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    Posted: April 05 2010 at 10:22
I have been working lately during my free time over my Workstation and finally tame the sequencer, which is something very easy to use (and I was too lazy to learn how to use it) so now I'm looking to compose and make songs directly with my workstation and recording it and see how things flows. I have one song already made inspired in the flow of the tracking and recording. So, I know here are a lot of great Keyboard experts so, if someone have an advise, a tip or anything useful about Sequencers and workstations I'm all ears...
 
I'm using the Korg M-50... which uses technology from the M-3, so, I'm all ears if someone help me with the process of recording... what  do you say guys?
 
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Cool, I just got a (main)

Yamaha QY100 Sequencer Accompaniment Tool

Still haven't sat down with it to figure it all out.  Got stuck at getting it communicate MIDI wise with my synth and computers. So far I got my synth to change the default patch for the keyboard on it and I'm not entirely sure how that happened.  LOL



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Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Cool, I just got a (main)

Yamaha QY100 Sequencer Accompaniment Tool

Still haven't sat down with it to figure it all out.  Got stuck at getting it communicate MIDI wise with my synth and computers. So far I got my synth to change the default patch for the keyboard on it and I'm not entirely sure how that happened.  LOL

 
Cool... don't forget to tell us how that thing works... seems like a comfortable tool... good luck with that... Thumbs Up
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Jampa, I don't know how you have the patience to use an 'on board' hardware sequencer.
You would find a PC or Mac software based program much, much easier to navigate
(like SONAR, Cubase, Logic etc) That way you can 'see' your whole arrangement in front of you without having to fiddle around with 28 button presses for nested sub-pages etc
I used a Korg M1 hardware sequencer for about a week a long time ago and suffered tears of frustration tying to get a semblance of an arrangement up and running.Confused

You should upload some of your music so we can hear it.
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Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Jampa, I don't know how you have the patience to use an 'on board' hardware sequencer.
You would find a PC or Mac software based program much, much easier to navigate
(like SONAR, Cubase, Logic etc) That way you can 'see' your whole arrangement in front of you without having to fiddle around with 28 button presses for nested sub-pages etc
I used a Korg M1 hardware sequencer for about a week a long time ago and suffered tears of frustration tying to get a semblance of an arrangement up and running.Confused

You should upload some of your music so we can hear it.
 
I don't know, but the system of my M-50 is quite comfortable... the touch screen is very accesible and the recording process is quite good... I know the software is easier but for me is very complicated to do two things you know, like playing and learning a process in a PC... so, having my workstation wherever like in my bed or in my desk is quite great and not having PC's around... and I do encourage you to try this wonderful touch screen... is very intuitive... the only problem is that I can only record over a SD card... that's why I don't have the recording in my computer yet... but I will post my songs anytime soon... is just that the first one is too improvised... now I will start doing more structured songs... thanks Lain...
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Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Cool, I just got a (main)

Yamaha QY100 Sequencer Accompaniment Tool

Still haven't sat down with it to figure it all out.  Got stuck at getting it communicate MIDI wise with my synth and computers. So far I got my synth to change the default patch for the keyboard on it and I'm not entirely sure how that happened.  LOL

 
Systems Exclusive Data..........welcome to the nightmare !!  LOL
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Originally posted by Rabid Rabid wrote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Cool, I just got a (main)

Yamaha QY100 Sequencer Accompaniment Tool

Still haven't sat down with it to figure it all out.  Got stuck at getting it communicate MIDI wise with my synth and computers. So far I got my synth to change the default patch for the keyboard on it and I'm not entirely sure how that happened.  LOL

 
Systems Exclusive Data..........welcome to the nightmare !!  LOL
 
So Slarti... how's it going with the sequencer... I think I will post a sample of my recording next week... so far.. so good... Big smile
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Thanks for asking.  I still haven't made a serious effort to dig in and learn how to use it yet.  It's really difficult when I can just pick up the old acoustic guitar...
However, I'm a bit of a gadgeteer, so I will get around to it sooner or later. 

Looking forward to checking out your sample.  Will stay tuned. Big smile

Although now that you've mentioned it, I might have to set aside a half hour tonight to fool around with it.


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Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Thanks for asking.  I still haven't made a serious effort to dig in and learn how to use it yet.  It's really difficult when I can just pick up the old acoustic guitar...
However, I'm a bit of a gadgeteer, so I will get around to it sooner or later. 

Looking forward to checking out your sample.  Will stay tuned. Big smile

Although now that you've mentioned it, I might have to set aside a half hour tonight to fool around with it.
Slarti, good luck with that thing.  If it's even a near relation of the onboard sequencer on my Yamaha Motif, you're going to need a pound of limes and a bottle or two of Patron to get to even attempt to get to the bottom of it.Big smile
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Well Guys, is finally here... the song made with the help of the sequencer of my M-50, I have to tell you, it only took my like two hours to record all the keyboard tracks which were 2 for drums, 1 for bass, 2 for strings, 1 for piano, 1 for a lead sound and 1 more for something that I don't remember but it was 7 different lines, and I only added two guitars of my portastudio... so... I will like your comments... thanks...
 
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Common Juan, give us mp3 file. It says I have to register in order to download. Use some filesharing service as many starting artists do :-)

(I don't like/use stream)
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That was really great, Juan.  Excellent, upbeat music.  Clap

It reminds me of this, which I think you' really like. 
https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays
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Originally posted by Marty McFly Marty McFly wrote:

Common Juan, give us mp3 file. It says I have to register in order to download. Use some filesharing service as many starting artists do :-)

(I don't like/use stream)

 
Strange... you can just push play and you can hear it... but well... I will try a different way for yourself... OK..?
 
Thanks Rob... I don't know that album... but I check it out and let you know.. OK...? thanks...
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Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

That was really great, Juan.  Excellent, upbeat music.  Clap

It reminds me of this, which I think you' really like. 
I agree with Rob's assessment as excellent, upbeat music.  It reminded me a bit of the Ozric Tentacles and for some reason Mike Oldfield comes to mind.
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Originally posted by jampa17 jampa17 wrote:

Originally posted by Rabid Rabid wrote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Cool, I just got a (main)

Yamaha QY100 Sequencer Accompaniment Tool

Still haven't sat down with it to figure it all out.  Got stuck at getting it communicate MIDI wise with my synth and computers. So far I got my synth to change the default patch for the keyboard on it and I'm not entirely sure how that happened.  LOL

 
Systems Exclusive Data..........welcome to the nightmare !!  LOL
 
So Slarti... how's it going with the sequencer... I think I will post a sample of my recording next week... so far.. so good... Big smile
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I will say this for the Yamaha, if I were stuck waiting at an airport or a hospital emergency room it's really nice and compact and I'd be having a ball while waiting.  The keyboard isn't velocity sensitive but like any instrument when you adapt yourself to playing it, it can be a lot of fun.
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Hey....wasn't being funny or disrespectful.....Systems Exclusive Data can seriously have you pulling your hair out......especially when you use it with another synth of a different make. QY-100 is XG, right ? Try controlling that with a GS based synth, like a Roland, or Korg.....Sys-Ex is sent when you hit the play button. Trouble IS, GS messages dont mean much to an XG synth.....thats why you get totally unexpected things happening ie: voices changing by (seemingly) themself. This is the world of MSB (Most Significant Byte) and LSB (Least Significant Byte) that kept me on the phone to Yamaha UK for 3.5 years. Prepare for some SERIOUS manual reading.
 
Hope it goes well for ya.  Big smile
 
 
ps: the QY-100 is velocity sensitive.....the trick IS, to edit with a PC.
 
 


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Originally posted by Rabid Rabid wrote:

Hey....wasn't being funny or disrespectful.....Systems Exclusive Data can seriously have you pulling your hair out......especially when you use it with another synth of a different make. QY-100 is XG, right ? Try controlling that with a GS based synth, like a Roland, or Korg.....Sys-Ex is sent when you hit the play button. Trouble IS, GS messages dont mean much to an XG synth.....thats why you get totally unexpected things happening ie: voices changing by (seemingly) themself. This is the world of MSB (Most Significant Byte) and LSB (Least Significant Byte) that kept me on the phone to Yamaha UK for 3.5 years. Prepare for some SERIOUS manual reading.
 
Hope it goes well for ya.  Big smile
 
 

And all the hype made it seem like the thing would be so easy. LOL
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Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by Rabid Rabid wrote:

Hey....wasn't being funny or disrespectful.....Systems Exclusive Data can seriously have you pulling your hair out......especially when you use it with another synth of a different make. QY-100 is XG, right ? Try controlling that with a GS based synth, like a Roland, or Korg.....Sys-Ex is sent when you hit the play button. Trouble IS, GS messages dont mean much to an XG synth.....thats why you get totally unexpected things happening ie: voices changing by (seemingly) themself. This is the world of MSB (Most Significant Byte) and LSB (Least Significant Byte) that kept me on the phone to Yamaha UK for 3.5 years. Prepare for some SERIOUS manual reading.
 
Hope it goes well for ya.  Big smile
 
 

And all the hype made it seem like the thing would be so easy. LOL
 
LOL.....if  only !!.........Confused
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Yamaha makes it all seem so easy.  After said two pounds of limes and two bottles of Patron, myself, I finally gave in and bought a Yamaha 16-track recorder, and now I do my sequencing the old fashioned way: live, one track at a time.  Yes I know, I should learn to use the sequencer, but no sufficient time now, being one of those few people who seems to still have a job here in the USA and the corporate masters seem to think we should work 12 hour days and be happy about it.
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