I'm more pissed off with nearly everyone in Congress. Their behavior this past lifetime of mine has been shameful. I can't believe they get paid to pass pointless laws and shame our nation.

 

You wanted change, you got it....so far....Obama is one of the best Presidents to gain office, from a British point of view his reforms on a new fairer  Health Service, peace talks (though difficult and frustrating)  and urgent changes regarding tackling climate change are spot on - you don't want another Bush, surely..?

 

Obama can come here and be Prime Minister anytime  if you don't want him

 

 

 

Reading the other posts here I was surprised to see people are blaming Bush for 9/11. No president can take care of any action done (or in this case, not done) by so many people. A president should lead the way and give direction.

 

I prefer the atitude of "let's speak" on the atitude of "I am the sheriff" so I think Obama is trying to do the right things in a better way then Bush but he should be judged according to his success and not according to his atitude and as I said in the begining it is too early to judge him now.

 

I think the lunacy of the right has not helped this government do anything anyway. All that repugnant tea-baggerin' and the ignorance about health care couldn't helped any president. I still maintain that color has had an effect on that (and I will not elaborate more...it is not necessary).

 

Let's say that if nothing has changed in one year, if things continue like they are right now in 2010, then he my vote would be a NO. Even though most presidents do some things right (Nixon-China, Bush-??-something-), I think people CAN give an overall appraisal of a presidency with a "yes" or "no" vote without being called out for it....

That doesn't answer my question.

Is this going to turn into our Beatles debate all over again, or can you give a real answer this time? Why you detest Obama so much? Disagreeing with his politics is very different from going out of your way to share your dislike of him, especially when askd a simple yes or no question .

Me? I think if the healthcare bill doesn;t have the public option in it, it's worth killing. He's certainly much too Liberal for my tastes, but do I hate him? No I do not.

Personally, I wish Ron Paul would have gotten further in the republican race, but of course all those idiot neo-cons ostracised him from their group and tried to depict him as a loon. So instead we got John McCain and Sarah 'I felt ambushed by Katie Couric' Palin running on the Republican side of things. Do you honestly think we would be any better off with those two running the country?

He couldn't even do that me that one small favor.

 

Well I deffinitely will vote YES on that poll. FDR made a great job in many aspects (including pushing the USA to world war II against almost all Americans and thank god for that).

Anna Wilson also made a very good job IMO.

Uhhhh, ok?

I really do love what the left does when they have no interest in dealing with actual issues.  Sure, Barry is ignoring the Constitution and steering the country towards socialism at warp speed but how bout that Sarah Palin huh, don't you just hate her because uhhh, ummm.  Don't you guys all just want to destroy her because she happens to be a successful conservative woman!  Get the pitchforks!!!

 

Nah I'd rather destroy her because she is the greatest beacon of political ignorance I can possibly think of. That she is actually popular and thought of as good in any way besides her ability to repeat key conservative ideals and look purdy like a Miss America model, vapid and painfully grating.

 

Also, I'll never vote for anyone who voices the opinion that science and creationism should both be taught in schools. If you don't respect science, I wouldn't trust her with a glass of hot water, let alone any form of power.

 

And Obama is not a damn socialist, for the love of God.

Never claimed to be a Palin supporter, certainly not picking a pony 3 years out, though I am willing to give her a little more credit than the majority of you are.  From an experience standpoint I do believe she was ahead of Obama preceeding the election.  The Governor of any state has to have more leadership experience than a Senator that rarely even shows up to vote.  Barrack Obama is nothing special, he's not the great unifier send from above the media portrayed.  Sarah Palin is nothing special but she also isn't the complete dunce the media portrayed her as.  I suppose as a regular poster on Prog Archive though, Henry, you do have a direct line to all information Palin, that you've read her book cover to cover, and that you've spoken with her many times on many issues; so maybe we should bow to your well thought out expert opinion.  It is funny though how you can complain about her supporters having victim complex then immediately start casting stones.  I wouldn't call it a victim complex, I'd say it is a backlash to the treatment she has received since she came onto the national scene.

 

As per the socialism: 

Socialism (American Heritage Dictionary 2009) - Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy.

 

Under the Obama administration the federal government has seized controll over the nations major car manufacturers and the banking system (which they had already corrupted by becoming so deeply involved with organizations like Fannie Mae that in the case of Barnie Frank that statement can actually be taken literally).  The current Health Care Bill, Obama's no. 1 priority, is no more than a jumbled mess of bureaucracy, taxation, and regulation that sets up for the a complete government take over of the health care industry which would allow the government (and whomever is in control of it; be it republicans or democrats) to control all aspects of your life which involve health which is basically everything you do.  And if you say, "I don't have to buy into buy a government health care plan"(and who could blame you with their asstounding efficiency) then just wait a few years when alternatives aren't avaliable because all the business', that once took care of employee health care, pass their employees on to the government system, which is payed for by all of us, leaving private insurers with very little ability to compete against the massive government system.  As private insurers lose the ability to make a profit (which for some mind boggling reason has become an evil word in todays America) they will fold up leaving those who had policies with these companies with the option of either joining the government system or going to prison.  Yes, the federal government, under the Obama administration, is seeking the ability to imprison American citizens for not not buying health insurance.  So, yes, I do believe that Obama's agenda is socialistic in that it seeks to not only move control over private industry to the central government (which the administration has already done) but also control over as many aspects of each citizens lives as possible (the administration has a "pay tsar" for christs sake).

 

Phew, see I usually stay away from these political threads because I was a political science major in college and already spend four years of my life standing up for the basic principals of this nation to professors who had never spent a day in their lives outside the protection of a college campus and the sheep that hung on their every word.

 

Note: I have been up for three solid days straight and chose to sleep over backchecking my writing for spelling and grammer errors (not that I'm all that picky on forum posts to begin with) so if there's something in there well, you'll just have to completely ignore everything else I've ever done in my life and throw me on the "dumb" pile.

 

It's a joke, and a hugely expensive one.  And I love how they lie about the cost, projecting 10 years out, looking at revenue for the full 10 years, but only looking at benefits post 2015. 

 

A huge waste of money we can't afford with little positive in the plan. 

 

Big thumbs down on Obama from here, and I voted for him. 

 

Not only for health care, but on just about every other thing to come out of his mouth to date.  

 

Have you ever left you home town , or your home state Manofmystery?  Have you ever seen socialism, pure non-market socialism direct to its face?

 

I hope you don't use the Fox News definitionn of socialism though. If so, hell, pretty much the whole f**king Europe and almost the entire world bar the US is socialist. 

 

Btw, I'm not attacking your consevative beliefs (which I think are wrong anyway but you're free to have them). I just react to calling things by names that really don't fit.

 

 

Well, I don't say he is conservative and that he is wrong... I'm a believer of liberalism but right now is so utopic as an uncorrupted politician so... but it's right... from the US common living is like everybody who said "poor" or "social rights" is a socialist... but hell..!!! Fidel Castro rings any bell to you...??? I think is for the way of education in the US... they even called "America" themselves and there's a huge continent outside with that name... so... it's kind of selfish and overconcentrate on their own but not learning nothing outside their own country...

isn't ready to pick off afew G.I.s. They've been real nice and friendly, but dont think for a minute they wont toast us. We are fools,especially Obama dancing around at the Ball. Our economy is weak and we have no barter power. Stop [playing Mr. Big Boy War Games because those europeans are sick uf us, plus they could use our real estate. I don't see America existing another 100 years Japan and the Russian Federation are the superpowers of the world. And Russia can toast Japan in about three or four minutes because of its location. Im sorry but times up Isreal, its your turn to go out and live in the middle of the med. Do something for The arabs for once.

Why doesn't Obama put a major tax hike on pornography sales. Like charging $169.99 for a new DVD

who REALLY CARES. The Politicians are all the same... I just bet you that The U.S. government has already sold California to the Europeans. Hence our crappy governer. Obama has Bush's Defense Plan Makers still in his Camp. It's obvious. When Obama was campaigning he never hinted once about sending thousands overseas to war. He was supposed to be the peacebringer because he was articulate, but now he is A PAWN. And he is AFRAID of the powers that be. Thanks Oprah, you rich people are all the same. I kinda wish goofy Goerge W. was around. At least he knew he was stupid 

 

I would suggest an increase in the amount of Thorazine to be taken every day...

 

This is NOT the change that people asked for... But maybe is the reasonable call. What do we know about war and foreign strategies? Let's wait and see...

 

Where I'm starting to lose faith is in the local front... In here, in the US, where unemployment soars and health is still a privilege...

Since matters of war are to be determined via the people and not decided by the President I would hope we know something about it.