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halabalushindigus
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Posted: January 30 2010 at 01:28 | ||
Having listened to Revolver as a child, I heard the U.S. Version, which omits 3 songs. So it was years later that the transformative effect which I think Dean is talking about became a unique experience for me .when I heard it the very first time. This experience is timeless to me. The song is "I'm Only Sleeping" and as it is ending, it fades out while guitars are playing backwards, then silence, then the brushing of the Tabla ( I'm really not sure if its a Sitar exactly)
I can't explain how this moment tweaks my mind, but it does
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halabalushindigus
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 05 2009 Location: San Diego Status: Offline Points: 1438 |
Posted: January 30 2010 at 01:37 | ||
Let me edit my last statement
...the transformative effect that ATAVACHRON was mentioning
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Floydman
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Posted: January 30 2010 at 15:44 | ||
The Beatles incorporated sounds, textures and recording techniques that were not commonly associated with pop music and rock music. The example are numerous ranging from running a series of loops though a recording console or writing and recording backward parts. Listen to some of “Strawberry Fields Forever” demos, there is a definite feeling that this was a groundbreaking song. It doesn't fit into any R'n R / folk /Muscle Shoals(?) template does it? So they had to invent a whole new musical vocab. to accommodate the song. This obviously had an influence on the Rolling Stones psychedelic period and everyone else. The Beatles were known for their melodies and odd chord progressions they changed how musicians thought of the album just ask Brian Wilson. Robert Fripp of the pioneering progressive rock band King Crimson said on Cambridge Guide to the Beatles his goal was to build on what the Beatles did on Sgt Pepper. Edited by Floydman - January 30 2010 at 15:45 |
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J-Man
Prog Reviewer Joined: August 07 2008 Location: Philadelphia,PA Status: Offline Points: 7826 |
Posted: January 30 2010 at 16:16 | ||
Glad to see another person converted to The Beatles! I never thought I'd hear that from you!
Out of curiosity, what's your opinion of Abbey Road? I think that's their best album by a large margin... -Jeff |
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jammun
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Posted: January 30 2010 at 21:19 | ||
You'd better listen to Rain/Paperback Writer Taking nothing away from the early stuff, that's where the band turned the corner.
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halabalushindigus
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Posted: January 30 2010 at 22:41 | ||
yeah, but I still dig the early stuff like Paul's rippin' bass on "Little Child"
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MovingPictures07
Prog Reviewer Joined: January 09 2008 Location: Beasty Heart Status: Offline Points: 32181 |
Posted: January 30 2010 at 23:27 | ||
Abbey Road is my 2nd favorite; it's pretty good. I'd say from Sgt. Pepper's to Abbey Road everything is pretty good. Before Sgt. Pepper's, Revolver and Rubber Soul are alright; still don't care for much before that, and not really impressed or familiar with Let It Be.
However... the White Album TOTALLY blew me away beyond belief and I believe that it is by far their best work---despite how accomplished Sgt. Pepper's, Abbey Road, and Magical Mystery Tour are. That's just my take on it.
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akamaisondufromage
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Posted: January 31 2010 at 07:27 | ||
^ All these albums are great. And for me it's The White One that floats my boat. But take these 'large margins' and 'by fars' with a pinch of salt - neither is true. Listen and enjoy!
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SgtPepper67
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Posted: January 31 2010 at 09:30 | ||
I totally dig the early stuff, of course it doesn't compare to what came later but I even think it's a bit underrated. A Hard Day's Night and Help surely deserves a listen if you already got into the post Rubber Soul albums, they already started devolping their songwriting on those albums. |
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MovingPictures07
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Posted: January 31 2010 at 14:12 | ||
I agree; from Sgt. Pepper's to Abbey Road are all really good.
I am just absolutely astounded at how good The White Album is, I can't get enough of that one specifically.
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micky
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Posted: January 31 2010 at 21:00 | ||
^ better late than never I guess... the Beatles are the Beatles for a reason. They aren't the brain child of some evil L.A. publicist and a load of style over substance... they are who they are because they made the music that defined and directly inspired the most incredible era of popular music, maybe ever, and still resonate with people, old and young today.
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: January 31 2010 at 21:34 | ||
God I hate agreeing with this critter but damn his eyes, he's right. Anyone who is even tenuously employed within popular music of any genre in any capacity and is NOT influenced by the Beatles: Time for a career change doncha think ? |
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MovingPictures07
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Posted: January 31 2010 at 22:16 | ||
That's true.
My misconception was basely purely on two things: that I still had somewhat of a barrier against "popular" music (which I'm glad for not having anymore) and I therefore misjudged them based on most of what I had heard to be pretty generic. My brother's favorite Beatles albums are Please Please Me and Help!, so my first actual exposures to the Beatles were me wondering, "And this is it?"
I'm just glad I've finally sat down and given them proper evaluations rather than usually hearing songs out of context. Edited by MovingPictures07 - January 31 2010 at 22:17 |
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rogerthat
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Posted: January 31 2010 at 22:20 | ||
That's exactly like how I could not convince progheads who had only heard Owner of a lonely heart to take Yes seriously, as a prog rock band that is...likewise with those who had heard only pop-Genesis. |
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MovingPictures07
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Posted: January 31 2010 at 22:31 | ||
Yeah, as I was playing Beatles Rock Band I began to notice that they weren't all like that (even though those early ones are still not HORRIBLE, just nothing that excites me) and I noticed the really subtle genius moments in their music. I began to think that perhaps I had pulled one of those moments; I never suspected it before because I had enough evidence otherwise to conclude they were mostly just a pop band.
I'm so glad I was just being closed-minded. Needless to say, this was the last huge step in my musical development pretty much; I've branched out to find so much good music in many areas and this was the last logical step for me to take before eradicating all the barriers keeping me from discovering a whole lot of things.
It was also a time/priority factor... I just figured there were so many other acts that deserved my time more than giving the Beatles an actual sit-through evaluation. I'm happy I've gotten around to it, as there really is some good stuff despite the earlier material.
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TODDLER
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Posted: February 01 2010 at 10:06 | ||
The early growth or that explosion of Beatle mania, kids my age were astonished by their hair style and music. The change in social environment at that time was shocking to us. We knew about Chuck Berry and 50's rock n' roll but, this was a different style to what we ever heard in rock. Many kids that heard John Lennon sing "Twist and Shout" were taken over with ecstasy. When I rode the school bus, the kids were always singing Beatle songs. It was a very unusual time. The Beatles were English and contained a sound that was very alien to us but yet hypnotized us all. By the time the mid to late 60's rolled around, the Beatles were changing and many of us lost identity with the source of The Beatles. Peer pressure to not listen to strange songs like Strawberry Fields Forever. A strange little ditty but in poetic vain. Parents were concerned over the hippie age. That music was groundbreaking to musicians everywhere. The impact of late 60's Beatles had seasoned musicians up late at night lifting the tone arms of their turntables endlessly attempting to educate themselves in the area of artistic songwriting.After the mis-quoted Christ statement from John Lennon, the school staff was on our case quite a bit, as they made attempts to ban Beatles music from the school environment. Parents reacted harshly towards all my friends. John tried to explain it had more to do with the natural way he talked but, most people would not buy into it. Everyone in high school hung on for their lives. Everyone discreetly stuck to their guns and the Beatles remained with us in spirit. |
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mystic fred
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Posted: February 01 2010 at 12:17 | ||
Corny but true - The Beatles' music was the soundtrack to my life, along with many other artists of course, but the earliest songs have a special place for me, i first heard "Love Me Do" in 1962 and was hooked, the hook is still in but has gone a lot deeper over the years, and i will be buried with it still firmly lodged there..
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JLocke
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Posted: February 01 2010 at 15:14 | ||
As I said to you earlier; I knew your taste in music was too good to stay away from these guys forever.
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TODDLER
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Posted: February 09 2010 at 21:11 | ||
What kind of a world is it when 2 of the Beatles are dead and all 4 of the Monkees are still alive?
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JLocke
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Posted: February 09 2010 at 23:32 | ||
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