljudbolaget - Nya Ljudbolaget (Sweden, 1980 - but I suspect recorded earlier) Carol of Harvest - Carol of Harvest (Germany, 1978 - probably the best example of acid folk ever) Espers - Espers I & II (U.S., 2003, 2006) Faun Fables - Family Album (U.S., 2004) Justine - Justine (UK/U.S., 1970) Midwinter - The Waters of Sweet Sorrow (UK, 1993 - but recorded much earlier) Pearls Before Swine - The Use of Ashes (U.S., 1970) Katalena - Babje Leto (Slovenia, 2004) Ramases - Space Hymns (UK, 1971) Smell of Incense - Through the Gates of Deeper Slumber (Norway, 1997 - a 'must-have' IMHO) The Third Estate - Years Before the Wine (U.S., 1976 - but recorded earlier) Voice of the Seven Woods - Voice of the Seven Woods (UK, 2007)
I wouldn't dismiss The Use of Ashes without listening to it. Like someone said above, this is probably Tom Rapp's finest work ever - original as opposed to his earlier Dylanesque sound, and outstanding lyrics.
I suppose U.S. prog acts may sound different than those of other countries (so do the Brits for that matter), but you can certainly hear an awful lot of European folk influence in groups like Faun Fables and Espers as well. Tom Rapp spent quite a bit of time in Norway before recording his early seventies albums and there is a lot of Flemish and French influence in that music. And there were several UK bands back in the 70s with embedded Americans who brought Appalachian and delta blues with them as well (Baby Whale, Justine). Many of the UK folk rock acts of the 60s and 70s were produced and/or managed by the American Joe Boyd (ISB, Dr Strangely Strange, Fairport Convention, Nick Drake), and those bands drew heavily from both the Boston-area folk scene (Muldaurs, Dylan) as well as West Coast acts like the Byrds, Jefferson Airplane and Mamas & the Papas. For me it all gets kind of muddled together after a while....
Paravion wrote:
This brings me to another fave in the category:
Tyrannosaurus rex - my people were fair and had sky in their hair... (1968)
I'm not a huge fan of Tyrannosaurus Rex (although to be fair I'm the one who added them to the Archives); but I agree this is probably the best of the four albums they recorded before Bolan went glam.
------------- "Peace is the only battle worth waging."
Albert Camus
Posted By: Paravion
Date Posted: May 04 2010 at 12:03
ClemofNazareth wrote:
I wouldn't dismiss The Use of Ashes without listenig to it.
I never did write one word about the use of ashes. I'll track it down and maybe reconsider which pearls before swine lp I like the most..
ClemofNazareth wrote:
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I suppose U.S. prog acts may sound different than those of other countries (so do the Brits for that matter)... And there were several UK bands back in the 70s with embedded Americans who brought Appalachian and delta blues with them as well (Baby Whale, Justine). Many of the UK folk rock acts of the 60s and 70s were produced and/or managed by the American Joe Boyd (ISB, Dr Strangely Strange, Fairport Convention, Nick Drake), and those bands drew heavily from both the Boston-area folk scene (Muldaurs, Dylan) as well as West Coast acts like the Byrds, Jefferson Airplane and Mamas & the Papas. For me it all gets kind of muddled together after a while....
I agree..
Posted By: Lizzy
Date Posted: May 04 2010 at 12:22
What a superb thread! There are so many albums listed here I haven't heard of before but will have to look into them a.s.a.p.
Some of my faves: Mellow Candle - Swaddling Songs Tudor Lodge - s/t Trees - In the Garden of Jane Delawney Tir Na Nog - A Tear and a Smile Spirogyra - Bells, Boots and Shambles The Pentangle - Basket of Light
------------- Property of Queen Productions...
Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: May 04 2010 at 15:20
Paravion wrote:
thanks..
You're welcome. Just like Vittras Visor, Turid's Bildar has never been reissued. Let me know if you can't find it anywhere.
Lizzy wrote:
Spirogyra - Bells, Boots and Shambles
Pentangle - Basket of Light
Could easily have included Bells, Boots.... myself, I love that and their debut equally. But St. Radigunds got more acid.
I've got a slight preference for Pentangle's Cruel Sister. Left them out maily because they have very little to do with acid/psych (same with Trees).
John Renbourn soloalbum The Enchanted Garden (the Richard Dadd painting underneath is the cover), might just be the the ultimate Pentangle album. Its got
Jacqui McShee on vocals, so it really sounds like their lost
masterpiece. Its got a more medieval feel, but so does my most of my
favorite Pentangle tracks.
New Progfolkers http://www.myspace.com/faunfablesmyspace - Faun Fables are brilliant. Love their latest EP, A Table Forgotten:
------------- Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes
Find a fly and eat his eye
But don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: May 04 2010 at 16:57
Red Chair Fadeaway is an excellent psychedelic folk band
------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: May 04 2010 at 17:00
espers and faun fables sound more neo folk (read : melancholic folk) than prog folk
------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
Posted By: Paravion
Date Posted: May 04 2010 at 17:22
I searched captaincrawl.com and found bildar, use of ashes and carol of harvest. Based on one sit-trough I don't find bildar as good as vittras visor - but certainly enjoyable.
Use of ashes didn't impress me, it was okay, but nothing special. It was too heavy on words..
Carol of harvest did catch my attention.
The first and the last track strike me as very proggy, they are long, have changes in mood and tempo and a slightly theatrical singing style. The instrumental sections are lovely weird - I enjoy the oscillator sound. The album, generally, is dominated by low frequencies in the bass and drum sound. That's obvious - but what I mean is that I miss a more 'airy' sound and I would have loved some more strings, flutes, percussion of various sorts and generally more acoustic instruments to complement the music in some parts.
< ="-" ="text/; =utf-8">The lyrics didn't interest me and I did't pay much attention to them. They seemed too unearthbound to be authentic in an earthbound folk sense. Mostly, I like concrete lyrical content in folk music. The lyrics here seemed vague, general and way too metaphorical.
But I never pay attention to lyrics in prog music. And I don't mind.
To me, it sounded like a very good and folky prog album but not the best example of acid-folk.
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: May 04 2010 at 17:54
not sure if it's been mentioned yet but Nick Drake's Pink Moon
Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: May 05 2010 at 08:47
Paravion wrote:
I searched captaincrawl.com and found bildar, use of
ashes and carol of harvest. Based on one sit-trough I don't find bildar
as good as vittras visor - but certainly enjoyable.
Use of ashes didn't impress me, it was okay, but nothing special. It was too heavy on words..
What's with the hurry with deciding what's best? The best stuff don't reveal itself through one impatient listen. Get over you desire to make hasty desicions and listen properly.
------------- Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes
Find a fly and eat his eye
But don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
Posted By: Lizzy
Date Posted: May 05 2010 at 11:06
Rocktopus wrote:
New Progfolkers http://www.myspace.com/faunfablesmyspace - Faun Fables are brilliant. Love their latest EP, A Table Forgotten:
Wow! That sounds good! ... and they're American. Thanks for sharing! Well actually it's quite hard to find a prog folk band that is not enjoyable. The only one I've been disappointed in so far is Forest.
------------- Property of Queen Productions...
Posted By: Paravion
Date Posted: May 05 2010 at 12:32
rocktopus wrote:
What's with the hurry with deciding what's best? The best stuff don't reveal itself through one impatient listen. Get over you desire to make hasty desicions and listen properly.
What hasty decisions are you talking about? I wrote that I didn't find bildar as interesting as vittras visor and that the use of ashes didn't impress me. I even wrote that it was based on one listen. I haven't decided that it is so. Of course not. I communicated an experience, not decisions. I listen to a lot of music - and I am very much aware of how to do it. Certainly I will listen a lot to the use of ashes and bildar in the nearest future with an open mind. very open.
If I am to give a piece of advise, I would advise you not to 'out of the blue' interpret what you think people mean when it's not supported by the actual words they use. You even assumed I was impatient while listening - how did you reach that conclusion?
By the way, these german favorites of mine deserve a mention
Emtidi - saat (1972)
Amon düül - paradieswärts düül (1970)
Emtidi - s/t (1970)
Hölderlin - hölderlin's traum (1972)
Witthüser und westrupp - der jesus pilz (1971)
Bernd witthüser - lieder von vampiren nonnen und toten (1970)
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: May 05 2010 at 12:39
^
You may like the german Renaissance as well, the band called Rebekka :
------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
Posted By: Paravion
Date Posted: May 05 2010 at 13:06
thanks for the recommendation
I don't like renaissance though. This is somewhat okay, a bit too symphonic and too beautiful though. I'ts liftet too much above ground yet not very psychedelic or 'acid' - it seems a bit pompous to me..
I forgot this:
Bröselmaschine - s/t (1971)
Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: May 05 2010 at 14:26
Paravion wrote:
rocktopus wrote:
What's with the hurry with deciding what's best? The best stuff don't reveal itself through one impatient listen. Get over you desire to make hasty desicions and listen properly.
What hasty decisions are you talking about? I wrote that I didn't find bildar as interesting as vittras visor and that the use of ashes didn't impress me. I even wrote that it was based on one listen. I haven't decided that it is so. Of course not. I communicated an experience, not decisions. I listen to a lot of music - and I am very much aware of how to do it. Certainly I will listen a lot to the use of ashes and bildar in the nearest future with an open mind. very open.
If I am to give a piece of advise, I would advise you not to 'out of the blue' interpret what you think people mean when it's not supported by the actual words they use. You even assumed I was impatient while listening - how did you reach that conclusion?
First telling us that One Nation Underground is
Pearls Before Swine's best and a clear favorite of yours. Turns out you only know two albums, and not the one reccomended here. Then you find it on some blog,
listen, and come back some hours later and says it didn't impress you, it was okay,
but nothing special. (Too heavy on words).
This is about Carol of Harvest, I guess?
Paravion wrote:
The lyrics didn't interest me and I did't pay much attention to
them. They seemed too unearthbound to be authentic in an earthbound
folk sense. Mostly, I like concrete lyrical content in folk music. The
lyrics here seemed vague, general and way too metaphorical.
But I never pay attention to lyrics in prog music. And I don't mind.
Wtf? Its no wonder I misunderstand you. You don't make any sense.
------------- Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes
Find a fly and eat his eye
But don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
Posted By: Paravion
Date Posted: May 05 2010 at 15:32
There's not much to understand... I reckon that the bit about the lyrics isn't crystal clear - of course not, as I wrote, I wasn't paying attention - but it makes perfect sense to me.
I didn't suppose that writing what I think and not think about this or that record/band would be taken this seriously. But I'll try to explain myself.
By saying one nation undergroud is my favorite PBS record I'm not implying that I have analysed it and reached some sort of final conclusion or decision. I'm also not implying that I've done thorough comparison with all the other PBS records.
I do understand, though, that the statement could be understood as such and that I could have expressed myself in a more tentative manner.
The statement is correctly interpreted as "of the PBS records I know, ONU is my favorite". I assumed it to be obvious that the readers would assume that this was the case and not read it as an attempt to express some universally valid statement - my bad I guess.
As to why i think ONU is the best I honestly can't say. I can't explain music and wouldn't want to. To me music is mystery - and that is one of the reasons why I like it that much. I care about how I experience music - I think about what it is that gives me the best experiences - some things I'm aware of, most of them not. I don't know what good music is made of and what makes good music good - I just have some vague ideas and some random criteria for selection (that changes and developes all the time). But the important thing is that I can tell whether I'm having a good or a bad experience. And that's really all I need..
Edit:
Another advise:
Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: May 05 2010 at 16:31
Paravion wrote:
rocktopus wrote:
What's with the hurry with deciding what's best? The best stuff don't reveal itself through one impatient listen. Get over you desire to make hasty desicions and listen properly.
What hasty decisions are you talking about? I wrote that I didn't find bildar as interesting as vittras visor and that the use of ashes didn't impress me. I even wrote that it was based on one listen. I haven't decided that it is so. Of course not. I communicated an experience, not decisions. I listen to a lot of music - and I am very much aware of how to do it. Certainly I will listen a lot to the use of ashes and bildar in the nearest future with an open mind. very open.
If I am to give a piece of advise, I would advise you not to 'out of the blue' interpret what you think people mean when it's not supported by the actual words they use. You even assumed I was impatient while listening - how did you reach that conclusion?
By the way, these german favorites of mine deserve a mention
Emtidi - saat (1972)
Amon düül - paradieswärts düül (1970)
Emtidi - s/t (1970)
Hölderlin - hölderlin's traum (1972)
Witthüser und westrupp - der jesus pilz (1971)
Bernd witthüser - lieder von vampiren nonnen und toten (1970)
Do any of your german favourites feature vocalist/keyboardist Jurgen Dollase?
Posted By: Paravion
Date Posted: May 05 2010 at 16:48
not the ones listed
this does:
Walter Wegmüller - Tarot (1973)
also a german favorite - amazing album! - but not folk.
then there's wallenstein - but you're probably familiar with them since you know of jürgen dollase
Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: May 05 2010 at 21:20
Paravion wrote:
not the ones listed
this does:
Walter Wegmüller - Tarot (1973)
also a german favorite - amazing album! - but not folk.
then there's wallenstein - but you're probably familiar with them since you know of jürgen dollase
thanks for the Tarot reference-i know,have, and passionately love all the Wallenstein albums up to Blue Eyed Boys-i am now trying to collect any of Jurgen Dollase"s other seventies recordings-so far, i have the Sergiu Golowin one, as well as the debut Cosmic Jokers album, and just bought Warpurgis Queen of Saba today-Jurgen Dollase is so consistently great, that i am a completist when it comes to him
Posted By: Paravion
Date Posted: May 06 2010 at 04:34
Tarot is extremely recommended. Here's is a rough transcript of the first track, 'der narr' where he introduces the musicians. It's a bit hard to hear because he's speaking in a very thick accent.
"Ladies and gentlemen it's a great pleasure for me to present to you the fantastic superest greatest rock show you ever heard. We want you to come with us through the voyage through the time. Come on. Clap your hands stamp your feets and take through rythm. And while you take it I present to you the musicians. In the (?theory?) you'll hear the master of (?tabs?) the genious of keyboards the one and only mister wallenstein Jürgen Dollase. Sweet. Now from berlin we got two of the best guitarist of the cosmic music (?the ash ras?) and here the first mister (?world wide?/?wah-wah?) Hartmut Enke. The second guitarist and friend of Hartmut is Manuel Göttsching. And now listen to the drums - there's sitting Harald Grosskopf. Netherland is the home of the bassplayer, the german (??) Jerry Berkers. And i'll start to present the musicsoundist the multisound Walter Waltersen F. A. W. Westrupp. From berlin also too it's mister cosmic music Klaus Schulze. Ah ja. And last artist the master of (?voice/voyage?) the man from the wide hill the man from switzerland Walter Wegmüller."
Great album-opener and what a line-up! And what an introduction. Pure acid.
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: May 06 2010 at 16:43
GRrr
You people need to stop posting all these albums I can't afford, what, are you trying to make me starve here?
Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: May 06 2010 at 17:19
Tea & Symphony An Asylum For The Musically Insane . A flawed masterpiece, but listen to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nq3Wsb6VzUI - Terror in My Soul and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9FtGP0xbAw&feature=related - Armchair Theatre
------------- Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes
Find a fly and eat his eye
But don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: May 06 2010 at 20:35
Paravion wrote:
Tarot is extremely recommended. Here's is a rough transcript of the first track, 'der narr' where he introduces the musicians. It's a bit hard to hear because he's speaking in a very thick accent.
"Ladies and gentlemen it's a great pleasure for me to present to you the fantastic superest greatest rock show you ever heard. We want you to come with us through the voyage through the time. Come on. Clap your hands stamp your feets and take through rythm. And while you take it I present to you the musicians. In the (?theory?) you'll hear the master of (?tabs?) the genious of keyboards the one and only mister wallenstein Jürgen Dollase. Sweet. Now from berlin we got two of the best guitarist of the cosmic music (?the ash ras?) and here the first mister (?world wide?/?wah-wah?) Hartmut Enke. The second guitarist and friend of Hartmut is Manuel Göttsching. And now listen to the drums - there's sitting Harald Grosskopf. Netherland is the home of the bassplayer, the german (??) Jerry Berkers. And i'll start to present the musicsoundist the multisound Walter Waltersen F. A. W. Westrupp. From berlin also too it's mister cosmic music Klaus Schulze. Ah ja. And last artist the master of (?voice/voyage?) the man from the wide hill the man from switzerland Walter Wegmüller."
Great album-opener and what a line-up! And what an introduction. Pure acid.
Tarot sounds like a must-have for me-thanks!
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: May 06 2010 at 21:59
Rocktopus wrote:
Tea & Symphony An Asylum For The Musically Insane . A flawed masterpiece, but listen to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nq3Wsb6VzUI - Terror in My Soul and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9FtGP0xbAw&feature=related - Armchair Theatre
Jo Sago, although it doesn't have as good of songs as Asylum, is a better album overall IMO. It's very entertaining
Posted By: Paravion
Date Posted: May 07 2010 at 05:43
HTCF wrote:
GRrr
You people need to stop posting all these albums I can't afford, what, are you trying to make me starve here?
You're still young. I'm very content with the various music blogs around, you can find almost anything (all the albums mentioned here) goto captaincrawl.com and search. Unless it'll be in conflict with your morals and ethics. As a vinyl fanatic, mp3s (or CDs for that sake) are of no real value, but quite a good way to discover music and decide what to look for. Strange as it might be, I record (some of the) albums onto tape, using this magnificent device of mine.
It's much more easy to relate to music, when the sound has been manifested on some physical and analogue format and not just a combination of zeros and ones. Visible rotation is essential as well...
Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: May 07 2010 at 10:34
HTCF wrote:
Rocktopus wrote:
Tea & Symphony An Asylum For The Musically Insane . A flawed masterpiece, but listen to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nq3Wsb6VzUI - Terror in My Soul and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9FtGP0xbAw&feature=related - Armchair Theatre
Jo Sago, although it doesn't have as good of songs as Asylum, is a better album overall IMO. It's very entertaining
Hm, really? Jo Sago? I thought it was almost as bad follow-up as Comus' To Keep From Crying.
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In the sunlight, see - it flashes
Find a fly and eat his eye
But don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: May 08 2010 at 00:07
amazing Jefferson Airplane cover >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzgAapPcGEM&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzgAapPcGEM&feature=related
Posted By: idiotPrayer
Date Posted: May 12 2010 at 15:03
any album by sand snowman
Posted By: Lizzy
Date Posted: May 12 2010 at 15:12
HTCF wrote:
GRrr
You people need to stop posting all these albums I can't afford, what, are you trying to make me starve here?
Tell me about it. But I'll gladly starve if only I could get my hands on them.
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Posted By: nevbox
Date Posted: June 08 2010 at 23:06
SLEEPY SUN If you like older prog you would even like them. they are popular in the current indie LA scene but i think they should be looked at from prog lovers also. they combine 60's style psychedelic folk while incorporating really heavy blues based rock changes.Please check them out
Posted By: genesis_pig
Date Posted: October 08 2010 at 21:02
I am new to this psychedlic folk/acid folk sub-genre..
I'd like suggestions for 2-3 albums to get me started..
Thanks in advance.
Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: October 08 2010 at 21:12
genesis_pig wrote:
I am new to this psychedlic folk/acid folk sub-genre..
I'd like suggestions for 2-3 albums to get me started..
Thanks in advance.
If you haven't heard them, I suggest Comus' First Utterance and Spirogyra's Bells, Boots, and Shambles.
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: October 08 2010 at 23:59
genesis_pig wrote:
I am new to this psychedlic folk/acid folk sub-genre..
I'd like suggestions for 2-3 albums to get me started..
Thanks in advance.
Espers
Posted By: Atoms
Date Posted: October 09 2010 at 10:47
Last Round - Holy Modal Rounders
The Fugs - The Fugs
Have A Marijuana - David Peel and The Lower East Side
These three albums are either Folk Rock with Acid rock influences or Acid rock with Folk influences. Either way, great albums which I higly recomend.
Posted By: Lizzy
Date Posted: October 09 2010 at 16:14
A Person wrote:
genesis_pig wrote:
I am new to this psychedlic folk/acid folk sub-genre..
I'd like suggestions for 2-3 albums to get me started..
Thanks in advance.
If you haven't heard them, I suggest Comus' First Utterance and Spirogyra's Bells, Boots, and Shambles.
Indeedy-doo! Comus - First Utterance is a must. It is regarded as the mother of all acid/psych/prog folk albums. Then Spirogyra should be the next natural suggestion, but as someone pointed out before, St Radigunds has more acid than Bells, Boots and Shambles; however, they are both essential. Another option would be Jan Dukes de Grey's Mice and Rats in the Loft - now, I don't usually do this (i.e. recommend albums I'm not particularly fond of), but in this case I know I'm in minority regarding this album. You might find it very enjoyable. Then as a last recommendation, for something lighter, try Midwinter's The Waters of Sweet Sorrow. Enjoy, and let us know what you think!
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Posted By: June
Date Posted: October 09 2010 at 16:56
How the heck did I miss this thread?
People who like Voice Of The Seven Woods,
Check out http://www.myspace.com/voiceofthesevenwoods - Voices Of The Seven Thunders and http://www.myspace.com/sixorgans - Six Organs Of Admittance.
Posted By: Paravion
Date Posted: October 10 2010 at 04:22
genesis_pig wrote:
I am new to this psychedlic folk/acid folk sub-genre..
I'd like suggestions for 2-3 albums to get me started..
Thanks in advance.
I'd suggest the following:
Incredible String Band - The Hangman's Beautiful Daughter (1968)
Probably the mother of all albums in this genre.
Comus - First Utterance (1971)
PA favourite, and rightly so. Absolutely amazing record!
Clive's Original Band - Moyshe McStiff and the Tartan Lancers of the Sacred Heart (1972).
Shamefully neglected on PA, but a prime example of acid folk - it really doesn't get much better. The personal and emotional involvement displayed on this recording is really unrivalled. I actually prefer their 1971 record "Spirit of Love" to this one. But the arrangements on Moyshe.. are a little more adventurous and diverse and thus a better example of 'acid-folk' - Spirit of Love is more 'traditional'..
Posted By: genesis_pig
Date Posted: October 10 2010 at 04:56
Thanks for the suggestions.. I am definitely checking out First Utterance.. & the rest of the suggestions too..
But isn't there some sort of an essential band for this sub-genre. I always thought that was the best way to start.
Thanks again.
Posted By: Paravion
Date Posted: October 10 2010 at 04:59
genesis_pig wrote:
But isn't there some sort of an essential band for this sub-genre.
Incredible String Band..
Posted By: June
Date Posted: October 10 2010 at 09:30
Paravion wrote:
genesis_pig wrote:
But isn't there some sort of an essential band for this sub-genre.
Incredible String Band..
Comus
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: October 10 2010 at 12:15
genesis_pig wrote:
Thanks for the suggestions.. I am definitely checking out First Utterance.. & the rest of the suggestions too..
But isn't there some sort of an essential band for this sub-genre. I always thought that was the best way to start.
Thanks again.
Espers.
Also, Roy Harper
Posted By: Lizzy
Date Posted: October 10 2010 at 12:23
June wrote:
Paravion wrote:
genesis_pig wrote:
But isn't there some sort of an essential band for this sub-genre.
Incredible String Band..
Comus
COMUS
Also, thanks for the reminder Colin. Espers was on my 'to do' list.
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: October 10 2010 at 12:28
...you haven't done that yet?
SO GOOD
P.S. idk if you saw my shirt... <--------
Posted By: Lizzy
Date Posted: October 10 2010 at 12:34
Triceratopsoil wrote:
...you haven't done that yet?
SO GOOD
P.S. idk if you saw my shirt... <--------
Not yet! I've got all the time in the world. That means till November 11th when WW3 will start.
And yes saw it and made me green! But seriously, lucky you! Maybe one day I'll get one too. *dreamy sigh*
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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: October 10 2010 at 12:51
I really have to remember to check out Espers as well.
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: October 10 2010 at 13:24
Yeh, jeez guys
Posted By: Lizzy
Date Posted: October 10 2010 at 13:32
Triceratopsoil wrote:
Yeh, jeez guys
Yeh, jeez! We're working on it!
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Posted By: ClemofNazareth
Date Posted: October 10 2010 at 13:41
Probably not the Top 10 but these are all very good acid folk albums worth checking out (couldn't find great videos for all of them but you'll get a taste anyway)....
Comus - 'First Utterance'
Carol of Harvest - 'Carol of Harvest'
Pearls Before Swine - 'The Use of Ashes'
Perry Leopold - 'Experiment In Metaphysics'
Mellow Candle - 'Swaddling Songs'
Midwinter - 'The Waters of Sweet Sorrow'
Smell of Incense - 'Through the Gates of Deeper
Slumber'
Stone Angel - 'Stone Angel'
The Third Estate - 'Years Before the Wine'
Faun Fables - 'Family Album'
------------- "Peace is the only battle worth waging."
Albert Camus
Posted By: Antares
Date Posted: February 01 2013 at 13:14
Best thread I ever read. thanks!
Does anyone reading this have Turid's Bilder or Vittras Visor? couldnt find them anywhere in 320 kbps or higher quality
Posted By: ClemofNazareth
Date Posted: February 01 2013 at 16:17
Nope, but seeing this thread agian after all this time reminded me of another album. Confoundingly difficult to classify (folk, psych, zydeco, field recorded sounds, aimless rambling) and listed under Proto-Prog here, but truly a folk oddity worth checking out...
------------- "Peace is the only battle worth waging."
Albert Camus
Posted By: @MilesOfSmilesUK
Date Posted: August 18 2013 at 13:27
Some fine picks above!
Just a quick heads-up that COMUS will play 'First Utterance' in it's
entirety at Islington Assembly Hall, London on Sat 21 Sept...!
Support from (less prog/more folk Shirley Collins & Hladowski/Joynes)