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Courtesy Flush
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Posted: September 12 2009 at 16:08 |
floydispink wrote:
Courtesy Flush wrote:
I am listening to disk one right now and I have to say I am greatly disappointed thus far. I hope disk two is better.
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Disc 2 isn't any better, but is more consistent. it does contain Bonnie The Cat though, which is a great track in the style of FOABP.
The preview for sure had the greatest moments from the album... and I think the full album is very inconsistent. It has some fantastic highlights such as The Blind House and The Incident, but also lot of weak, uninteresting and even boring moments. Overall I think it's a pretty good album... it's not their best, but it's definitely in the top 5 of them IMO. |
Disc 2 is a little bit better, but still way underwhelming. I'm really disappointed with this album.
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Courtesy Flush
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Posted: September 14 2009 at 01:33 |
Sigh.
I just keep wishing they would come out and say this is a joke and then present the real new album. Unfortunately, this is the real thing and I can't get into it.
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progkidjoel
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Joined: March 02 2009
Location: Australia
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Posted: September 14 2009 at 01:47 |
E-Dub wrote:
I'm picking mine up on Tuesday and looking forward to it. I haven't really kept up with the thread, but how is the sound/mood of The Incident? Have they broken new ground or anything?
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Well, (thankfully) its not really in the style of FOABP, and as most Porcupine Tree albums do, it feels different to most others they've released.
The mood is fairly dark the entire way through, but there's not really any new ground broken - Sure, its great, but its nothing incredibly special or unique like THE SKY MOVES SIDEWAYS, although its still very good and features some interesting textures and mood swings.
Hope you enjoy it Eric
-Joel
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progkidjoel
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Joined: March 02 2009
Location: Australia
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Posted: September 14 2009 at 01:49 |
Courtesy Flush wrote:
Sigh. I just keep wishing they would come out and say this is a joke and then present the real new album. Unfortunately, this is the real thing and I can't get into it.
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What don't you like about it, if you don't mind me asking?
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The Sleepwalker
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Joined: February 03 2009
Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: September 14 2009 at 02:43 |
progkidjoel wrote:
E-Dub wrote:
I'm picking mine up on Tuesday and looking forward to it. I haven't really kept up with the thread, but how is the sound/mood of The Incident? Have they broken new ground or anything?
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Well, (thankfully) its not really in the style of FOABP, and as most Porcupine Tree albums do, it feels different to most others they've released.
The mood is fairly dark the entire way through, but there's not really any new ground broken - Sure, its great, but its nothing incredibly special or unique like THE SKY MOVES SIDEWAYS, although its still very good and features some interesting textures and mood swings.
Hope you enjoy it Eric
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I think the album's sound has quite a lot similarities with FOABP. The mood is very dark, like FOABP, there are some parts where the synth is very present, like FOABP, and there even are some actual connections to FOABP; like the main riff from The Blind House, which is made out of the same chords as a riff from Anesthetize. I think songs like The Incident, Bonnie The Cat, The Blind House, Circle Of Manias and maybe even Time Flies (for the middle part) would fit in pretty good on FOABP.
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intensedaz
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Posted: September 14 2009 at 10:47 |
Just received the Incident via courier a couple of hours ago and finished my first spin.
Don't be too quick to judge folks , give it a few spins.
I think the expectation level has been so high for this album it was always going to be a bit of an anti-climax for some
Have too say I'm enjoying it
Edited by intensedaz - September 14 2009 at 12:27
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Find a job you love and never work another day in your life
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paulwalker71
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Joined: October 07 2005
Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: September 14 2009 at 12:20 |
Give it time people. I'm giving it a first listen right now, and liking what I'm hearing
But I won't really judge it for a few days
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magicmarty666
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Joined: August 26 2009
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Posted: September 14 2009 at 13:45 |
Well I am on the 3rd listen, and still struggeling to decide.
The 2nd disc is winning for me.
I am still going to see them in Leeds in October
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Lighting the best in the North East of England
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inrainbows
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Posted: September 14 2009 at 14:21 |
paulwalker71 wrote:
Give it time people. I'm giving it a first listen right now, and liking what I'm hearing
But I won't really judge it for a few days
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that's right
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hirszu
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Posted: September 14 2009 at 17:26 |
The funny thing is that only the new album is rated with 5 stars on PT page.
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=290
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stonebeard
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Joined: May 27 2005
Location: NE Indiana
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Posted: September 14 2009 at 18:27 |
hirszu wrote:
The funny thing is that only the new album is rated with 5 stars on PT page.
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=290
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It's been like that with practically all big releases by big prog bands. Bar none. Check back in a year for a somewhat valid overall rating.
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Kashmir75
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Posted: September 14 2009 at 19:16 |
I have heard it a few times now, and I think its great. I applaud Wilson for not just delivering a carbon copy of FOABP, but going in a completely different direction.
'The Blind House', 'Kneel And Disconnect', 'Drawing the Line', 'The Incident', 'Octane Twisted', and 'Bonnie The Cat' are my favourite songs so far.
I think there's a much darker ambience around this album. I suspect there might be an Opeth influence. In fact, ever since Steve Wilson worked with them, I think both bands have influenced each other a lot.
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Hello, mirror. So glad to see you, my friend. It's been a while...
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rushaholic
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Location: USA
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Posted: September 14 2009 at 19:45 |
Good album - like the new direction and change.
Edited by rushaholic - September 15 2009 at 06:16
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Plankowner
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Posted: September 15 2009 at 00:08 |
Kashmir75 wrote:
I have heard it a few times now, and I think its great. I applaud Wilson for not just delivering a carbon copy of FOABP, but going in a completely different direction.
'The Blind House', 'Kneel And Disconnect', 'Drawing the Line', 'The Incident', 'Octane Twisted', and 'Bonnie The Cat' are my favourite songs so far.
I think there's a much darker ambience around this album. I suspect there might be an Opeth influence. In fact, ever since Steve Wilson worked with them, I think both bands have influenced each other a lot. |
I'm with you Kashmir, there's a few spots I swear Wilson is copying Mike's clean vocal style..
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stonebeard
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Posted: September 15 2009 at 00:11 |
Plankowner wrote:
Kashmir75 wrote:
I have heard it a few times now, and I think its great. I applaud Wilson for not just delivering a carbon copy of FOABP, but going in a completely different direction.
'The Blind House', 'Kneel And Disconnect', 'Drawing the Line', 'The Incident', 'Octane Twisted', and 'Bonnie The Cat' are my favourite songs so far.
I think there's a much darker ambience around this album. I suspect there might be an Opeth influence. In fact, ever since Steve Wilson worked with them, I think both bands have influenced each other a lot. |
I'm with you Kashmir, there's a few spots I swear Wilson is copying Mike's clean vocal style.. |
What is this unique clean vocal style...?
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Plankowner
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Posted: September 15 2009 at 00:24 |
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Johnny_Tsunami
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Joined: June 11 2009
Location: Michigan
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Posted: September 15 2009 at 00:25 |
I'm really glad I kinda backed off PT for about a month and a half before the album came out. I'm gonna try and pick it up tomorrow, based on the iTunes 30 second samples (lol) it sounds pretty decent.
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I likes musics
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Jake Kobrin
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Joined: September 20 2008
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Posted: September 15 2009 at 00:43 |
I'm a tremendous PT fanboy and yet this is probably the largest disappointment of the past few years for me. It's a very weak and underwhelming album. I've listened to it 6 times I believe and each time I do so, I actually like it less. My opinions:
Disc 1:
I quite like: The Seance (That acoustic riff at the end is the coolest riff on the whole album) Octane Twisted Kneel and Disconnect Time Flies The Yellow Windows of the Evening Train (reminds me of Sigur Ros)
I like: I Drive the Hearse Circle of Manias(Cool mathy track.) Occam's Razor/The Blind House (Pretty cool beginning, has more energy than anything else on the album)
I don't like: The Incident
I really dislike: Drawing
the Line - teh fakk is dis sh*tt/?? By far
the worst thing Steven Wilson has ever participated in. Great Expectations
Neutral/Undecided: Your Unpleasent Familly Degree Zero of Liberty
And from Disc 2:
I quite like: Flicker Bonnie the Cat (Very unique track. Awesome bass playing & drumming.)
I don't like: Remember me Lover
Neutral: Black Dahlia
What's with the swearing in the lyrics? It makes the already bad lyrics even worse... Immature, IMO.
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hope Porcupine Tree does make another album eventually, for the sole
reason that this one is simply not good enough to act as the signature
on their discography... More importantly, I hope that the next one is
better than this one.
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Dalezilla
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Posted: September 15 2009 at 01:38 |
I found the first disc to be incredibly inconsistent. It had good moments, but some laughably bad ones as well. Second disc is overall a bit better, but still not that great.
To be honest, I don't like their new "proggier" direction. Prefer the good old Deadwing days.
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progkidjoel
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Joined: March 02 2009
Location: Australia
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Posted: September 15 2009 at 01:40 |
Dalezilla wrote:
I found the first disc to be incredibly inconsistent. It had good moments, but some laughably bad ones as well. Second disc is overall a bit better, but still not that great.To be honest, I don't like their new "proggier" direction. Prefer the good old Deadwing days.
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I prefer the good old UP THE DOWNSTAIR days
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