Forum Home Forum Home > Other music related lounges > General Music Discussions
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Post-Punk for beginners
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Topic ClosedPost-Punk for beginners

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1 2345>
Author
Message
A B Negative View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: May 02 2006
Location: Methil Republic
Status: Offline
Points: 1594
Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2010 at 14:32
Originally posted by theBox theBox wrote:

I can't believe I'm always the ONLY one who is  recommending AND ALSO THE TREES!!!!! Best post punk/new wave/ dark wave band EVER! Check out "Farewell to the shade", "the millpond years", "virus meadow", "green is the sea".

edit: oh...and how could I forget...

The Chameleons - Script of the Bridge
Sad Lovers And Giants - Epic Garden Music
 
I saw And Also The Trees support The Cure around 1984/5. I think I've still got a badge somewhere.
 
I bought quite a few Chameleons albums when they were first reissued some years ago, great band!
"The disgusting stink of a too-loud electric guitar.... Now, that's my idea of a good time."
Back to Top
Syzygy View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: December 16 2004
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Points: 7003
Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2010 at 16:37
Originally posted by Sckxyss Sckxyss wrote:

Originally posted by whydontyoueatcarrots whydontyoueatcarrots wrote:

This Heat - Deceit.

On the dark side of things, critiqued as being the bridge between post-punk and krautrock. Deceit is their most song oriented album, most of their stuff is more improvised/noisey. I like all their stuff, but they were really my intro to the genre.

I'm surprised this has been the only mention of This Heat so far. They seem like they would be the most appealing to fans of prog/kraut. I much prefer this brand of post punk to the poppier forms.

Other great post-punk bands that have some avant-rock tendencies are Pere Ubu (mentioned before) and The Pop Group. Thumbs Up
This Heat are already on the site, which is maybe why they haven't been mentioned much.
 
I absolutely agree about Pere Ubu - still going strong and still sporadically wonderful - and also David Thomas' solo projects, which have featured RIO musicians like Chris Cutler and Lindsay Cooper (there's quite a lot available on emusic). The Pop Group were also fabulous, and don't forget the spin offs Rip Rig and Panic and Pigbag.
 
One band that hasn't been mentioned is Scritti Politti - their early recordings were very angular post punk, now compiled on the CD 'Early', and the first album proper 'Songs To Remember' is very much of a piece with Robert Wyatt's 80s output (in fact Wyatt puts in a guest appearance). After that they became increasingly glossy and commercial until they re-emerged a couple of years back with White Bread, Black Beer, which was a return of sorts to their DIY roots.
 
As for The Fall, I'm definitely a fan - I particularly recommend Grotesque and Hex Enduction Hour. I'm currently reading Mark E Smith's sort of autobiography and it's a riot. Persevere with them, they'll make sense eventually.
'Like so many of you
I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'

Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom


Back to Top
Prog-jester View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: June 05 2005
Location: Love Beach
Status: Offline
Points: 5871
Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2010 at 12:22
The Chameleons is my fave band from all of these, alongside with The Smiths and The Cure. Also I'd recommend The Sound, Lowlife, Red Temple Spirits (Psychedelic Post-Punk!), And Also the Trees, Television and Felt
Back to Top
manch1ech00ta View Drop Down
Forum Groupie
Forum Groupie


Joined: December 13 2009
Location: reykjavík
Status: Offline
Points: 51
Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2010 at 13:06
oh no man not Post Punk, you should leave that sh*t alone, it doesn't get much lamer than Post-Punk ...Big smile
Back to Top
Dean View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout

Joined: May 13 2007
Location: Europe
Status: Offline
Points: 37575
Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2010 at 13:37
Originally posted by manch1ech00ta manch1ech00ta wrote:

oh no man not Post Punk, you should leave that sh*t alone, it doesn't get much lamer than Post-Punk ...Big smile
The smiley emoticon isn't doing any good here. If you don't like Post Punk I suggest you leave this thread alone and stick to what you do like.
What?
Back to Top
The Hemulen View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: July 31 2004
Location: UK
Status: Offline
Points: 5964
Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2010 at 13:56
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by manch1ech00ta manch1ech00ta wrote:

oh no man not Post Punk, you should leave that sh*t alone, it doesn't get much lamer than Post-Punk ...Big smile
The smiley emoticon isn't doing any good here. If you don't like Post Punk I suggest you leave this thread alone and stick to what you do like.


Well said.

Personally, it's becoming increasingly clear to me (as others in this thread have suggested) that post-punk was in many ways the true successor to prog in the 80's. There's a freshness and sense of genuine innovation and experimentation on a lot of post-punk albums which is entirely lacking from a lot of 80's prog.

When I was a teenager I wouldn't have touched a band which wasn't in some way related to prog, but I'm through with being a snob these days. There's too much incredible music out there to go dismissing entire genres out of hand.
Back to Top
SaltyJon View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: February 08 2008
Location: Location
Status: Offline
Points: 28772
Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2010 at 14:34
The only two bands I've seen mentioned here that I've heard much by are Talking Heads and Violent Femmes.  I've enjoyed what I've heard by both of them, with TH's Remain in Light being one of my top 20 CDs.  I feel like I should explore further into the genre.
Back to Top
akamaisondufromage View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar
VIP Member

Joined: May 16 2009
Location: Blighty
Status: Offline
Points: 6797
Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2010 at 14:38
Originally posted by manch1ech00ta manch1ech00ta wrote:

oh no man not Post Punk, you should leave that sh*t alone, it doesn't get much lamer than Post-Punk ...Big smile
 
No Salty, You should heed this very stern and learned warning - Its LameLOL
 
Seriously give it a go there will be something you like on this thread. 
Help me I'm falling!
Back to Top
SaltyJon View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: February 08 2008
Location: Location
Status: Offline
Points: 28772
Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2010 at 14:42
Originally posted by akamaisondufromage akamaisondufromage wrote:

Originally posted by manch1ech00ta manch1ech00ta wrote:

oh no man not Post Punk, you should leave that sh*t alone, it doesn't get much lamer than Post-Punk ...Big smile
 
No Salty, You should heed this very stern and learned warning - Its LameLOL
 
Seriously give it a go there will be something you like on this thread. 

Yeah somehow I've been recommended some of these bands already, I seem to remember hearing about The Fall and a few others back when I was interested in modern bands introduced by Krautrock...not sure if that's a valid comparison, but they got added to my wishlist somehow. LOL 
Back to Top
akamaisondufromage View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar
VIP Member

Joined: May 16 2009
Location: Blighty
Status: Offline
Points: 6797
Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2010 at 14:51
Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

Originally posted by akamaisondufromage akamaisondufromage wrote:

Originally posted by manch1ech00ta manch1ech00ta wrote:

oh no man not Post Punk, you should leave that sh*t alone, it doesn't get much lamer than Post-Punk ...Big smile
 
No Salty, You should heed this very stern and learned warning - Its LameLOL
 
Seriously give it a go there will be something you like on this thread. 

Yeah somehow I've been recommended some of these bands already, I seem to remember hearing about The Fall and a few others back when I was interested in modern bands introduced by Krautrock...not sure if that's a valid comparison, but they got added to my wishlist somehow. LOL 
 
Well, The Fall (Who I love) did a song called I am Damo Suzuki so you can see the influence on them and others.  But, it doesn't figure that if you like Krautrock you will like The Fall. 
Help me I'm falling!
Back to Top
SaltyJon View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: February 08 2008
Location: Location
Status: Offline
Points: 28772
Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2010 at 14:58
Originally posted by akamaisondufromage akamaisondufromage wrote:

Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

Originally posted by akamaisondufromage akamaisondufromage wrote:

Originally posted by manch1ech00ta manch1ech00ta wrote:

oh no man not Post Punk, you should leave that sh*t alone, it doesn't get much lamer than Post-Punk ...Big smile
 
No Salty, You should heed this very stern and learned warning - Its LameLOL
 
Seriously give it a go there will be something you like on this thread. 

Yeah somehow I've been recommended some of these bands already, I seem to remember hearing about The Fall and a few others back when I was interested in modern bands introduced by Krautrock...not sure if that's a valid comparison, but they got added to my wishlist somehow. LOL 
 
Well, The Fall (Who I love) did a song called I am Damo Suzuki so you can see the influence on them and others.  But, it doesn't figure that if you like Krautrock you will like The Fall. 

Yeah I didn't sense much of a connection when I listened to tracks by them on Youtube.
Back to Top
Tsevir Leirbag View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: May 03 2009
Location: Montréal
Status: Offline
Points: 8321
Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 28 2010 at 20:35
Originally posted by Trouserpress Trouserpress wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by manch1ech00ta manch1ech00ta wrote:

oh no man not Post Punk, you should leave that sh*t alone, it doesn't get much lamer than Post-Punk ...Big smile
The smiley emoticon isn't doing any good here. If you don't like Post Punk I suggest you leave this thread alone and stick to what you do like.


Well said.

Personally, it's becoming increasingly clear to me (as others in this thread have suggested) that post-punk was in many ways the true successor to prog in the 80's. There's a freshness and sense of genuine innovation and experimentation on a lot of post-punk albums which is entirely lacking from a lot of 80's prog.

When I was a teenager I wouldn't have touched a band which wasn't in some way related to prog, but I'm through with being a snob these days. There's too much incredible music out there to go dismissing entire genres out of hand.
 
Wow. I agree with this Clap
We listen to music because we like it. Not because it's progressive.
Les mains, les pieds balancés
Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers,
Un marin mort,
Il dormira

- Paul Éluard
Back to Top
akamaisondufromage View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar
VIP Member

Joined: May 16 2009
Location: Blighty
Status: Offline
Points: 6797
Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 13 2010 at 11:19
 
Help me I'm falling!
Back to Top
WalterDigsTunes View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member


Joined: September 11 2007
Location: SanDiegoTijuana
Status: Offline
Points: 4373
Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 13 2010 at 12:17
Originally posted by zappaholic zappaholic wrote:

Hmmm.... something must be wrong with me, because when I think of post-punk, I think of bands like Fugazi and fIREHOSE.
 
 


Those are post-hardcore. Mainly American acts featuring members from early to mid-80s hardcore punk.
Back to Top
akamaisondufromage View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar
VIP Member

Joined: May 16 2009
Location: Blighty
Status: Offline
Points: 6797
Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 13 2010 at 15:08
You can tell I'm Ill (Bored and ill)
 
 
 
Help me I'm falling!
Back to Top
The Hemulen View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: July 31 2004
Location: UK
Status: Offline
Points: 5964
Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 16 2010 at 05:38
Well, if we're just posting videos now...


Back to Top
lucas View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: February 06 2004
Location: France
Status: Offline
Points: 8138
Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 16 2010 at 10:27
Were Devo mentioned ? I think the album Q: Are We Not Men? A: We Are Devo!  answers the criteria of post-punk.
"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
Back to Top
akamaisondufromage View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar
VIP Member

Joined: May 16 2009
Location: Blighty
Status: Offline
Points: 6797
Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 16 2010 at 13:36
Originally posted by lucas lucas wrote:

Were Devo mentioned ? I think the album Q: Are We Not Men? A: We Are Devo!  answers the criteria of post-punk.
 
Yes and Yes!  Although they (I believe) were actually formed in the early 70s some time so maybe they should be AntePunk.  But Are We not Men is a classic. 
 
For me they were partially responsible for my slightly eclectic music taste as (Mentioned before) I saw them at Knebworth 1978 on the bill with Genesis - Tom Petty - Brand X (Who i didn't get at all) - Jefferson Starship. 
 
Devo were canned off by the 'hippies' and I loved them especially when they came back on stage padded up LOL skateboard helmets etc
 
 
Help me I'm falling!
Back to Top
Dean View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout

Joined: May 13 2007
Location: Europe
Status: Offline
Points: 37575
Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 16 2010 at 13:49
^ Devo were the highlight of Kneb'78 for me too.
What?
Back to Top
akamaisondufromage View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar
VIP Member

Joined: May 16 2009
Location: Blighty
Status: Offline
Points: 6797
Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 16 2010 at 13:58
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

^ Devo were the highlight of Kneb'78 for me too.
 
Yes I remember you saying you were at the front dodging the flying bottlesLOL
 
I thought Tom Petty was good too.  Cool Topper and shades!
Help me I'm falling!
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1 2345>

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down



This page was generated in 0.219 seconds.
Donate monthly and keep PA fast-loading and ad-free forever.