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    Posted: January 15 2010 at 13:05
This guy facilitated the download of 21 million music files yet says he had "no intention to defraud copyright holder" and is cleared.

How does that work then? Does this not give a green light to other file-sharing sites?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tees/8461879.stm
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Points: 32995 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 15 2010 at 13:54
I dunno.
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It's simple, the answer lies here:

Oink did not host any music itself, it indexed the files users had available on their computers for others to download.

It's the same as with torrent sites. They don't make illegal filesharing, but their users use them for this purpose. It's up to the instances to decide if they punish the sites for making this possible, which is a very delicate issue. Up till now, I think Sweden is the only country where a torrent site was shut down.
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Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

It's simple, the answer lies here:

Oink did not host any music itself, it indexed the files users had available on their computers for others to download.

It's the same as with torrent sites. They don't make illegal filesharing, but their users use them for this purpose. It's up to the instances to decide if they punish the sites for making this possible, which is a very delicate issue. Up till now, I think Sweden is the only country where a torrent site was shut down.

This is true......
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Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

It's simple, the answer lies here:

Oink did not host any music itself, it indexed the files users had available on their computers for others to download.

It's the same as with torrent sites. They don't make illegal filesharing, but their users use them for this purpose. It's up to the instances to decide if they punish the sites for making this possible, which is a very delicate issue. Up till now, I think Sweden is the only country where a torrent site was shut down.


Isn't that aiding and abetting a crime?
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Points: 13536 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 15 2010 at 15:09
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

It's simple, the answer lies here:

Oink did not host any music itself, it indexed the files users had available on their computers for others to download.

It's the same as with torrent sites. They don't make illegal filesharing, but their users use them for this purpose. It's up to the instances to decide if they punish the sites for making this possible, which is a very delicate issue. Up till now, I think Sweden is the only country where a torrent site was shut down.


Isn't that aiding and abetting a crime?


Following this way of reasoning you can also argue that e.g. knives (or guns) producers aid and abet murders.
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No, because filesharing is not necessarily illegal. Normally, you can't just forbid something because it may be used for illegal purposes. Of course, this is the hypothetical situation on which the law is based.
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Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

No, because filesharing is not necessarily illegal. Normally, you can't just forbid something because it may be used for illegal purposes. Of course, this is the hypothetical situation on which the law is based.


It is if you're sharing something that is copyrighted.
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Points: 22989 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 15 2010 at 17:14
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

No, because filesharing is not necessarily illegal. Normally, you can't just forbid something because it may be used for illegal purposes. Of course, this is the hypothetical situation on which the law is based.


It is if you're sharing something that is copyrighted.


That doesn't contradict what I said.

Also, good example, Tuz. LOL
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