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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2010 at 14:08
Originally posted by Mr ProgFreak Mr ProgFreak wrote:

Two threads, not thirteen - and the older one is already gathering dust. I created this poll because I thought that a poll would attract more attention, and I guess I was right.

BTW: This is the "General Polls" section ... if you're annoyed by non-music polls here, I'd recommend that you simply ignore them.Geek


I'm just busting your chops Mike.  Lighten up.  Have some pasta.

Wait - does this mean you don't drink beer?  And you're German?  Ouch.  Ouch


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2010 at 20:13
Viagra. LOL  Anything that may give you a four hour erection, because let's face it, you're going to have to work that off somehow. Tongue

Also get some of those drugs that make you sleepwalk.

Wait a second, we're already on page 5 and just three votes?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 25 2010 at 03:03
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by Mr ProgFreak Mr ProgFreak wrote:

Two threads, not thirteen - and the older one is already gathering dust. I created this poll because I thought that a poll would attract more attention, and I guess I was right.

BTW: This is the "General Polls" section ... if you're annoyed by non-music polls here, I'd recommend that you simply ignore them.Geek


I'm just busting your chops Mike.  Lighten up.  Have some pasta.

Wait - does this mean you don't drink beer?  And you're German?  Ouch.  Ouch


Of course I know you weren't entirely serious.Wink

But on the topic of beer ... even on the Protein Power diet you can still have that. Alcohol puts the breaks on fat metabolism though, so if you're having it you have to be aware that it will delay the weight loss.

Generally, this Protein Power diet demands very strict calculation of carbohydrates and protein during phase 1 (comparable to the induction phase of the Atkins diet), then lightens that during phase 2 (which you can enter when your fat approaches normal levels and/or when your metabolic values return to normal - such as blood pressure, blood triglycerides, cholesterol etc), and after that you enter maintenance (for the rest of your life, if you're willing) where you can slowly up the carbohydrates until (and before) you're starting to gain weight again. Usually that means around 100g (three ounces) of carbohydrates a day, balanced with protein and fat. And for me that translates into beer very well, or dry red wine (which has become my favorite alcoholic drink, aside from JWBBig smile).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 25 2010 at 20:05
Mmm... I diet thread an no women posting?

Oh, right... Wink

Quoting Dr. Phil here, but one thing I know is true for a lot of women: lose the hurt, lose the weight.

It doesn't have really much to do with what you eat, but I find that a lot of girls (I'm sure it's true for some men too) tend to eat their emotions, something like that. I have seen some women's dress size increase everytime they're having relationship issues, and that usually makes things worse. You feel bad about something, you eat, you put on weight, you feel bad about that, you eat more...

Quite the vicious circle. I think some careful examination of the state of your life is quite helpful to lose weight. You need to figure out why you've put on the weight in the first place, to figure out what needs to be worked on exactly. In my case, after uni, it was really working quite far away from home, and spending 2 hours a day in the car, coming home too tired to do any exercise. I've made the changes than needed to be done, found plenty of time in my schedule to get daily exercise.

Another thing too: all those diet sodas and fake sugars, get rid of them. They mess up your tastes buds. Nothing tastes as sweet as it really is because of them, so you need more sugar to satisfy those cravings.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 26 2010 at 02:15
^ Having read so much about physiology, about how different types of foods affect the hormonal balance and enzymatic activity in our body, I can't agree with your statement that "it doesn't have really much to do with *what* you eat". However, I do agree that there can be psychological reasons for overeating, and stress can affect your hormones, too. If you accept the latter to be true (chronic stress -> hormonal imbalance -> fat storage) then maybe the other mechanisms might intrigue you, too ... I strongly recommend the book "Protein Power" on in depth information about how all the mechanisms in your body are affected by *what* you eat (most importantly, insulin and glucagon).

As far as diet sodas and fake sugars are concerned: I think that they stimulate the taste buds as much as regular sugar does. But I agree that the more ultra-sweet things you eat, the more will your taste buds adjust. So my recommendation would be to eat less sweet things. That way the other stuff will taste more interesting, and when you eat something sweet only occasionally, the sensation is intensified.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 26 2010 at 02:34
I have tried all sorts in my time on this Big Blue Ball and I guess everyone works differently but High protein, Low fat seems to be the most successful for losing weight but keeping energy. The sad thing is just one drink turns the diet into High protein/HIGH fatAngry
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 26 2010 at 02:45
^  With the Protein Power approach you get adequate protein, low-carbs and the rest is fat. The idea is that based on your lean body mass you calculate the amount of protein you need - then you build your diet around that minimum protein requirement (you can eat more protein if you like) and make sure that you limit the carbs to around 30g. For a typical 6 foot male person this amounts to approximately 100g of protein and 30g of carbs each day. You don't need to count fat calories or total calories - but of course you have to be aware that when you gorge on fat you probably won't lose as much weight as you hoped. However - and I can confirm this from first hand experience - it's difficult to gorge on fat if you leave out the carbs.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2010 at 12:38
Two words - crystal meth. LOL Just kidding. Amphetamines were commonly prescribed for weight loss before the realization that addiction, heart disease, and dental problems were common consequences. I did not vote in the poll because the correct answer is - see your doctor. The condition of your health needs to be determined, along with consideration of any medications you take (including over the counter products) before an effective diet can be prescribed without serious consequences.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2010 at 12:56
I enjoy eating fruit, eggs and meat. Also, do some pushups and crunches, fatties.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2010 at 13:52
Originally posted by moe_blunts moe_blunts wrote:

I enjoy eating fruit, eggs and meat. Also, do some pushups and crunches, fatties.


No vegetables? That's highly unhealthy.
Oh, and by the way, post your pics before calling us fatties Angry





(but I still wonder how you discovered it anyway... I never posted my photo, no one can know I'm overweighted!).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 03 2010 at 23:24
Balance Balance Balance with a side of moderation.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2010 at 01:28
Everything in moderation, especially moderation.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2010 at 08:16

Eat less and do more exercise!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2010 at 08:56

Beer and donuts.  Thumbs Up

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