Post-Punk for beginners

akamaisondufromage wrote: I forgot Japan who must be the exception to the rule?   Doctor What evil person made you listen to Duran Duran (eeeugh )

Japan are here (added them myself), but someone disagreed very strongly with their addition - as you will notice if you look at the reviews of their albums. However, anyone who denies that Tin Drum is prog should have their ears examined.

Bonnek wrote: ExittheLemming wrote: The Fall - Hex Enduction Hour (the track Hip Priest was used on the soundtrack for Silence of the Lambs) The Cure - Pornography or 17 Seconds Echo & the Bunnymen - Heaven Up Here Television - (anything and everything) Siouxsie & the Banshees - Ju Ju and Kaleidoscope Talking Heads - More Songs About Buildings and Food and Fear of Music (after that... Nah) Monochrome Set - Strange Boutique and Love Zombies Wall of Voodoo - Call of the West The Psychedelic Furs - The Psychedelic Furs Magazine - (anything and everything) U2- October (yes, really) Patti Smith Group - Horses and Wave XTC - Drums and Wires and Black Sea Pere Ubu - The Modern Dance The League of Gentlemen - The League of Gentlemen (with Robert Fripp) The Teardrop Explodes - Kiliminjaro and Wilder The Fire Engines - Lubricate Your Living Room The Cocteau Twins - Garlands The Simple Minds - Real to Real Cacophony Aztec Camera - High Land Hard Rain Orange Juice - Texas Fever (an EP with 6 tracks) The list goes on... That list doesn't have Bauhaus so it doesn't count

You clearly have a keener memory than myself.

Been dipping my toes in post-punk pretty much regularly the last 4-5 months or so. Liking quite a lot of what I hear, but haven't really given it the time and concentration it needs. Great thread! 

whydontyoueatcarrots wrote: This Heat - Deceit. On the dark side of things, critiqued as being the bridge between post-punk and krautrock. Deceit is their most song oriented album, most of their stuff is more improvised/noisey. I like all their stuff, but they were really my intro to the genre.

I'm surprised this has been the only mention of This Heat so far. They seem like they would be the most appealing to fans of prog/kraut. I much prefer this brand of post punk to the poppier forms.

Other great post-punk bands that have some avant-rock tendencies are Pere Ubu (mentioned before) and The Pop Group.

I can't believe I'm always the ONLY one who is  recommending AND ALSO THE TREES!!!!! Best post punk/new wave/ dark wave band EVER! Check out "Farewell to the shade", "the millpond years", "virus meadow", "green is the sea".

edit: oh...and how could I forget...

The Chameleons - Script of the Bridge
Sad Lovers And Giants - Epic Garden Music


Edited by theBox - January 25 2010 at 14:53

lucas wrote: ^ And I can't believe that people throw in the same bag cold-wave/gothic/batcave, new wave and post-punk. All 3 are very different.   Very few of us gave examples of post-punk.   Script of the bridge (in my sig BTW) sounds like a cross between U2 and Cure, it belongs to cold-wave and I don't really see the connection between them and the experimental music of post-punk representatives : This Heat, Rip rig & Panic, 23 skidoo, The Pop Group, PIL...   If confusing new-wave, cold-wave and post-punk, we could cite as well Mission, New Order, Death Cult, Play Dead, Sex Gang Children, Skeletal Family, New Model Army, Furyo...

I actually think most of the posts have been pretty good here.  Defining post-punk can be pretty difficult and I would agree some bands wouldn't fit IMO U2 don't fall in here and you would be right not to put Mission here - nothing to do with post punk. But The Sex Gang Children for Example when I started to go and see them were called 'Positive Punk' and could easily be descibed as post punk.   No such thing as Gothic yet.

Dean wrote: ^ Coldwave was predominantly French form of Darkwave influenced by Cure's early albums

 

Dean wrote: akamaisondufromage wrote: Dean wrote: ^ Coldwave was predominantly French form of Darkwave influenced by Cure's early albums   Thanks Dean.  And what is Darkwave? Originally - any dark new wave (so pre-Gothic);  - so just about any band could be tagged, just as practically any new wave band can be tagged post punk if you think about it for too long; from the 90s on, it has been more narrowly confined electro-oriented Gothic.

 

^ that would be like thinking Marillion were one of the early Prog bands - which from 30 years later is technically but not historically correct.

Trouserpress wrote: Listened to Magazine - Real Life earlier. Fantastic. Thanks to the many many many of you who recommended that one!