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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2009 at 16:05
Oh well, I guess it's okay if everybody doesn't like Camel.  They were never one of my favorites anyway.  On the other hand, whenever the day comes that everybody turns their backs on Genesis is the day I'm leaving PA (or I may be one of the ones that abandons Genesis as well... what a horrible thought!Pinch)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2009 at 16:05
Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

I still don't have an amazing grasp on what exactly implies which genre and all, but I've always thought Snow Goose sounded more like "light Canterbury" or something than symphonic. 


I agree with you and Scott...I think Camel might be a slightly better fit in Canterbury.

I would call much of Camel's work "Canterbury Crossover," if that makes any sense.  LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2009 at 16:08
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

I still don't have an amazing grasp on what exactly implies which genre and all, but I've always thought Snow Goose sounded more like "light Canterbury" or something than symphonic. 


I agree with you and Scott...I think Camel might be a slightly better fit in Canterbury.

I would call much of Camel's work "Canterbury Crossover," if that makes any sense.  LOL


I see what you're going for there, it makes sense to me.  Is it time to break every sub-genre into sub-sub-genres now so we can include Crossover/Proto-/-Related specifically for each of the subs? LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2009 at 16:09
Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

I still don't have an amazing grasp on what exactly implies which genre and all, but I've always thought Snow Goose sounded more like "light Canterbury" or something than symphonic. 


I agree with you and Scott...I think Camel might be a slightly better fit in Canterbury.

I would call much of Camel's work "Canterbury Crossover," if that makes any sense.  LOL


I see what you're going for there, it makes sense to me.  Is it time to break every sub-genre into sub-sub-genres now so we can include Crossover/Proto-/-Related specifically for each of the subs? LOL

Lets do it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2009 at 16:09
Originally posted by gottagetintogetout gottagetintogetout wrote:

Oh well, I guess it's okay if everybody doesn't like Camel.  They were never one of my favorites anyway.  On the other hand, whenever the day comes that everybody turns their backs on Genesis is the day I'm leaving PA (or I may be one of the ones that abandons Genesis as well... what a horrible thought!Pinch)

Well, I was never big into Genesis, so I don't have to worry about that.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2009 at 16:09
Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

I still don't have an amazing grasp on what exactly implies which genre and all, but I've always thought Snow Goose sounded more like "light Canterbury" or something than symphonic. 


I agree with you and Scott...I think Camel might be a slightly better fit in Canterbury.

I would call much of Camel's work "Canterbury Crossover," if that makes any sense.  LOL


I see what you're going for there, it makes sense to me.  Is it time to break every sub-genre into sub-sub-genres now so we can include Crossover/Proto-/-Related specifically for each of the subs? LOL


Jesus said if we have faith as small as a mustard seed, we can move mountains...

...so I wonder how much faith is required to convince Ivan and Co. to move Camel to Canterbury.  Big smile

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2009 at 16:10
I believe that Pat will tell you as a member of the Canterbury team that they don't belong in Canterbury.

Edited by rushfan4 - December 08 2009 at 16:11
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2009 at 16:10
I'm betting it wouldn't go over too well since a majority of people consider them symphonic.  Ah well, what good are labels anyway? 

Oh, and...2000 posts for me! Big smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2009 at 16:12
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

I believe that Pat will tell you as a member of the Canterbury team that they don't belong in Canterbury.


Yeah.

But I think the main reason is it's just not worth the hassle, ensuing arguments, etc.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2009 at 16:12
Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

I'm betting it wouldn't go over too well since a majority of people consider them symphonic.  Ah well, what good are labels anyway? 

Oh, and...2000 posts for me! Big smile

We should randomly reassign artists to different genres one day, just to mess with people.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2009 at 16:13
I don't share this obsession with categorization.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2009 at 16:14
Originally posted by A Person A Person wrote:

Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

I'm betting it wouldn't go over too well since a majority of people consider them symphonic.  Ah well, what good are labels anyway? 

Oh, and...2000 posts for me! Big smile

We should randomly reassign artists to different genres one day, just to mess with people.


Or just drop the genres altogether and see how many people complain about seeing some of the RIO/Avant bands on the same page as symphonic. Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2009 at 16:15
Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

Originally posted by A Person A Person wrote:

Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

I'm betting it wouldn't go over too well since a majority of people consider them symphonic.  Ah well, what good are labels anyway? 

Oh, and...2000 posts for me! Big smile

We should randomly reassign artists to different genres one day, just to mess with people.


Or just drop the genres altogether and see how many people complain about seeing some of the RIO/Avant bands on the same page as symphonic. Tongue

That would be fine by me, but wouldn't the top albums list still be predominately symph.?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2009 at 16:16
Originally posted by KoS KoS wrote:

I don't share this obsession with categorization.


Neither do I.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2009 at 16:16
Originally posted by gottagetintogetout gottagetintogetout wrote:

Oh well, I guess it's okay if everybody doesn't like Camel. 


It's mostly the creeps in this neighborhood.  Wink  You'll not want for Camel fans in mainstream ProgArchives.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2009 at 16:16
Originally posted by A Person A Person wrote:

Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

Originally posted by A Person A Person wrote:

Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

I'm betting it wouldn't go over too well since a majority of people consider them symphonic.  Ah well, what good are labels anyway? 

Oh, and...2000 posts for me! Big smile

We should randomly reassign artists to different genres one day, just to mess with people.


Or just drop the genres altogether and see how many people complain about seeing some of the RIO/Avant bands on the same page as symphonic. Tongue

That would be fine by me, but wouldn't the top albums list still be predominately symph.?


Well, we could limit the top albums to 1 per artist.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2009 at 16:18
Originally posted by birdwithteeth11 birdwithteeth11 wrote:

Originally posted by KoS KoS wrote:

I don't share this obsession with categorization.


Neither do I.

Nor I, but some categories are useful. The sub genres on PA have helped me find music that is related to a band I already like, so they aren't all bad. The problem is when people argue about where an artist belongs, that is the point at which I stop caring.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2009 at 16:20
Van der Graaf Generator are  Eclectic Prog, they will never leave my genre.

Every other band is up for grabs and the falsehood of every other genre tag can be potentially proven.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2009 at 16:20
I remember my first Camel experience.  I still think "Freefall" sounds like The Allman Brothers during the instrumental break.  LOL

Anyway, I think Camel is a far cry from Yes, Genesis, Kansas, Echolyn (for a modern example) and countless other symphonic bands that have more robust arrangements.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2009 at 16:21
Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

Van der Graaf Generator are  Eclectic Prog, they will never leave my genre.

Every other band is up for grabs and the falsehood of every other genre tag can be potentially proven.


Oh, it's your genre, is it?  Stern Smile

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