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omri 
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 Posted: November 26 2009 at 12:04 |
I did not vote. I missed the choice "too early to say".
Reading the other posts here I was surprised to see people are blaming Bush for 9/11. No president can take care of any action done (or in this case, not done) by so many people. A president should lead the way and give direction.
I prefer the atitude of "let's speak" on the atitude of "I am the sheriff" so I think Obama is trying to do the right things in a better way then Bush but he should be judged according to his success and not according to his atitude and as I said in the begining it is too early to judge him now.
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Logan
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Posted: November 26 2009 at 12:05 |
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MovingPictures07
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Posted: November 26 2009 at 12:34 |
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Logan
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Posted: November 26 2009 at 13:01 |
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MovingPictures07
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Posted: November 26 2009 at 13:02 |
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Logan
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Posted: November 26 2009 at 13:04 |
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Epignosis
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Posted: November 26 2009 at 13:04 |
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Guys, put a sock in it.
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Logan
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Posted: November 26 2009 at 13:06 |
 Epignosis wrote:
Guys, put a sock in it.
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It seems I've put my foot in it. Back on-topic.
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MovingPictures07
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Posted: November 26 2009 at 13:07 |
Logan wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Logan wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Logan wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
p0mt3 wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
To answer the question in the poll: Hell no.
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Care to elaborate?
How exactly is he so bad that he warrants such a negative response?
Just curious. 
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You know my political views.
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Are you a radical anarcho-communist by any chance?
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No, I'm a sock.
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Not a radical anarcho-communist sock?
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Nah, just a sock.
My political views are "Sockian".
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I'm a great admirer of Sockrates.
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The T
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Posted: November 26 2009 at 13:45 |
I'm feeling disappointed. That's all I can say. I still believe he is a far better choice than any right-winger, but that's mostly based on ideology. He has been inept to make congress do anything. He has been more concerned in appearing on tv on a daily basis than in actually making his idiots do something. About the economy, nobody could've done miracles and have the US prospering again in less than one year, but I guess we're going in the right direction. About terrorism, I really can't understand people here, probably because I come from another country where insecurity is much more a daily thing than here. I guess, anyway, Ft Hood attacks were not his fault but the FBI's or whichever agency had to control that.
I think the lunacy of the right has not helped this government do anything anyway. All that repugnant tea-baggerin' and the ignorance about health care couldn't helped any president. I still maintain that color has had an effect on that (and I will not elaborate more...it is not necessary).
Let's say that if nothing has changed in one year, if things continue like they are right now in 2010, then he my vote would be a NO. Even though most presidents do some things right (Nixon-China, Bush-??-something-), I think people CAN give an overall appraisal of a presidency with a "yes" or "no" vote without being called out for it....
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himtroy
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Posted: November 26 2009 at 18:23 |
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No, but no worse than our other more recent, horrid presidents did.
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Atavachron
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Posted: November 26 2009 at 19:22 |
mystic fred wrote:
I see the poll is not going in Obamas favour..? 
You wanted change, you got it....so far....Obama is one of the best Presidents to gain office, from a British point of view his reforms on a new fairer Health Service, peace talks (though difficult and frustrating) and urgent changes regarding tackling climate change are spot on - you don't want another Bush, surely..? 
Obama can come here and be Prime Minister anytime if you don't want him 
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damn straight..right on Steve!
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mrcozdude
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Posted: November 26 2009 at 19:42 |
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There should be a question saying has any president done a good job I expect very few would still say yes
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Diego I
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Posted: November 28 2009 at 14:15 |
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Bad, really bad...
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Itīs dark, too dark to see...
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JLocke
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Posted: November 28 2009 at 14:47 |
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himtroy
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Posted: November 29 2009 at 22:14 |
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Ah Ron Paul....my boy.
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LiquidEternity
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Posted: November 29 2009 at 22:44 |
mrcozdude wrote:
There should be a question saying has any president done a good job I expect very few would still say yes
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That's about how I feel. Contrary to what might be popular to say, I don't think we've had a bad president in America for quite a long time (I'm not that qualified to say ever), despite some moral hiccups and whatnot. But they're in the spotlight for so long, under such intense scrutiny, and what with our media's desperate need to shoot us full of as much fear and distrust as possible, we tend to view each successive president as failing, worthless, etc... Depending on your point of view, of course. I sit right in the middle politically. I maybe feel strongly about two or three issues. Beyond that, I just want a president who won't screw over the country (hasn't happened yet, except maybe, if what the History Channel says is true, what Roosevelt did with the isolationist momentum up until we got blasted at Pearl Harbor; or maybe some others before him). Bush was stubborn and home grown. Obama is flying the exact opposite direction with a lot of soft-touch and careful backpedaling. Are either what I want? Nah. But what do I know? Obama is doing an okay job. If he gets reelected, he'll do much better next term, as he won't be as focused on keeping his image moving for a second term. But as he is now, I just don't see or hear much in the way of action.
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: November 30 2009 at 00:50 |
When he got elected I thought that despite my coming disappointment and the undoubted escalation we would see on other Middle Eastern fronts, at least Obama will end the war in Iraq while infuriating me in every other aspect of his presidency.
He couldn't even do that me that one small favor.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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manofmystery
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Posted: November 30 2009 at 01:12 |
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As a fan of the Constitution I'd say no but I knew that he was a socialist during the campaign. I'm not a fan of either party but I must say the 2010 and 2012 elections couldn't get here soon enough. I just hope America is still America when they roll around and that the government still allows non-SEIU members to vote.
Edited by manofmystery - November 30 2009 at 01:13
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omri
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Posted: December 01 2009 at 12:25 |
mrcozdude wrote:
There should be a question saying has any president done a good job I expect very few would still say yes |
Well I deffinitely will vote YES on that poll. FDR made a great job in many aspects (including pushing the USA to world war II against almost all Americans and thank god for that).
Anna Wilson also made a very good job IMO.
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is Barack Obama doing a good job ?
