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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 24 2009 at 16:08
feels like In Absentia by way of Fear of a Blank Planet with some other stuff thrown in
which by no means is a bad thing
also I like Drawing the Line, though I hated it at first


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 24 2009 at 16:33
HJere is  a BBC review/


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 24 2009 at 16:39
Originally posted by kenmartree kenmartree wrote:

Micky,  I saw the show in Portland OR,  last week.  Like you I love early PT and I do like some of the stuff since even some of the metal parts.  I will be interested to hear your reaction to the show so don't read a book thru the whole thing.  
 
Still ready to pick you up at the airport on your next visit to portland.  kenmar


Thumbs Up  I'll leave the book at home hahha.

I'll post my thoughts on the show... and I suppose the album.

This year wasn't the best time to head west while Raff is still dealing with issues regarding her old job and immigration status here... but next year... we are coming west for sure.  I'll be sure to take you up on that.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 24 2009 at 18:00
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Definitely the worst PT album since.... well, I think it's their worst ever. Still not atrocious (the band is too good to release an atrocious album) but I'll give it 2 stars. The epic is predictable and repetitive, and the tracks in the second disc are a complete bore. What happened with Wilson skilss for melody I don't know....
 
A disappointment...


thanks for the heads up Teo....  going to see them Friday.... I'll bring a book LOL
 
I wouldn't trust Teo that much if I were you... After all, I loved the 5-star album and concert of Dream Theater, while you walked out... LOL Maybe you don't need a book though... You seem to have mastered the art of walking out... I can't. I can't walk out of things. I feel I have to stay through whatever I attend, as terrible as it could be.
 
Anyway, the album, after repeated listens, didn't improve much. The epic is slow and repetitive, at times trying to recapture the Downstair era but with little success... The four songs in disc 2 are utterly forgettable... Wilson was not inspired...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 24 2009 at 18:24
Teo, if we walked out that time at ProgNation, there were other reasons than just not liking the music - like, for instance, not feeling 100% well physically. When you are not in the best shape, listening to five-six hours of music nonstop can be a bit taxing, and you will agree with me that Dream Theater can be a demanding listen even for their fans. So, I would not say that we have 'mastered' the art of walking outWink...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 24 2009 at 18:36
hahha... yeah... if I had mastered that talent I wouldn't have sat through an entire New Kids on the Block concert ...followed a week later by George Michael.   They at least put on a good show hahaha.

no wait... I did fall asleep during the GM concert ( I forgot a book).. so I guess I can't say he was better than DT. 

and I did have purely x-rated reasons for staying up for the NKotB.. so I guess that isn't a fair comparison...

anyway you are too kind Raff....we are old farts... but we walked out because the show stunk.. and we had seen the musical headliner one group earlier...


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2009 at 03:50
Quoted from the official Porcupine Tree site
"Meanwhile The Incident continues to appeal to fans both old and new - especially new. In Norway it entered the album chart at #19 whereas FOABP entered at #34. Finland had the album arriving at #11. In France, The Incident achieved the highest chart position ever for the band, coming in at #35, and in Poland it went in at #36. In the Netherlands, the first week position of FOABP had been #13 but The Incident charted at #5!" 

So, The Incident seems pretty succesful, #5 in The Netherlands is really good. This shows that more people are interested in Porcupine Tree that ever before, and that's a good thing I think. One could also use the argument that Porcupine Tree is going mainstream, but I think that's just nonsense. They have created some albums that are more accesible than the psychedelic soundscapes of early PT, but they still are an unique and very ambitious band. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2009 at 07:04
Good to see Porcupine Tree being taken seriously by the beeb. Thanks for the link Snow Dog.

I'm giving this album a daily spin, and I'm liking it more with each listen. After releasing a number of extremly good albums in a row, The Incident had a lot to live up to. I think the band have risen to that challenge brilliantly. I look forward to them touring. I wont miss out this time!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2009 at 07:23
I'm with Teo on this one.
I listened to it more than once, each next time thinking "YES, IT'S GONNA GET BETTER, IT WILL, WILL!" but it was just suckage from start to end each time.
It just left me feeling cold and uninspired at absolute best.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 27 2009 at 16:35
Im enjoying it.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 28 2009 at 18:33
Originally posted by Petrovsk Mizinski Petrovsk Mizinski wrote:

I'm with Teo on this one.
I listened to it more than once, each next time thinking "YES, IT'S GONNA GET BETTER, IT WILL, WILL!" but it was just suckage from start to end each time.
It just left me feeling cold and uninspired at absolute best.
 
I agree. I really think they are a bunch of standard songs, there's nothing that really impresses me. The songs flow into each other, but that doesn't really mean anything.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 29 2009 at 04:09
Personally, I think it's the best prog album for 10 years. This album encapsulates just what PT are for me and if it isn't heavy enough for the prog metalists, then I'm sure some Swede growling into a microphone over the next 6 months will go some way to assuage the pain of this 'disappointment' Wink

I expect all of the people who didn't like it to still attend the shows, preventing people who do like it and can't get tickets to miss out.

The 55-minute track filled me with trepidation; I remember wondering if Anaesthetise was going to be this 'monster' of a track prior to FOABP coming out and it turned out to be a mish-mash, a real nadir in PT's career. So The Incident worried me. I'm glad, because it blew me away. It has been on constant rotation since prior to its official release - I'm listening to it now and smiling at the Animals era Floyd homage - and I think Steven Wilson has finally realised that his band's future lies in producing this type of record; lets hope his flirtation with metal has passed; it tends to only appeal to knuckleheads and morons!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 29 2009 at 04:18
^ Thats interesting! I thought that there was a fair amount of metal in this album - in fact more than any other PT album. Imo the metal content has increased over the last few recordings. If you have not heard anything prior to FOABP then I think you may need to, so as to understand the comparison.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 29 2009 at 05:49
Originally posted by squonkuk squonkuk wrote:

lets hope his flirtation with metal has passed; it tends to only appeal to knuckleheads and morons!


Yeah, let's.LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 29 2009 at 06:01

"...knuckleheads and morons" OUCH! That'll get 'em hammering away at the keyboards in a frenzy of righteous indignation. Bring it on!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 29 2009 at 06:05
Originally posted by valravennz valravennz wrote:

^ Thats interesting! I thought that there was a fair amount of metal in this album.


I wasn't aware that the definition of metal now was any record that has a guitar in it? Wink

If there's a lot of metal in this album then it's the first time Wilson has successfully blended it together with his good stuff so that people like me don't realise it!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 29 2009 at 06:07
...as I am neither a knucklehead nor a moron, it cannot possibly apply to me Wink
 
As I said in another thread far far away, I think the post "Opeth" effect (ie the metal contingent) is far more restrained on this album, it's still there but not as prominent as it was, it's now just another dab of texture on Wilson's sonic pallette rather than being one of the defining styles.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 29 2009 at 06:13
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

As I said in another thread far far away, I think the post "Opeth" effect (ie the metal contingent) is far more restrained on this album, it's still there but not as prominent as it was, it's now just another dab of texture on Wilson's sonic pallette rather than being one of the defining styles.


Totally agree, but you put it far better than I did Big smile

I'm still waiting for Wilson's Abba fixation to have an effect on PT...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 29 2009 at 06:18
I think that the metal element provides a really nice counterpoint to the calmer parts ... the problem is how to integrate these elements organically, and IMO this was nicely done on The Incident.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 29 2009 at 06:22
Originally posted by Mr ProgFreak Mr ProgFreak wrote:

I think that the metal element provides a really nice counterpoint to the calmer parts ... the problem is how to integrate these elements organically, and IMO this was nicely done on The Incident.


I agree, but I'd like to add that this album seemed to have alot less focus - Most other PT albums focus on one area of music... Lightbulb Sun is mostly acoustic, Fear Of A Blank Planet carried the same lyrical (and musical) style the whole way through, but The Incident seems undecided on its stylistic content and flow...
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