New Porcupine Tree Album

I can't stand PT so this new album is total disaster. I was just listen to see how Wilson become more and more an alternative MTV dude.

rushaholic wrote: b_olariu wrote: I can't stand PT so this new album is total disaster. I was just listen to see how Wilson become more and more an alternative MTV dude. You can't be serious about this. Quite sure the last thing he wants is to be part of the "in" crowd with MTV and all of the "urban" crap or they play on there.  Haven't seen MTV in a while but quite sure it is full of Brittney and more of her ilk playing their poppy 3-minute tunes. He just made an album long song of 55 some minutes - hardly the stuff of MTV. Everyone needs to step back and take a little breather with this album.  All kinds of silly conclusions being drawn. I for one welcome the new direction and hope he continues to stir things up with his music.

b_olariu wrote: rushaholic wrote: b_olariu wrote: I can't stand PT so this new album is total disaster. I was just listen to see how Wilson become more and more an alternative MTV dude. You can't be serious about this. Quite sure the last thing he wants is to be part of the "in" crowd with MTV and all of the "urban" crap or they play on there.  Haven't seen MTV in a while but quite sure it is full of Brittney and more of her ilk playing their poppy 3-minute tunes. He just made an album long song of 55 some minutes - hardly the stuff of MTV. Everyone needs to step back and take a little breather with this album.  All kinds of silly conclusions being drawn. I for one welcome the new direction and hope he continues to stir things up with his music.    I'm very serious, I have nothing against them, I'm not intrested in their music, but from what I heared, almost all albums, from curiosity. But their music leave me cold, really, I can understand what's the fuss about them realy. Is just an opinion and nobody can change that regard to that.    I made a comparation with MTV because he tries to become more and more mainstream and alternative in sound, I don't like that, knowing his early works who sound diffrent isn't it????. So Porcupine Tree for me doesn't exist.

Hmm...

I love The Incident.

On the first listen it wasn't so good... I thought that, well, the sounds are awesome and the second CD has got some fairly decent songs but this is a bit of a disappointment. The second listen made me like the album a little bit more but it still wasn't as good as I expected.

But the third listen. Damn, it was awesome. The whole album just... came off crystal clear to me, seriously. I loved every piece of it. The alternative metal influences? Oh yeah, when PT goes heavy it succeeds. It has been proven many, many times and I love it. Circle of Manias? Would be even more awesome as a full-fledged song and not a interlude-kinda thing, but it's awesome, still. Bonnie the Cat then... It's just damn good. I so love it.

And back to the first CD's songs... Well, there's the short but yet so ethereal Kneel and Disconnect, the poppy (some have dissed this, why?) but great Drawing the Line, the "summerish" Time Flies (brilliant aswell) and of course, the epic I Drive the Hearse, which has probably the best melodies of the whole album. Then there's of course Degree Zero... and such interlude-kinda things which are a wise thing as well but don't  really stand out.

All of the songs on the second album are very good and I don't get why people call it the "throwaway cd" since the songs are actually fantastic...

When analyzing this, Insurgentes, everything else PT's done etc. I have come to the conclusion that  Steven Wilson is a genius. :)

It's a grower. I love it now.

b_olariu wrote: rushaholic wrote: b_olariu wrote: I can't stand PT so this new album is total disaster. I was just listen to see how Wilson become more and more an alternative MTV dude. You can't be serious about this. Quite sure the last thing he wants is to be part of the "in" crowd with MTV and all of the "urban" crap or they play on there.  Haven't seen MTV in a while but quite sure it is full of Brittney and more of her ilk playing their poppy 3-minute tunes. He just made an album long song of 55 some minutes - hardly the stuff of MTV. Everyone needs to step back and take a little breather with this album.  All kinds of silly conclusions being drawn. I for one welcome the new direction and hope he continues to stir things up with his music.    I'm very serious, I have nothing against them, I'm not intrested in their music, but from what I heared, almost all albums, from curiosity. But their music leave me cold, really, I can understand what's the fuss about them realy. Is just an opinion and nobody can change that regard to that.    I made a comparation with MTV because he tries to become more and more mainstream and alternative in sound, I don't like that, knowing his early works who sound diffrent isn't it????. So Porcupine Tree for me doesn't exist.

So why are you posting in this thread? If they dont "exist" for you than you cannot have heard the album....so why don't you go and troll some other thread?

The T wrote: Definitely the worst PT album since.... well, I think it's their worst ever. Still not atrocious (the band is too good to release an atrocious album) but I'll give it 2 stars. The epic is predictable and repetitive, and the tracks in the second disc are a complete bore. What happened with Wilson skilss for melody I don't know....   A disappointment...

thanks for the heads up Teo....  going to see them Friday.... I'll bring a book

micky wrote: micky wrote: Synchestra wrote: was about a 9, but after hearing the trailor its about a 7. it was good, but it wasnt Deadwing or FOABP good. ouch... not exactly endearing praise to those that thought those albums were Deadboring and have Fear Of A Ballyhooed Performance then again... maybe I'll love the new one since the last few... were...ehhh...  not exactly awe-inspiring. I was pleasantly surprised with the solo album

Wouldn't be too shocked. Thought FOABP was a bit of a wreck, hoped the new one would be bad enough to review under the tagline 'the accident', expected it to be a 55-minutes because we need to be more prog than a concept album. Was pleasantly surprised.

Micky,  I saw the show in Portland OR,  last week.  Like you I love early PT and I do like some of the stuff since even some of the metal parts.  I will be interested to hear your reaction to the show so don't read a book thru the whole thing.  

An interesting quote about Time Flies: 

Edited by Pekka - September 24 2009 at 14:38