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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 13 2009 at 14:31
Liuzzi was doing well too until his gearbox went.  It was a shame.

As for Hamilton... ouch, that was a tad silly now, wasn't it?

He'd never have caught Button with 2 laps to go and even if he did, he'd not have got passed him.  He should have just settled for 3rd.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 14 2009 at 05:36
I dont know, he'd closed to 1s behind and I think he was trying to line Button up for a go into Ascari or the Parabolica, whether it would have worked is another matter.
 
Personally I love his never-say-die attitude, I find it rather depressing to see drivers just sit back and give up on gaining a place.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2009 at 04:41

GOSH !!!!!!!!!!! Lotus is back in F1. Next year, we have four new teams, powered by coffee makers. Well, that's probably what the Cosworth engines is going to be. I do not think any of the cars will get any topline drivers so we have eight cars, powered by coffee makers and driven by mediocre drivers.

I am not knocking these teams. I just predict what will happens in seven month's time. This winter and the silly season is going to be interesting at least. Only five drivers have a seat. The rest is scrambling around the scene. This is the best possible entertainment. I am almost fainting in joy. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2009 at 04:42
Let's hope they have a black and yellow livery
 
Or, at least, all-yellow or all-black
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2009 at 05:52
^Red and gold wouldnt go a miss either.
 
The interesting thing is, BMW Sauber has been put in as the reserve team in case someone else drops out, but the FIA are talking to the teams to try and expand the grid to 14 teams and get them in anyway. I hope that works, the more cars the better.
 
I think there's going to be a lot of rookies on the grid next year and a number of older "journeymen drivers" seeing out there careers in the new teams.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2009 at 06:56
Like Fisichella, you mean? Wink

He sure isn't going to stay at Ferrari.  If he doesn't retire, then he may join one of these lesser teams.

And although Rubens is the oldest guy in F1, I cannot see him moving whilst he's in the form of his life (although the car helps too, of course).


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 16 2009 at 05:32
Fisi is the reserve driver at Ferrari next year, but that doesnt necaserally mean he wont race for one of the new teams (maybe even Ferrari, depending on how well Massa recovers).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 16 2009 at 07:27

Renualt confirmes that they cheated in Singapore 2008 !!! Briatore and Symonds has lost their jobs. 

That's just incredible. To win a race, they are more than happy to put other lives in risk. In fact; great risk. I never ever thought they were guilty, but I am now proven wrong. What has the world come to ? 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 16 2009 at 08:13
Oh wow.

I guess they thought the collateral damage would be less if they admitted to it.

But yes, gosh, for someone to be asked to deliberately crash (and therefore potentially risk their life and the life of others) is bad enough but then to actually obey their rules and do it, is something else!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 16 2009 at 18:01
The biggest surprise with this that i've read is that Piquet might have been the one to have suggested to crash in the first place! I find that hard to believe but is this whole sorded affair.
Does leave the question who is running the team now?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 21 2009 at 14:51
Don't know how old this is....but just heard the news about Renault.

This is insane.
So Alonso is f*cked?

I have to admit, I said before that Piquet really got a bum deal with the team. Maybe he wasn't too spectacular but I swear they had him done from day 2.....
I guess he could be called a snitch....but if I was in his spot, (and I can be a bit hot headed sometimes) f*ck Renault. Maybe I would've done the same
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 21 2009 at 17:37
Alonso's fine, Renault get a suspended ban (so there fine as long as they dont do it again), Briatore gets a lifetime ban from FIA sanctioned events (not just F1) and any drivers that he managers will from now on be refused a superlicense (thats Webber, Kovaleinen, Grosjean and possibly Alonso from the current grid, but it wont take mch for them to get out of there contracts) and Pat Symonds gets a five year ban from F1. Piquet, unfortunatly, gets away scott free thanks to Max granting him immunity. As far as I can tell this fair, despite the rubbish the idiot press are running about guilty teams getting awaywith heinous crimes, as the three people responsible for this scandal all got sacked from Renault (I dont for a second believe that Symonds and Briatore quit out of the goodness of their hearts, but were persuaded to) and have been punished for it (except Piquet).
 
The 2010 callander was announced as well today. There's 19 races next year with Canada back and a new race in South Korea that has just appeared out of the blue (they have 1 year to build an F1 spec track from scratch, I'm not exactly holding my breath). Melbourn and Bahrain have swapped places and we'll know in a by the end of the month whether its Donington or Silverstone that will be holding a race.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 21 2009 at 23:41
Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

Alonso's fine, Renault get a suspended ban (so there fine as long as they dont do it again), Briatore gets a lifetime ban from FIA sanctioned events (not just F1) and any drivers that he managers will from now on be refused a superlicense (thats Webber, Kovaleinen, Grosjean and possibly Alonso from the current grid, but it wont take mch for them to get out of there contracts) and Pat Symonds gets a five year ban from F1. Piquet, unfortunatly, gets away scott free thanks to Max granting him immunity. As far as I can tell this fair, despite the rubbish the idiot press are running about guilty teams getting awaywith heinous crimes, as the three people responsible for this scandal all got sacked from Renault (I dont for a second believe that Symonds and Briatore quit out of the goodness of their hearts, but were persuaded to) and have been punished for it (except Piquet).
 
The 2010 callander was announced as well today. There's 19 races next year with Canada back and a new race in South Korea that has just appeared out of the blue (they have 1 year to build an F1 spec track from scratch, I'm not exactly holding my breath). Melbourn and Bahrain have swapped places and we'll know in a by the end of the month whether its Donington or Silverstone that will be holding a race.


WOW. Flavio....lifetime ban....
Quite a way to end it all eh?
Everything you say is true, especially about Piquet. I guess it would be fair for him to be punished as well...but we all know those who snitch, (rough but true) get off fine.
I felt bad for Piquet's treatment at Renault....but I guess he has gotten the ultimate last laugh, and then some.

Great news about Canada, and I hope Donington gets the race.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2009 at 05:35

Piquet's "accident" could had hurt or even killed people. A wheel may have jumped over the fence. You do not and shall not plan incidents that endanger other people with the purpose to gain an advantage. Briatore got what he deserved and good riddance. 

I still not understand why dozens upon dozens of people was not killed in that Russian roulette Indycar race at Chicagoland one month ago. There is a big open-wheel racing accident waiting to happen and we are counting down the hours and the days to that accident.  

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2009 at 06:23
The side by side racing at 220mph is the IRL's trade mark style, and its also why Milka Dunno isnt allowed to take part on the Super Speedways (or wasnt, I dont know if thats still the case). The catch fencing is strong enough to keep any cars in the confines of the track, as Kenny Bracks 2004 career ending accident shows. Debris flying through the fence is a different matter but thats a possibility in any form of racing at any type of track.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2009 at 14:06

No, one or two cars can clear those catchfences. Which recent history has proven.

IRL has been incredible lucky so far. But the clock is ticking down to the big one where they, the gig promotors and the track owners will have to pay out hundreds of millions of dollars to the relatives of those who attended a race and never came back again. 

I hope I am wrong !!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2009 at 17:56
The Tony Renna fatal crash (Rip) showed that those fences in ovals are strong but not enough....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 23 2009 at 05:58
Renna went over the fence, but that was with the previous generation of IRL cars which had a serious aero instability, which saw about half a dozen drivers have serious airiel accidents, including Mario Andretti on his one off testing return. The current cars dont have that problem as Dallara spent a lot of time sorting it out.
 
I'm not saying a nasty accident isnt going to happen, because thats just asking for trouble, but the chances are fairly low.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 23 2009 at 07:36
I hope you are right and I am wrong, Sleeper. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 23 2009 at 09:47
Everyone's right, chances are low. And almost always the catch fences work fine.
But IRL is some crazy stuff. If there is never a major accident, it will be purely luck.
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