Are You a Hippie ?

Moogtron III wrote: And look at the picture of your room in your sig.

Actually that's a collage and all you see was better organized that it appeared except for the LPs, many of which were water damaged by a house flood last year.  Not coincidentally, they were mostly below the pics I used.  Flood came in about 31"

But you know, I guess it was part of my hippie past to buy a relatively cheap house between two creeks that was actually built in 1955, in a mostly cookie cutter neighborhood, (affordable housing in a decent neighborhood in the US imagine that these days, because you will have to imagine rather hard) about a decade before the hippies came into being.  The lot was and is a wonderful place which I lived on for about 15 years (except for the flood thing).  About 9 years with my wife by my side.

I think she's got a little hippie in her, too.  For the past three years or so, we had been growing some vegetables and herbs in the front yard on the house side of the creek in pots.  Amazingly successful, the chili peppers in particular



Edited by Slartibartfast - January 24 2010 at 10:44

Hippie in me will never be entirely dead.

I'm not a hippie at all, I just wanted to say that the 90s were a great time for hippies in Eastern Europe. It has faded completely in the 00s, but I did get to witness it. It was nice.

BaldJean wrote: Henry Plainview wrote: Maybe this is unfair to the upstanding scholars of Eastern religions, psychadelic music, and modern poetry, but it is my impression that a core element of hippiedom is heavy drug use. If you want to waste your life away in a drug-addled haze, you are free to do so, but I am also free to judge you. ;-) and we are free to judge you. my parents were hippies, and I am pretty certain they still smoke the odd joint today (well, at least my mother does; my father sadly died of a heart attack a few years ago). with which I see nothing wrong at all. there is absolutely nothing wrong with the controlled use of drugs. the stress is of course on "controlled" here. that certain drugs are forbidden but others are allowed is totally arbitrary and varies from country to country. and most forum users, most probably including you too, use drugs regularly without being aware they do. cofffee, tea, cocoa or cigarettes are drugs too; they just happen to be legal in most countries

Edited by Snow Dog - January 24 2010 at 07:59

Dean wrote: Drug use was not invented by Hippies, nor has it ever been exclusive to them, but is a factor of every youth culture and subculture going back centuries, just as fashion, music and ideology are part of a particular "scene" -   LSD found a new home in rave culture Where acid rock gave way to acid house, Hippies gave way to Crusties, The summer of love was reborn In the second summer of love  Where the handpainted camper van Became the the handpainted combi van Ladbrooke Grove moved to Glastonbury, Haight Ashbury relocated to Chicago, Marrakesh moved to Goa. When the Freak-out became Trance. Beads became crystals, Tie-dye became Batik, Cheesecloth became hemp. And the dawning of the Age of Aquarius Gave way to afternoon of new age mysticism, The Peace Movement became the Peace Convoy   Old Hippies never die, they only smell that way.       Anyway, Hippies were never associated with Prog Rock. By the time Prog became the prominant music of youth the hippy movement was long gone and replaced by the Freak Scene;   wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freak_scene wrote: The freak scene was a term used by a slightly post-hippie and pre-punk style of bohemian subculture. It referred to overlaps between politicised pacifist post-hippies, generally non-political progressive rock fans, and non-political Psychedelic music and Psychedelia fans. The individuals moved between rock festivals, free festivals, happenings and alternative society gatherings of various kinds. The name comes, at least partly, from a tongue-in-cheek reference to the beat scene.

Not only in youth culture. Drugs have always been used for religious purposes too. Even the catholic church used frankincense, which is quite a powerful drug. When I was a kid it affected me a lot.


Edited by BaldFriede - January 24 2010 at 08:37

I can't remember.

Dean wrote: Drug use was not invented by Hippies, nor has it ever been exclusive to them, but is a factor of every youth culture and subculture going back centuries, just as fashion, music and ideology are part of a particular "scene" -   LSD found a new home in rave culture Where acid rock gave way to acid house, Hippies gave way to Crusties, The summer of love was reborn In the second summer of love  Where the handpainted camper van Became the the handpainted combi van Ladbrooke Grove moved to Glastonbury, Haight Ashbury relocated to Chicago, Marrakesh moved to Goa. When the Freak-out became Trance. Beads became crystals, Tie-dye became Batik, Cheesecloth became hemp. And the dawning of the Age of Aquarius Gave way to afternoon of new age mysticism, The Peace Movement became the Peace Convoy   Old Hippies never die, they only smell that way.       Anyway, Hippies were never associated with Prog Rock. By the time Prog became the prominant music of youth the hippy movement was long gone and replaced by the Freak Scene;   wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freak_scene wrote: The freak scene was a term used by a slightly post-hippie and pre-punk style of bohemian subculture. It referred to overlaps between politicised pacifist post-hippies, generally non-political progressive rock fans, and non-political Psychedelic music and Psychedelia fans. The individuals moved between rock festivals, free festivals, happenings and alternative society gatherings of various kinds. The name comes, at least partly, from a tongue-in-cheek reference to the beat scene.

It's interesting, but glib, to draw parallels with different generations as by that stage the counter culture had been assimilated by the corporate world into just another 'lifestyle' choice for its partying consumers. As much as I loathe hippies I do have a grudging respect for those who suffer the very real consequences of 'opting out' and having to fend for themselves without recourse to consumer benefits eg. the dole.

In Scotland circa 1985, most the of the hippies I knew were pony-tailed insurance clerks who swapped their pin stripes for cheesecloth after 5pm. Those who didn't work supplemented their dole income by selling drugs or pimping their girlfriends.

Where does Freak Scene come from ? No such interim youth movement was evident (at least in Scotland) prior to punk's arrival in circa 1977. It may have earned its revisionary author a nice lucrative information job in the city, but never existed full stop.

You either liked Prog or Punk in 1977 Glasgow and the former is inextricably associated with Hippies, regardless of what semantic nuance of sociology is yer bag.

Of course its a given that Hippies don't have a monopoly on recreational drug use, but we've already seen this argument unwittingly undermined by someone citing their use for 'religious purposes' - I mean wake up, those who believe in transcendental agents, miracles, the primacy of love and a cosmic architect couldn't possibly be mistaken for hippies could they ?

The folks who followed the dead around in the 80's and early 90's and later Phish probably were still hippies. I think that that social type is irrelevant now. Although I am in some ways a prototypical 2nd generation hippie, I never totally bought in.

^^Bollocks.

^ Insane in the membrain?

Edited by Slartibartfast - January 24 2010 at 10:44