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Poll Question: Do you buy remastered CD's?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 13 2009 at 15:15
^ that has been done for some albums ... right now I can only think of Ayreon - Actual Fantasy.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 13 2009 at 15:36
I thought I heard they did it to Pearl Jam's Ten album, and they did it to the Beatles Let It Be (naked) where they removed Spector's 'Wall Of Sound' so that the actual music could be heard. A far better work now that it was done. On the last BSS CD I bought, there was an instrument version of KE9, but only the 1st and 2nd Impressions. That requires a remix of sorts, although they may they have just called up the previous automation and then dropped or muted the vocal faders. In that case it's not really a remix, more of an edit I would think.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 13 2009 at 15:51
Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

The term "Remastered" seems to have different means to some. Mastring is the process of preparing a recording, that has already been recorded, mixed,and edited, for final production. It can include but is not limited to the addition of compression and EQ'ing as well as a few other technologies to the each song as a whole. And while Remastering can help a recording's sound, I'd like to see some "Remixes" get done. And by Remix I mean back to the original multi track tapes, re-EQ the tracks, use current reverb technology, compress the drums for a little more balls in the recordings that sort of thing. Cost prohibitive I'm sure, but that would be really great to hear and I think it could breathe new life into many older recordings.
I dont' know what technology was use on the Beatles remastered tapes, but it looks like the best results was on the improvement of the sound clarity of the drums and bass wich is a lot better now in this new edition. (base on reviews) Did they go back to the original tapes to do that or did they simply increase the volume? Or is it the same thing? I am not a expert. I will judge the results by me ears...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 13 2009 at 20:00
I become interested in remastering only if the original recording had a bad mix or was not cleaned up. There are recordings that sounded horrible on LP and horrible on the first cd issue. These are worthwhile to hear if remastered. It' sometimes depends on who originally produced the tape. For example: Most of what Ken Scott produced in the 70's and 80's sounded remarkable on LP. So on cd you could expect a great sound, instead of a 70's prog record that sounded like it was recorded in a cardboard box.
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Remastering seems overated to me in the case of certain titles. Titles that are re-released on digi-pk or gatefold and are remastered such as the first ELP. I still hear the distortion in the bass guitar on several tracks. The same goes for Yes...Close To the Edge, and The Yes Album. However an album like Supertramp's Crisis What Crisis does not need many finishing touches. 10CC'S albums were produced great and the clarity was phenomenal. When I play Billy Cobham's Total Eclipse I have to turn the bass booster on. With the remastering of Jethro Tull's Minstrel In the Gallery, I find myself turning down the bass down for the title track, Cold Wind To Valhalla, and Black Satin Dancer. But I use to do the same thing in the 70's when I played the LP on a technics turntable with JBL Speakers.
Gentle Giant's Octopus always sounded like what I would consider perfect production. With  KC-Larks Tongues In Aspic, I've always hated the sound of that album. The playing is great, the material is great but the production has too much bottom end and the highs distort because of it. And it's depressing because they are one of my favorite bands. The bass is cut back on Starless and Bible Black, if you ever may notice.
Some recordings have been toyed with and I don't appreciate that. Inner Mounting Flame by Mahavishnu Orchestra has a sound overall that reminds me of a band playing in my living room. If someone were to destroy that sound concept by bouncing a reverb effect in and out, it would pretty much ruin things for me. Birds Of Fire featured a reverb sound throughout but it complimented the music. When Fripp remastered Larks for the 30th anniversary, the signature notes that Muir played in the intro for Larks part 1, fade out and other various percussion overshadows that melody line. I keep looking for the original on the EG label just so I can hear it again. You can't trust re-mixing a hundred percent.
I'm happy with remastering half the time, so about 50% I am discouraged with. It's always a hard call to make.
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