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    Posted: April 07 2010 at 15:19
Oh well, here we go again - it's election time here in dear old Blighty.

You have a choice between Mr Brown's mob, that nice Old Etonian Dave, Nick's Lib Dems, the Scots, Welsh, or Northern Ireland Nationalists, traditional unionists in Northern Ireland, the bloody hateful fascists of the British Nationalist PartyDead, loonies and eccentrics, genuine independents such as that nice Doctor MP in Worcester, or celebs who are standing in "protest" at the expenses scandal ridden MPs.

This is open to all nationalities. Let's see if PA really is a representative sample of the electroate a la Mori and the rest of the polls.

My vote is for Nationalists - have to as I am a member of plaid Cymru, the Welsh nationalist party. Delievered 400 leaflets today with the boy, and our feet are aching!Sleepy
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There's no communist party? Shocked
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I've been giving this way too much thought, recently. I might as well share.

I popped onto http://www.politicalcompass.org the other day to see how I squared up to the three main parties... I'm way out in an opposite corner of the grid! It says I'm closest to the Greens, but they won't be getting my vote due to some their absurd anti-science policies and ill-thought out hippyisms (ban all zoos, etc.). So basically, if I want to vote on policy grounds I'm f**ked. That only really leaves tactical voting (aim: keep out Tories at all costs).

I'm currently in a Labour constituency, but I have no idea how safe a seat it is. The last thing I want to do is toss a vote to the Lib Dems (who I agree with on a few things but nowhere near enough to actively support the party as a whole) if that's just going to result in a gain for the Tories in my area. Gah. What a headache our ridiculous, f**ked-up electoral system is.
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Originally posted by Vompatti Vompatti wrote:

There's no communist party? Shocked


Nope. We don't even have a real Socialist Party. Left wing politics in the UK is a divided, contradictory mess.
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What's the difference between the "nationalists" and the BNP?
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Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

What's the difference between the "nationalists" and the BNP?
 
The Scottish Nationalists want independence from the rest of the UK. Almost half a billion GBP (near enough $1bn) spent on housing the Scottish government when there was already a suitable building available! Preponderance of extra politicians etc... complete waste of public money. Devolution was a BIG mistake (sorry Steve!) in Scotland at least.
 
All a bunch of crooks anyway (see recent expenses scandal)... I won't be voting.  
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I'm barking mad and somewhat independent, so... go figure. I'm also not British.
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Points: 4160 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 07 2010 at 16:49
I had read somewhere the radical hippie attitude: the real hippies are not voting for humanist, left-winged parties. No. The whole electoral system is a farce and giving an illusion the system is functioning. Radical left-wingers were voting for fascists out of pure cynicism.

Hence my little contribution to the cynical political views. However, it looks disgusting, and the slightest possibility such a party exists (let alone have a chance of political relevancy) makes a bitter taste in my mouth.Dead
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I need to talk to a few more taxi drivers to make up my mind. 
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I'm thinking of voting for the Scottish National Party. 
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This is my view:

SNP - Raw populists, would say most things to get votes. The idea of independence is not real either with the enormous infrastructure, social and health problems Scotland is facing. Number one priority would be to dry up Scotland before they can think about going alone. Besides of  that, I quite like SNP.

Labour - An enormous own goal with that NI hike. I would had voted them (if I could), but that suicide note they have just delivered gives me second thoughts.

LibDems - I like them. But is it a wasted vote ?

Conservatives - Is David Cameron for real or is he just the human face of a party who will retract into being a Little England party again when in power ? I think David Cameron is their biggest positive and negative. I also like their policies.........a lot. But the fear of Little England makes it difficult to trust them.

All parties support my core beliefs and I do not think there will be a massive change whatever happens. Great Britain is the most conservative country in the world. There is no big differences, post-Thatcher. All the changes has already been made. So happy voting !

Btw. I also happens to think that Margaret Thatcher was a bigger revolutionary than Lenin. The proof can be found everywhere in Great Britain. Here at Clydeside, we went from 30 odd shipyards to one shipyard. From 50 odd coal-mines to none. From heavy industries to call-centres. That lady turned this area upside down.  

 
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Thatcher gave this country economic and social cancer, which has been slowly killing us off ever since. Our economic model is not sustainable imo. You cant have an economy where virtually nothing is 'produced' and is solely reliant on banking, financial services and consumption. We have no safety net, no contigency.

10 years from now, you'll need a degree to be a bank clerk, or a driving instructor in the UK. These will be the high brow, middle class jobs on offer to an enormous job market, all armed with meaningless degrees, and saddled with a lifetime of debt to pay off their college years. Britain will undergo a brain drain, as anyone with any aspiration flees abroad to find work, leaving behind sink estates full of people who left school at 16 refusing to do any work that gets their hands dirty. This work will be undertaken by an ever increasing immigrant population, which will become harder to track and manage. The government will eventually turn a blind eye to hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants allowing unscrupulous employers to exploit by paying well under min wage.

Who will I vote for? I dont know, and I'm not convinced it makes any difference. The stable door is banging in the wind, and the horse has long since bolted.
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I'm a member of The Labour Party so my vote for them is a given.

Labour will lose because the average voter believes "it is time for a change and they're all the same any way..." Ermm
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Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

I'm a member of The Labour Party so my vote for them is a given.Labour will lose because the average voter believes "it is time for a change and they're all the same any way..." Ermm


It's always 'time for change' That has been the basic premise of every election campaign by every party since we established democracy in this country. It's a hollow and meaningless slogan. The sort of change that is really required will never come about because our economic model doesn't support a more even distribution of wealth and mass investment in critical public services.

However, I think you're right about Labour losing. Brown is toast. The British people are sadly not that bright. I've little time for NuLab, but if people think they're going to be better off under Cameron, they are in for an extremely unpleasant surpise.
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Many voters, tabloid rags & pundits with a 2nd class degree in political science from their local polytechnic state it is a time for change.

Why?

Despite everything which has happened in the last few years, e.g. allegedly illegal Iraq war, our own little Vietnam in Afganistan, expenses scandals (by no means just the ruling party), recession/banking scandals (again, by no means the fault of the ruling party, except perhaps by ommission of regulation), the bottom line is, the Labout government has not necessarily done a bad job since 1997.

Yes, the country's not at the top of the world super-power list & yes, there is high unemployment, youth delinquency + all the ills of a modern developed society - but is this the fault of the ruling party? No. Are we as a country alone in suffering these ills? No. Would they have been/will they be any better under a Conservative administration? NO.

Maybe most importantly, would change for the sake of change adversely affect the UK's as yet delicate economic recovery? In my very humble opinion, yes.

OK - Gordon Brown is an ineffectual leader & should be replaced, but replace the whole government???

I know where my vote's going.

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Socialist Equality Party

Its running a few candidates
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Originally posted by Trouserpress Trouserpress wrote:

Originally posted by Vompatti Vompatti wrote:

There's no communist party? Shocked


Nope. We don't even have a real Socialist Party. Left wing politics in the UK is a divided, contradictory mess.


No we don't, and the Socialist Equality Party in the last post is a good example.

The history of the left in Britain has been incredibly depressing, with more factions than you can wave a stick at and all of them so far up their own arses that they can never be taken seriously.

If I had listed all of them, I would have used up most of PAs server space, and, besides, I am heartily sick of all of them after 26 years of active TU politics.

The country is craving for an electable, coherent, and democratic progressive socialist party, and I feel really sorry for the choice confronting voters in England. At least in Wales we have that party, Plaid, and SNP in Scotland, but England?

I crave for the day when a real choice is before us all and real progressive change comes about. I'm not holding my breath though.
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What is progressive politics ? 
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UK leftist politics may be confusing and a mess, but at least you got them.
The Democratic Party has always been a disappointment to me, and despite my hopes a leftward shift to my personal beliefs under Obama, no cigar.

I believe the US is the only industrial nation without a social democratic party....

But I'll leave this thread now, suppose I have no real point in contributing.
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