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earlyprog
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Topic: Best harpsichord use in proto-prog? Posted: March 25 2010 at 08:23 |
Do you prefer the bombastic (Yardbirds, Piggies), the subtle (White Ship, In Held...) or other use of harpsichord in proto-prog ?
Select your song.
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: March 25 2010 at 09:14 |
I like how the name Sweet_water was shown by the forum filter
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: March 25 2010 at 09:17 |
I wasn't familiar with the songs and was wondering what was autobleeped there. |
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Cactus Choir
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Posted: March 25 2010 at 09:41 |
Of the ones here Dawn by The Nice. If Blind by Deep Purple was one of the choices I'd have gone for that, which has a wonderfully evocative solo from Jon Lord. Another good Doors one is Wintertime Love.
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someone_else
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Posted: March 25 2010 at 10:07 |
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earlyprog
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Posted: March 26 2010 at 02:47 |
Being For The Benefit Of Mr. Kite! is popular.
However, I haven't been able to verify that what to me sounds like a harpsichord actually is a harpsichord. Lewisohn's "The Beatles Recording Sessions" doesn't mention any harpsichord on that recording. It does mention that a lot of harmonium work was done by George Martin.
I guess it would be an anticlimax if the most popular harpsichord-driven song turns out not to contain harpsichord
Similarly, it kind of sounds like a harpsichord on Shaman's Blues but can anyone corfirm this? Edited by earlyprog - March 26 2010 at 03:58 |
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Icarium
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Posted: March 26 2010 at 04:42 |
Elton John playd alot of Harphiscord on his first three albums Empty Sky, st and Tubmleweed Conection, and he is verry found of it
try the songs, I Need You to Tun To, Six Years On, the Greatest Discvoery, (this is on the self titled album 1970), on TC, Come Down In Time , Love Song. Edited by aginor - March 26 2010 at 04:43 |
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Posted: March 27 2010 at 03:06 |
I laughed out loud when i saw that.
Anyone here ever been to Sc**thorpe on Humberside?
BTW I voted "Other" thinking of Afterwards from the Aerosol Grey Machine (Van der Graaf Generator). It sounds like harpsichord, anyway, and is the core of this undiscovered psychedelic gem. |
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moe_blunts
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Posted: March 27 2010 at 12:32 |
LOL
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The Whistler
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Posted: March 28 2010 at 01:16 |
No idea what the harpsichord in "Kite" is, except that it's not a harpsichord. Likewise, the "harpsichord" in "Shaman's Blues" is a synth, t'would seem; the harpsichord in "Love Me Two Times" is an electric clavichord. Therefore, it gets my vote. Or maybe "Walk Away Renee." |
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earlyprog
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Posted: March 31 2010 at 06:15 |
The new info is much appreciated, Whistler, Aginor and Cactus Choir
BTW, Beatles' Fixing A Hole uses harpsichord.
And it seems that The Doors used it extensively - relatively anyway.
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earlyprog
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Posted: April 05 2010 at 14:16 |
The list represents 7 uses of harpsichord in a classical context (Nice/ars, Sweet_water/storybook, Doors/soft, Bakerloo, Beatles/because, Renaissance, Man), 6 in R&B (Yardbirds, Beatles/fixing, Traffic, Procol Harum, Sweet_water/Pete, Doors/soft), 4 uses in folk (Rolling Stones, Sweet_water/storybook, Bowie, Renaissance), 3 uses in space rock (H.P. Lovecraft, Group 1850, Beatles/because), 3 in US psyche (H.P. Lovecraft, Sweet_water/Pete/storybook), 2 in UK psyche (Nice/dawn, Beatles/piggies).
Of the classical examples those without brass/strings/woodwind work best in my opinion, i.e. Beatles/because and Renaissance, while in R&B the percussive and/or woodwind examples are best (in the former case, the Yardbirds, in the latter case Traffic and Sweet_water). Generally, folk is the best environment for the harpsichord IMO; Wakeman delivers a superb performance on Cygnet Committee - very novel in his approach far from the traditional use. Hence, this gets my vote.
Perhaps surprisingly, the use of harpsichord in Space rock is also quite unique but works very well, especially for Group 1850. It's use in UK psyche is rare, but the unusual, bombastic use in Beatles/pigges is great, but I see it more as a joke.
The eclectic environment (woodwind, strings, brass) works very well in US psyche, as opposed to classical. Again, I prefer the more bombastic use in Sweet_water's Storybook.
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clarke2001
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Posted: April 05 2010 at 16:07 |
Great choice, earlyprog! I'll go with Rolling Stones' Play With Fire... a song of unsurpassed beauty and non-pretentiousness.
I must mention another one, not on your list: Sport (The Odd Boy) by The Bonzo Dog Band. Incredible. |
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earlyprog
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Posted: April 08 2010 at 14:10 |
Oh, before any off the list, in August (September) '64 the Beach Boys recorded (released) When I Grow Up (To Be a Man) with harpsichord.
Yet another testament to their progressive leanings.
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earlyprog
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Posted: April 13 2010 at 15:17 |
I overlooked The Moody Blues' House of Four Doors Pt.1, another fine example of harpsichord use.
It was recorded January-June '68 between Dawn and In Held Twas In I.
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Floydman
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Posted: April 14 2010 at 09:45 |
This probably doesn't count but I like the simulation of the harpsichord on "In My Life" and Paul use of the clavichord which is a sister instrument of the harpsichord on "For No One". One Beatles track that mixes the harpsichord with some heavy overdriven guitar sounds is "Not Guilty". It's a bizarre mixing of classical and hard rock. Edited by Floydman - April 14 2010 at 10:20 |
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Dick Heath
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Posted: April 14 2010 at 11:34 |
Strikes me the Doors' label Elektra Records were using harpsicord "extensively" - presumably because it was cheaper and easier to use than a Moog synthesiser, which the wealthier record labels/studios were going for at the time - check out the 4 CD boxset sampling the first 10 years of recordings from that label: Forever Changing - where you'll find along with the Doors, Love (check out the De Capo album more fully as well), Judy Collins and several more obscure bands having the harpsicholrd included in their work. Edited by Dick Heath - May 05 2010 at 06:46 |
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Ronnie Pilgrim
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Posted: April 14 2010 at 12:40 |
Yeah, it's auto-censoring the word +wa+ ! And that's the problem with censorship in general. Just ask Tommy Smothers!
Edited by Ronnie Pilgrim - April 14 2010 at 12:45 |
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earlyprog
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Posted: May 05 2010 at 04:28 |
Well it's a pity that harpsichord is not used on Being For The Benefit Of Mr. Kite otherwise it would clearly be the preferred harpsichord proto-prog track
There's no distinct preference for any of the remaining songs so I raise the question once again.
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caretaker
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Posted: May 12 2010 at 06:52 |
the doors "the crystal ship".
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