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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 24 2010 at 10:49
Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

^ Re 'freaks' -In the states, in the mid-70s, if a person was 'cool', was comfortable around herb, wasn't uptight or judgemental, and hip to the right cultural cues, they were called a 'freak'.

ie "You know so and so, yeah, they're total freaks". If you wanted to let your friends know that someone was 'one of us', then they were referred to as freaks.

Hippie was already passe and considered a joke. Punk hadn't hit the heartland yet.


I don't doubt what you are saying is consistent with your experience of the US, but I've honestly never heard of such a critter (and neither have any of my Scottish contemporaries)

Perhaps social evolution cancelled its headlining tour of Scotland ? Big smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 24 2010 at 10:50
a hippie?

nah....  just an excuse these days for those who like to smoke dope and dream about about 'free love'. Talk about the epitome of naivety...


why do you think the 80's happened as they did...  the hippies learned what the world really was like and smoking dope and pretty flowers won't change it so they helped make it worse.  They all became Reaganites hahah.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 24 2010 at 10:52
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

The Hippy Movement died in 1969, the vestigages of which trickled through into the Glam/Prog era, but only as a fashion and music development, not as a lifestyle.


Yep, the Diggers even had a death of the hippie parade in 1967.  Wink

From the Wiki:
"By the end of the summer, the Haight-Ashbury scene had deteriorated. The incessant media coverage led the Diggers to declare the "death" of the hippie with a parade.[49][50] According to the late poet Susan 'Stormi' Chambless, the hippies buried an effigy of a hippie in the Panhandle to demonstrate the end of his/her reign. Haight-Ashbury could not accommodate the influx of crowds (mostly naive youngsters) with no place to live. Many took to living on the street, panhandling and drug-dealing. There were problems with malnourishment, disease, and drug addiction. Crime and violence skyrocketed. By the end of 1967, many of the hippies and musicians who initiated the Summer of Love had moved on. Misgivings about the hippie culture, particularly with regard to drug abuse and lenient morality, fueled the moral panics of the late 1960s.[51]"

It's kind of ironic, if the media hadn't made such a big deal about it, the hippie movement might have just been just a blip on the screen of history.  And maybe ultimately it will just be that.

Although the orginal Star Trek series episode
"The Way to Eden" shows that the hippie movement will live on and then again die in the future. LOL


Edited by Slartibartfast - January 24 2010 at 11:18
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 24 2010 at 11:03
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

The lack of spirituality in the modern world is a severe loss. It should be mandatory for politicians to use a magic mushroom for guidance everey three months. Their decisions could definitely not get any worse, in my honest opinion.
Actually drug abuse is quite common among politicians, but the drugs they use are mostly alcohol and certain pills. And they definitely don't use the drugs for spiritual purposes.
That's all we need. They are barely in touch with reality as it is and do enough damage with whatever substance abuse they do employ (though most of that abuse is abuse of power) - imagine the state we'd be in if all politicians passed legislation based on doctrines dictated to them by the mighty Thoth during some psychotropic trip. Angry
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 24 2010 at 11:15
btw: Yeah, I'm a Hippy... well a Gothic Hippy anyway.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 24 2010 at 11:57
Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

One of the major issues that many people have with the so-called hippie culture is the overwhelming smugness if it. Certainly suggesting that mind-altering drugs are somehow linked to spirituality is evidence that those drugs are bad for you or at least lead to fuzzy thinking.



As I said...bollocks.Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 24 2010 at 12:07
They are definitely linked to spirituality and have been so for centuries. That does not mean there can be no spirituality without drugs or that the use of drugs necessarily leads to spirituality , but tio say there is no connection at all is, to use SnowDog's expression, bollocks.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 24 2010 at 12:17
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

The lack of spirituality in the modern world is a severe loss. It should be mandatory for politicians to use a magic mushroom for guidance everey three months. Their decisions could definitely not get any worse, in my honest opinion.Actually drug abuse is quite common among politicians, but the drugs they use are mostly alcohol and certain pills. And they definitely don't use the drugs for spiritual purposes.


After careful consideration of your proposal, I'm inclined to think the world is better off, without the likes President Ahmadinajhad and Benjamin Netanyahu, making life and death decisions, while on high grade blotter acid..
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 24 2010 at 12:22
it might explain Berlusconi..   who doesn't think he doesn't love a  round of disco biscuits to share with some 18 year old flussie hahah

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 24 2010 at 12:37
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

The lack of spirituality in the modern world is a severe loss. It should be mandatory for politicians to use a magic mushroom for guidance everey three months. Their decisions could definitely not get any worse, in my honest opinion.Actually drug abuse is quite common among politicians, but the drugs they use are mostly alcohol and certain pills. And they definitely don't use the drugs for spiritual purposes.


After careful consideration of your proposal, I'm inclined to think the world is better off, without the likes President Ahmadinajhad and Benjamin Netanyahu, making life and death decisions, while on high grade blotter acid..

First of all, I would not expect them to make decisions WHILE being on drugs; that would be nonsense indeed. Second, most politicians are under the influence of drugs, whether you are aware of it or not. Most of these drugs are pep pills or the likes; in Western countries alcohol is a very important drug too. There have been several studies about that..


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 24 2010 at 12:46
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

The lack of spirituality in the modern world is a severe loss. It should be mandatory for politicians to use a magic mushroom for guidance everey three months. Their decisions could definitely not get any worse, in my honest opinion.Actually drug abuse is quite common among politicians, but the drugs they use are mostly alcohol and certain pills. And they definitely don't use the drugs for spiritual purposes.


After careful consideration of your proposal, I'm inclined to think the world is better off, without the likes President Ahmadinajhad and Benjamin Netanyahu, making life and death decisions, while on high grade blotter acid..

First of all, I would not expect them to make decisions WHILE being on drugs; that would be nonsense indeed. Second, most politicians are under the influence of drugs, whether you are aware of it or not. Most of these drugs are pep pills or the likes; in Western countries alcohol is a very important drug too. There have been several studies about that..

Are you mad? What is this randomness? We all know that alcohol is a drug, but comparing it to Magic Mushrooms is ludicrous. And what do studies about alcoho; have to do with anything in this discussion at all?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 24 2010 at 12:51

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 24 2010 at 12:55
I'm happy.  Approve
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 24 2010 at 13:05
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

The lack of spirituality in the modern world is a severe loss. It should be mandatory for politicians to use a magic mushroom for guidance everey three months. Their decisions could definitely not get any worse, in my honest opinion.Actually drug abuse is quite common among politicians, but the drugs they use are mostly alcohol and certain pills. And they definitely don't use the drugs for spiritual purposes.


After careful consideration of your proposal, I'm inclined to think the world is better off, without the likes President Ahmadinajhad and Benjamin Netanyahu, making life and death decisions, while on high grade blotter acid..

First of all, I would not expect them to make decisions WHILE being on drugs; that would be nonsense indeed. Second, most politicians are under the influence of drugs, whether you are aware of it or not. Most of these drugs are pep pills or the likes; in Western countries alcohol is a very important drug too. There have been several studies about that..

Are you mad? What is this randomness? We all know that alcohol is a drug, but comparing it to Magic Mushrooms is ludicrous. And what do studies about alcoho; have to do with anything in this discussion at all?

The comparison is indeed ludicrous, but in a different way than you think. You can use alcohol daily; you can't do the same with magic mushrooms; they would not work.
The discussion has come up because of the careless use of the word "drugs" in this thread. I merely pointed out that most people use drugs all the time, without even thinking about it. What people usually mean when they say "drugs" are psychotropic drugs, most of which are forbidden in many countries. And I definitely don't propagate the use of psychotropic drugs.
But I must say I don't like being ruled by politicians which are under the influence of barbiturates, amphetamines or alcohol any more than by politicians being under the influence of any other substance.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 24 2010 at 13:06
It seems like most of the people here have no conception of "hippies" beyond what they've seen in footage of Woodstock.  

Also, FACT Alcohol is worse for you than many of the drugs you people are complaining about people using.  


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 24 2010 at 13:08
We mean "drugs" as psychotropic drug as well you know. Its just petty nit picking really. We all knew what we were talking about here.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 24 2010 at 13:13
Originally posted by himtroy himtroy wrote:

It seems like most of the people here have no conception of "hippies" beyond what they've seen in footage of Woodstock.  

Also, FACT Alcohol is worse for you than many of the drugs you people are complaining about people using.  

Yeah....druggies always say that.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 24 2010 at 13:39
yeah.. .Woodstock was what hippies and hippiedom were ALL ABOUT hahaha. 


wasn't that the point of Woodstock.. it wasn't to get high... or to see the Who...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 24 2010 at 13:44
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

yeah.. .Woodstock was what hippies and hippiedom were ALL ABOUT hahaha. 


wasn't that the point of Woodstock.. it wasn't to get high... or to see the Who...
It all kind of fell to pieces at Altamont though didn't it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 24 2010 at 13:48
indeed...

as I said earlier Dean... the nativity of hippiedom....   smoking tons of dope might make you horny and give you the munchies... but it doesn't change the fact the world is a nasty, selfish, violent place.
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