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Joined: January 04 2009
Location: Ohio, USA
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Posted: September 19 2009 at 22:09
I don't like those types of vocals at all. I've tried to expand my horizons and at least be comfortable with the Tech/Extreme sub-genre but the growls that frequently accompany the music is unbearable to me despite the hours I have tried to acquire the taste. I can't fathom how that sound is pleasant to any ears but I really don't care if other people like it. So while I would undoubtedly like the music better without the vocals, I can't imagine ever wanting to listen to such music so my vote goes to the final option.
Joined: September 20 2008
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Posted: September 20 2009 at 14:41
It truly is an acquired taste. Some vocals of the nature can be appropriate and superior to "clean" singing in the context while other times they can seem fairly out of place. I used to hate the vocals and in fact the first time I ever heard Mastodon I dismissed them for absolute garbage because of their singing styles. Over the years I've grown to respect the style of vocalization as much as singing. People must understand that is NOT singing, but rather an entirely different utilization of voice. There are times were the emotion, brutality, and darkness can be conveyed more thoroughly with these vocals than singing.
Some examples of bands that would be entirely different (worse) with sung vocals:
(However, it would be appropriate for Meshuggah to be instrumental or to perhaps have a second drummer. They use their singer as a percussion instrument, I kid you not, and it adds to the rhythmic insanity.)
Edited by Jake Kobrin - September 20 2009 at 14:41
Of course, it kind of goes with the territory. People who don't like/listen to that type of music may find this tough to believe: But all growls/screaming whatever are NOT the same.
Some I like, some I don't Depends how it's done, how fitting it is of the music, etc If done really well it can be the perfect compliment for the music
Joined: August 17 2008
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Posted: September 26 2009 at 00:25
I've been thinking, do we really need more melody in music? Melody and harmonies have taken the most important job of music for centuries. Why not an atonal sound made by the voice take the forefront?
Joined: August 07 2008
Location: Philadelphia,PA
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Posted: September 26 2009 at 07:32
AlbertMond wrote:
The T wrote:
I love growling when it's done right. Very low, guttural, evil... not the yelling screams of metalcore and related styles....
Agreed. Metalcore singers just don't get it.
Wait, hold on! I'm not that big of a metalcore fan, but don't put all of the metalcore vocalists in the whole world under one category. While many metalcore vocals do not impress me, there are some great vocalists in the genre.
Joined: October 03 2008
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Posted: September 26 2009 at 13:01
J-Man wrote:
AlbertMond wrote:
The T wrote:
I love growling when it's done right. Very low, guttural, evil... not the yelling screams of metalcore and related styles....
Agreed. Metalcore singers just don't get it.
Wait, hold on! I'm not that big of a metalcore fan, but don't put all of the metalcore vocalists in the whole world under one category. While many metalcore vocals do not impress me, there are some great vocalists in the genre.
-Jeff
Could we quote iwrestedabearonce's Krysta Cameron? Yes, this band is not 100% metalcore, yet this genre may be their main influence.
Joined: August 07 2008
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Posted: September 26 2009 at 17:29
CPicard wrote:
J-Man wrote:
AlbertMond wrote:
The T wrote:
I love growling when it's done right. Very low, guttural, evil... not the yelling screams of metalcore and related styles....
Agreed. Metalcore singers just don't get it.
Wait, hold on! I'm not that big of a metalcore fan, but don't put all of the metalcore vocalists in the whole world under one category. While many metalcore vocals do not impress me, there are some great vocalists in the genre.
-Jeff
Could we quote iwrestedabearonce's Krysta Cameron? Yes, this band is not 100% metalcore, yet this genre may be their main influence.
Joined: December 05 2007
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Posted: October 06 2009 at 07:08
Using growls to emphasise a point can be very expressive, but growls just for their own sake just seems daft. Like making the same point over and over again. Just sounds stupid.
When using a growling voice as an instrument ALL THE TIME, it's a head-scratcher that you should use something that's even less versatile than a single bagpipe would be.
Might as well blow a comb that just has one tooth.
But then again that wouldn't sound threatening. I mean like a really mean wandering minstrel coming at you with extrremely bad breath as a weapon.
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