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Roy-Mus
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Posted: September 18 2009 at 06:22 |
I prefer 70's Yes, Genesis and ELP, and although I enjoy some KC (In the Court, In the Wake and Larks' Tongues), and love the classical GG (being In a Glass House my favourite), I really don't get VDGG and because of that, I voted for Symph instead of Eclectic.
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TGM: Orb
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Posted: September 18 2009 at 06:57 |
TGM: Orb wrote:
My two favourite bands are on the eclectic side.
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Hm. Actually, my three favourite albums. And Crimson and Der Graaf Generator are both remarkably consistent.
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Noak
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Posted: September 18 2009 at 07:59 |
Eclectic all the way.
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Posted: September 18 2009 at 08:29 |
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The Acolyte
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Posted: September 18 2009 at 09:50 |
This is a very goos thread indeed, a very competitive one, very good choices to each genre.
On the symph side, i like Yes and Genesis early stuff...but i had not been able to like ELP at all...itīs amazing how hard i've tried.
On the Eclectic side, VDGG and King Crimson are amongst my all-time favorites, and with Gentle Giant i am now "acquiring the taste", so for me goes Eclectic! 
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rushfan4
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Posted: September 18 2009 at 09:59 |
Symphonic for me.
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Badabing666
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Posted: September 18 2009 at 10:13 |
I didn't really know any eclectic music until I joined PA and am thoroughly enjoying discovering VDGG back catalogue together with many of the newer bands of that genre. But for now given the choices above it has to be symphonic for me.
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SonicDeath10
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Posted: September 18 2009 at 11:03 |
This was really hard for me. Genesis is one of my favorite bands ever, as is Yes and ELP. However, like someone else said, King Crimson is better than either Yes or ELP (not Geneiss though, I hold to that). VDGG and Gentle Giant are also minor favorites of mine. I love the works of Genesis, Yes, and ELP an incredible amount, but when I consider how much they changed over time, I can't help but feel that the eclectic bands win the battle. I'm on record here as defending Genesis's post-Hacket period as being incredibly valid and artistic, but there's no doubt this change lost them a ton of fans. ELP's post Work's period is remarkably awful, though even on Love Beach there is some worthwhile music. Yes's post Howe period, while still strong, is also definitely a down turn and a time of great confusion (at least Genesis stuck to the same three members, while Yes could barely keep a line up together. The fact that Yes made any good music at all in the 80's, 90's, and 2000's is a testament to their skill). The symphonic bands simply don't hold up as well as the eclectic bands over time.
King Crimson's success in adapting and remaining fresh and relevent and even groundbreaking is well documented and indeed quite incredible. VDGG has never compromised which is incredible. They've gotten a bit lighter since the beginning but you can hardly say they ever even once sold out. And Gentle Giant had such a bizarre and incredibly complex earlier career, that even their later pop efforts are worthwhile. I like Giant for a Day and Civilian way more than Interview, for example. It seems to me the eclectic bands just hold up better, so even though I do prefer Yes, Genesis, and ELP to Giant and VDGG, I have to go with the eclectic bands.
That said, I love all of these bands.
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Posted: September 18 2009 at 11:16 |
Not an easy choice for me either, but in the end I went for Eclectic, especially on account of the mighty King Crimson. I've never been a big fan of Genesis (growing up in Seventies Italy meant seeing them treated more or less like gods, and that got on my nerves after a while), but Yes and ELP are definitely among my favourite prog bands. On the whole, if we are talking about the two subgenres and not just those two sets of bands, Eclectic wins hands down. Like many people here, I got into prog by way of Symphonic, but I've progressively (pun intended  ) moved away from it.
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SonicDeath10
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Posted: September 18 2009 at 11:28 |
Raff wrote:
Not an easy choice for me either, but in the end I went for Eclectic, especially on account of the mighty King Crimson. I've never been a big fan of Genesis (growing up in Seventies Italy meant seeing them treated more or less like gods, and that got on my nerves after a while), but Yes and ELP are definitely among my favourite prog bands.
On the whole, if we are talking about the two subgenres and not just those two sets of bands, Eclectic wins hands down. Like many people here, I got into prog by way of Symphonic, but I've progressively (pun intended ) moved away from it. |
For me, symphonic prog has to be done right or it's irritating. Yes, Genesis, and ELP did it extremely well and could get away with the pomp. Eclectic prog has more of a free reign to screw around because hey it's weird: that's what they do. However, it can also lead to some major embarassments.
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Jozef
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Posted: September 18 2009 at 12:25 |
The eclectic trio.
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TheCaptain
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Posted: September 18 2009 at 13:06 |
These six bands are 6 of the 8 first bands with which I was introduced to prog (The Flower Kings and Jethro Tull being the other two). I instantly fell in love with Yes, ELP, Genesis and King Crimson while I was repulsed by VDGG and indifferent to Gentle Giant. After a few years I grew weary of the 3 symph bands while my love of KC increased and VDGG became one of my favorite bands. I never really gave Gentle Giant a chance and I swear I will get around to it sometime. Although without KC VDGG and GG I can only name two other bands classified as "eclectic:" Peter Hammill and The Tangent. I consider The Tangent to be more symphonic than eclectic and Peter Hammill is VDGG so my view of the sub-genre is incredibly narrow while I am far more familiar with Symphonic prog.
Anyway I vote for eclectic.
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Posted: September 18 2009 at 13:11 |
Holy crap, ninety votes and it's a dead heat.
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CPicard
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Posted: September 18 2009 at 13:22 |
To see, at the moment when I'm typing this, the perfect equality of the two options is priceless.
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: September 18 2009 at 13:33 |
I would rank the bands,
VdGG > KC > Genesis > GG > Yes > ELP
With a big drop off after GG. Eclectic by a good bit.
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Hercules
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Posted: September 18 2009 at 13:53 |
Yes, Genesis and Gentle Giant.
So symphonic by 2:1, but ELP are not bad too - far better than KC and VDGG.
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Alberto Muņoz
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Posted: September 18 2009 at 14:05 |
Both styles are favourites of mine, so:
NO VOTE  
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SonicDeath10
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Posted: September 18 2009 at 14:30 |
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
I would rank the bands,
VdGG > KC > Genesis > GG > Yes > ELP
With a big drop off after GG. Eclectic by a good bit. |
Not a bad arrangement. I'd say for me it's Genesis>or= to King Crimson>Yes> or = to VDGG>ELP>GG.
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Anderson III
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Posted: September 19 2009 at 00:06 |
Though I think both VDGG and ELP have their own things going on, and I respect that, neither are among my favorites. I love GG and Genesis, but I prefer the latter because I find them more consistent. Still both are incredible bands!
KC and Yes... Both are among the most important, artistic and brilliant bands of rock history, so you'd think it would be difficult to say which is better. Only if I didn't already know Yes is my favorite band! Symphonic gets my vote, but it's not like it steals this.
Yes > KC > Genesis > GG > VDGG and ELP
Edited by Anderson III - September 19 2009 at 00:17
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rogerthat
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Posted: September 19 2009 at 00:23 |
I love all six bands but Genesis is the only I like anywhere as much as I like KC and GG, so eclectic by a mile for me.
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