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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2010 at 12:59
Originally posted by Mr ProgFreak Mr ProgFreak wrote:

^ If you can't distinguish between persons and belief systems then my posts will always appear to be (personally) offensive to you ... and I'm not going to change my approach. Please note that I didn't create this poll to apologize or to ask for forgiveness for any perceived offense ... I'm merely asking whether some people were offended.



I'm sure some were.  But if you're not apologetic if people are offended, I wonder why you even ask the question...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2010 at 13:14
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by Mr ProgFreak Mr ProgFreak wrote:

^ If you can't distinguish between persons and belief systems then my posts will always appear to be (personally) offensive to you ... and I'm not going to change my approach. Please note that I didn't create this poll to apologize or to ask for forgiveness for any perceived offense ... I'm merely asking whether some people were offended.



I'm sure some were.  But if you're not apologetic if people are offended, I wonder why you even ask the question...


I wasn't sure whether there was something other than the obvious religion-related stuff ...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2010 at 14:28
Originally posted by Mr ProgFreak Mr ProgFreak wrote:

^ If you can't distinguish between persons and belief systems then my posts will always appear to be (personally) offensive to you ... and I'm not going to change my approach. Please note that I didn't create this poll to apologize or to ask for forgiveness for any perceived offense ... I'm merely asking whether some people were offended.

BTW: I was doing some hiking today with some friends ... after we had lunch we discussed dieting, and one of them ridiculed my low-carb dieting. I wasn't offended at all, I joined in the laughter. I think that sometimes it's much more important to be able to take criticism, than to try to be politically correct.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2010 at 14:40
^ Take it easy man - and lay off the steroids!Ying Yang
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2010 at 14:57
By the way Mike, how come a metal personality like you haven't paid a visit to MMA? There's none of the "what's prog" issue there but there are tons of metal!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2010 at 14:58
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BTW: I was doing some hiking today with some friends ... after we had lunch we discussed dieting, and one of them ridiculed my low-carb dieting. I wasn't offended at all, I joined in the laughter. I think that sometimes it's much more important to be able to take criticism, than to try to be politically correct.
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Surely there's a difference between being ridiculed by friends, and being ridiculed by a stranger. Also, I don't think a diet compares with someone's spiritual beliefs.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2010 at 17:21
Originally posted by seventhsojourn seventhsojourn wrote:

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BTW: I was doing some hiking today with some friends ... after we had lunch we discussed dieting, and one of them ridiculed my low-carb dieting. I wasn't offended at all, I joined in the laughter. I think that sometimes it's much more important to be able to take criticism, than to try to be politically correct.
 
 
Surely there's a difference between being ridiculed by friends, and being ridiculed by a stranger. Also, I don't think a diet compares with someone's spiritual beliefs.
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You would be surprised....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2010 at 17:37
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

By the way Mike, how come a metal personality like you haven't paid a visit to MMA? There's none of the "what's prog" issue there but there are tons of metal!


maybe that's why


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2010 at 17:37
offended, defended, what's this about , a football team? Cool Frankly, Ma'am, we don't give a damn , off goes the wind!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2010 at 18:38
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:


Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

By the way Mike, how come a metal personality like you haven't paid a visit to MMA? There's none of the "what's prog" issue there but there are tons of metal!
maybe that's why
He may be a prog-freak after all
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2010 at 19:08
Always have and always will like you Mike.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2010 at 20:14
You have offended The American Carbohydrate Association.  You don't want to mess with the ACA. Shocked  Tongue

Edited by Slartibartfast - April 02 2010 at 20:15
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2010 at 20:43
Originally posted by Mr ProgFreak Mr ProgFreak wrote:



I know what you mean, but in that situation I simply could not walk by and not make this information available to him - I felt morally obligated to make this post. I already said that it was probably a mistake to mention the word "pray" in that situation, because it automatically triggered a defensive reaction from the religious people ("he says he doesn't pray" -> "he criticizes prayer").

Posting that advice is my form of caring for him.


i see your point... but giving advice presupposes having f**king clue what you are talking about and knowing something of WHO you are talking to.  To offer advice otherwise is not caring..  it is moralizing...with you and your opinions and morals being foremost.. not their situation.. of which.. you know nothing.


if i am stricken with cancer and am very ill...at least i know who to turn to for dietary advice..  screw the doctors who are probably feeding their very sick patients goddamn Big Macs.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 03 2010 at 03:15
^ doctors have been recommending low-fat, high-carb diets for the last 50 years ... and when certain predictions fail ("this diet will lower your cholesterol" etc), what do they do? Revise their dietary recommendation? No, maintain it and prescribe medication.

You know that I'm not a doctor, and I never said I was. But that doesn't mean that I don't have a clue.

I know the science behind low-carb, and I know that he's a human being. This is all I need to know in order to make the recommendation. And if you don't give a f**k about the science, then with all due respect: Stay the f**k out of the conversation.

BTW: Remember who started the swearing here.Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 03 2010 at 03:35
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

By the way Mike, how come a metal personality like you haven't paid a visit to MMA? There's none of the "what's prog" issue there but there are tons of metal!


I probably won't go there ... for several reasons. First and foremost, I don't have the time. I think that it's a poor decision to make this a completely separate website, especially as far as the forums are concerned. Everybody is forced to create an new account there, although it is clearly the same forum software. Secondly, I admit that I am deeply hurt by the lack of support for PF in comparison to that new website. It is quite obvious to me - as a software developer - that they built MMA with the least possible efforts - but people are flocking there by the hundreds, eager to help M@x to fill the place with life.

I'm hurt by this, but like I said many times before, I know that there's no way for me to get people to support me at PF, so I'm no longer actively trying to get them to. However, please don't expect me to join the party and pretend to having fun. Incidentally: When did M@x even raise his pinky to support PF?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 03 2010 at 04:02
 ^ you're absolutely right Mike, and I'm sorry all your hard work has not attracted the audience it deserves--  I assume it's the bells & whistles that attracts people; the graphics, discussion forum, immediate review publication, these are very attractive features that give an immediate satisfaction to members and provides an instant community where it feels as if members are as in charge as much as owners.. it's a brilliant combination and made PA what it is.  Also, I assume M@x is not necessarily a metal expert and counts on the exspertise of others, where as you really know your stuff and that changes the dynamic.

I wish you success someday, though, and can imagine how disappointing things have been for you.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 03 2010 at 04:08
^ Thanks! What I find curious though is your impression that at PA "members are in charge as much as owners". I've always felt that members are on a very tight leash here when it comes to artist/album additions or having a say in where the development of the website is headed. I've just read a post in the thread about MMA that asks for multi-tagging. I don't think that such a feature will ever be implemented by M@x (we've been asking for it here for many years), but the person who ask will ultimately just bow to M@x. Or in other words:

Home is where the herd is.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 03 2010 at 04:17
I said it "feels as if members are in charge" .. and BTW let's face it, the people with the real power at PA are the SCs
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 03 2010 at 04:32
^ only when it comes to artist additions, and if there's no veto from the owners.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 03 2010 at 04:36
well if my team ever made an addition that was vetoed by anyone, I'd leave in a heartbeat
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