Why did you reject Within Temptation?

Absolutely agree, one of my favourite gothic metal bands. And I would place them way over the other 3 bands you mentioned. But then, I am not sure the other bands should be listed either... 

You ok Mike?

^ if one makes claims like that I would always be interested in "why". You seem to think that Within Temptation is more Prog than Epica - I wonder whether you know all the albums by those two bands?

Ok, I think it makes sense to mention two things here which may be important:

1. Nightwish had been on this website long before the prog metal team was founded. Had they been discussed for addition at the same time as Within Temptation, my guess is that they would have been rejected as well.
2. The decision to reject Within Temptation was made long before Black Symphony was released. To be honest, I haven't heard it ... but if it does feature a successful blend of orchestra and (metal) band, then I think they should be added.
3. In order to understand why bands are here it always makes sense to look at their most progressive output. Someone might have heard the last two albums of After Forever and wonder why they're here - Invisible Circles is the album to listen to. With Epica you'd have to listen to the last two releases (and Score, a 100% classical film score like album).

UMUR wrote: cobb2 wrote: Absolutely agree, one of my favourite gothic metal bands. And I would place them way over the other 3 bands you mentioned. But then, I am not sure the other bands should be listed either...    I agree with the last sentence which I have highlighted with purple text colour. I think there is a general consensus that those bands probably shouldn´t have been added in the first place. Some will think otherwise of course but it´s my assumption that it is a general consensus. But I can see it from the point of view of the one who suggests Within Temptation though. The X and Y factor is definitely hard to come around in cases like these but we just have to accept that each artist is evaluated on their own merits and not because they have striking similarities with already included artists.

Thanks.

Someone here definitely lacks a proper understanding of how to behave in a public space. 

Someone here definitely lacks a proper understanding of how to behave in a public space.

I don't really care about what you think of my behaviour, because:

1. It's completely irrelevant to the subject.
2. I have a right to be a little bit angry about something as tragical as this.
3. To be heard, you sometimes have to scream out aloud instead of just posting some stupid submessage "hello, could you please put up WT?" As if they'd even consider it then, especially when it's already been up for voting once.


Edited by NaughtyShrink - November 21 2009 at 10:29

Keep it civil please. Insulting and abusive statements do not further your cause, indeed they simply alienate people towards you.

Well, sorry to tell you then, but isn't this some kind of meeting spot for prog.-fans? If you absolutely want me to start yapping then I actually have a lot more complaints about absurdities on this site. Bands like for instance Mew and Black Sabbath aren't prog. If you had asked them personally, I bet they'd say no, I mean come on, Mew isn't even rock, I like their music quite alot, but it's pop-music of the same genre as Coldplay.

And btw, those three counts doesn't have anything to do with PA, but with the world wide web in general, and thereby thay also apply to this site. The last count is a small trick called a psychological factor, nr. 1 is true, no matter how much you try to deny it, and about nr. 2 there is no law against that, and even if I get banned I don't even have to get a new email adress to create a new account. Believe me, I can be quite persistent.

I wish Toto was in PA but they have been rejected 12 times