Oink music file-sharer cleared
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Topic: Oink music file-sharer cleared
Posted By: chopper
Subject: Oink music file-sharer cleared
Date Posted: January 15 2010 at 13:05
This guy facilitated the download of 21 million music files yet says he had "no intention to defraud copyright holder" and is cleared.
How does that work then? Does this not give a green light to other file-sharing sites?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tees/8461879.stm - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tees/8461879.stm
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: January 15 2010 at 13:54
I dunno.
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: January 15 2010 at 13:58
It's simple, the answer lies here:
Oink did not host any music itself, it indexed the files users had available on their computers for others to download.
It's the same as with torrent sites. They don't make illegal filesharing, but their users use them for this purpose. It's up to the instances to decide if they punish the sites for making this possible, which is a very delicate issue. Up till now, I think Sweden is the only country where a torrent site was shut down.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: January 15 2010 at 14:19
harmonium.ro wrote:
It's simple, the answer lies here:
Oink did not host any music itself, it indexed the files users had available on their computers for others to download.
It's the same as with torrent sites. They don't make illegal filesharing, but their users use them for this purpose. It's up to the instances to decide if they punish the sites for making this possible, which is a very delicate issue. Up till now, I think Sweden is the only country where a torrent site was shut down.
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This is true......
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: January 15 2010 at 15:02
harmonium.ro wrote:
It's simple, the answer lies here:
Oink did not host any music itself, it indexed the files users had available on their computers for others to download.
It's the same as with torrent sites. They don't make illegal filesharing, but their users use them for this purpose. It's up to the instances to decide if they punish the sites for making this possible, which is a very delicate issue. Up till now, I think Sweden is the only country where a torrent site was shut down.
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Isn't that aiding and abetting a crime?
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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: January 15 2010 at 15:09
chopper wrote:
harmonium.ro wrote:
It's simple, the answer lies here:
Oink did not host any music itself, it indexed the files users had available on their computers for others to download.
It's the same as with torrent sites. They don't make illegal filesharing, but their users use them for this purpose. It's up to the instances to decide if they punish the sites for making this possible, which is a very delicate issue. Up till now, I think Sweden is the only country where a torrent site was shut down.
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Isn't that aiding and abetting a crime?
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Following this way of reasoning you can also argue that e.g. knives (or guns) producers aid and abet murders.
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: January 15 2010 at 15:11
No, because filesharing is not necessarily illegal. Normally, you can't just forbid something because it may be used for illegal purposes. Of course, this is the hypothetical situation on which the law is based.
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: January 15 2010 at 17:11
harmonium.ro wrote:
No, because filesharing is not necessarily illegal. Normally, you can't just forbid something because it may be used for illegal purposes. Of course, this is the hypothetical situation on which the law is based.
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It is if you're sharing something that is copyrighted.
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: January 15 2010 at 17:14
chopper wrote:
harmonium.ro wrote:
No, because filesharing is not necessarily illegal. Normally, you can't just forbid something because it may be used for illegal purposes. Of course, this is the hypothetical situation on which the law is based.
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It is if you're sharing something that is copyrighted.
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That doesn't contradict what I said.
Also, good example, Tuz. 
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