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Poll Question: Death Metal Bds withan Vocallists who Don't Sing Tunefully
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2 [7.69%]
4 [15.38%]
6 [23.08%]
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 19 2009 at 22:09
I don't like those types of vocals at all. I've tried to expand my horizons and at least be comfortable with the Tech/Extreme sub-genre but the growls that frequently accompany the music is unbearable to me despite the hours I have tried to acquire the taste.
I can't fathom how that sound is pleasant to any ears but I really don't care if other people like it.
So while I would undoubtedly like the music better without the vocals, I can't imagine ever wanting to listen to such music so my vote goes to the final option.
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2009 at 06:35
^^ Opeth's Watershed might helpTongue

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2009 at 14:41
It truly is an acquired taste. Some vocals of the nature can be appropriate and superior to "clean" singing in the context while other times they can seem fairly out of place. I used to hate the vocals and in fact the first time I ever heard Mastodon I dismissed them for absolute garbage because of their singing styles. Over the years I've grown to respect the style of vocalization as much as singing. People must understand that is NOT singing, but rather an entirely different utilization of voice. There are times were the emotion, brutality, and darkness can be conveyed more thoroughly with these vocals than singing.

Some examples of bands that would be entirely different (worse) with sung vocals:







(However, it would be appropriate for Meshuggah to be instrumental or to perhaps have a second drummer. They use their singer as a percussion instrument, I kid you not, and it adds to the rhythmic insanity.)


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 21 2009 at 02:10
I think at least 15 of the top 50 bands, if not more in my last FM profile have death growl vocals. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 25 2009 at 14:10
Of course, it kind of goes with the territory.
People who don't like/listen to that type of music may find this tough to believe:
But all growls/screaming whatever are NOT the same.

Some I like, some I don't
Depends how it's done, how fitting it is of the music, etc
If done really well it can be the perfect compliment for the music
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 25 2009 at 15:34
^^ Definitely. When done correctly and at the right times, they really add a lot to the music.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2009 at 00:25
I've been thinking, do we really need more melody in music? Melody and harmonies have taken the most important job of music for centuries. Why not an atonal sound made by the voice take the forefront?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2009 at 01:33
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

I love growling when it's done right. Very low, guttural, evil... not the yelling screams of metalcore and related styles....
 
Agreed. Metalcore singers just don't get it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2009 at 07:32
Originally posted by AlbertMond AlbertMond wrote:

Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

I love growling when it's done right. Very low, guttural, evil... not the yelling screams of metalcore and related styles....
 
Agreed. Metalcore singers just don't get it.


Wait, hold on! I'm not that big of a metalcore fan, but don't put all of the metalcore vocalists in the whole world under one category. While many metalcore vocals do not impress me, there are some great vocalists in the genre.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2009 at 13:01
Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

Originally posted by AlbertMond AlbertMond wrote:

Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

I love growling when it's done right. Very low, guttural, evil... not the yelling screams of metalcore and related styles....
 
Agreed. Metalcore singers just don't get it.


Wait, hold on! I'm not that big of a metalcore fan, but don't put all of the metalcore vocalists in the whole world under one category. While many metalcore vocals do not impress me, there are some great vocalists in the genre.

-Jeff


Could we quote iwrestedabearonce's Krysta Cameron?
Yes, this band is not 100% metalcore, yet this genre may be their main influence.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2009 at 17:29
Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

Originally posted by AlbertMond AlbertMond wrote:

Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

I love growling when it's done right. Very low, guttural, evil... not the yelling screams of metalcore and related styles....
 
Agreed. Metalcore singers just don't get it.


Wait, hold on! I'm not that big of a metalcore fan, but don't put all of the metalcore vocalists in the whole world under one category. While many metalcore vocals do not impress me, there are some great vocalists in the genre.

-Jeff


Could we quote iwrestedabearonce's Krysta Cameron?
Yes, this band is not 100% metalcore, yet this genre may be their main influence.


Exactly

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 28 2009 at 20:26
I prefer Black and Metalcore screams to the deeper Death growls. I don't see why growls should have to be any more homogenous than clean singing.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 05 2009 at 23:01
Originally posted by dougiezerts dougiezerts wrote:

Do you REALLY enjoy listenning to death/black metal bands with vocallists who croak, belch, scream, and do everything but sing tunefully?


They have belching bands?  Wow.  Has that been done yet?  And if not, can I be the first? Big smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 06 2009 at 07:08
Using growls to emphasise a point can be very expressive, but growls just for their own sake just seems daft. Like making the same point over and over again. Just sounds stupid.
 
When using a growling voice as an instrument ALL THE TIME, it's a head-scratcher that you should use something that's even less versatile than a single bagpipe would be.
 
Might as well blow a comb that just has one tooth.
 
But then again that wouldn't sound threatening. I mean like a really mean wandering minstrel coming at you with extrremely bad breath as a weapon.


Edited by npjnpj - October 06 2009 at 07:09
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