Remastered CD
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Topic: Remastered CD
Posted By: rdtprog
Subject: Remastered CD
Date Posted: September 09 2009 at 19:08
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With the Beatles remastered collection coming out. I was curious to know how many of you care about the production of cd's. For me I still like my old cd's from the 70's even if it was not perfect. And I prefer keep my money to buy new versions of my songs on DVD than have to built my collection of favorites again by purchasing the remastered version. But in the case of the Beatles, I don't have a single albums of them, so maybe it's time to buy the new versions. What about you?
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Posted By: CryoftheCarrots
Date Posted: September 09 2009 at 19:33
Really looking forward to the remastered/5.1 mixed King Crimson albums. ------------- "There is a lot in this world to be tense and intense about" MJK |
Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: September 09 2009 at 19:37
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I do usually, especially in prog and jazz music.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: September 09 2009 at 20:05
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you had CDs in the 70s? wow, talk about ahead of the curve I think it'll be quite interesting to hear any Fab 4 remasters if only to experience the music in a new way or to hear things previously buried.. the issue is not that they'll be better than the original versions, just different..I do hope George Martin was involved in some way, according to Rolling Stone it was done by Abbey Road engineers over four years with "new technology and vintage equipment to preserve authenticity and integrity" ..they'll have original UK tracklists & art, expanded notes (painfully missed from the current CD issues) and some will be embedded with brief documentaries, and a mono boxset as well. |
Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: September 09 2009 at 20:25
| I've only upgraded from an old CD or LP to a remastered edition a scant few times. The last one was with "This is The Sea" by The Waterboys. Improved sound and a bonus disc sealed the deal (that and I got via a nice trade). Normally, however, I prefer to get what I can for the best possible price. |
Posted By: rdtprog
Date Posted: September 10 2009 at 06:16
Wow! Didn't know that one! Maybe the future of music. Make all album and cd on 5.1! ------------- Music is the refuge of souls ulcerated by happiness. Emile M. Cioran |
CryoftheCarrots wrote:Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: September 10 2009 at 06:29
I usually buy remastered CD's if I don't own them - But I don't think I'll buy remasters of CD's I already have. Porcupine Tree have released most of their albums in 5.1 already! ------------- 
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: September 10 2009 at 07:16
| If I'm not happy with the edition I have (that is, if I assume the remaster will sound remarkably better), and if I happen to find the remaster for a good price, I will probably buy it. Obviously it also depends on how much I like the album and whether the remaster comes in a cool package or with interesting bonus tracks. |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: September 10 2009 at 07:24
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I am not such an audiophile that I would buy remastered CD's from albums that I have already. Moreover, most bonus tracks are not uplifting and (1) out of context with the original album or (2) overall redundant.
And concerning the sound quality, I'm easily content as long as it does not sound as vinyl played with a rusty 9 inch-nail as a stylus.  ------------- 
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Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: September 10 2009 at 13:32
each remastered CD is another step closer to the original..
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: September 10 2009 at 22:52
These are the two things that I watch for. I assume the remaster will sound better. Perhaps not amazingly better, but better nonetheless. Bonus tracks are much more important to me, esp with artists I love. Excellent example is VDGG's H To He..., and Pawn Hearts. Sound quality is strickingly better (esp on PH) and the bonus tracks are delicious. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: paulwalker71
Date Posted: September 11 2009 at 04:14
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With so much new music around, plus music that I'm discovering all the time, there simply aren't the resources to be buying remastered CD's of stuff I already have. Naturally, I'll buy the latest remaster of something I don't have, so I voted for that option |
Posted By: rosenbach
Date Posted: September 11 2009 at 09:20
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yes, i have bought remastered cd's that already had and then try to sell or trade the old version among my friends; sometimes only looking for a better sound quality but some other because of the bonus tracks or a nice mini -lp sleeve edition of an album I really enjoy.
Just this week arrived the Genesis 1970-1975 boxset on SACD and i already have all those albums (except The Lamb) on the japanesse minilp sleeve version. |
Posted By: Badabing666
Date Posted: September 11 2009 at 09:32
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: September 11 2009 at 10:58
| I'm willing to buy remasters of favourite CDs. Recent ones such as Paranoid and Trick of the Tail have been worth the money. |
Posted By: rdtprog
Date Posted: September 11 2009 at 12:52
Yes A Trick of the Tail has a rare performance of Genesis with Bill Bruford in 1976.  ------------- Music is the refuge of souls ulcerated by happiness. Emile M. Cioran |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: September 11 2009 at 13:00
I already had the definitive edition of that and I replaced it with the version with the DVD just to get the DVD. ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Posted By: The Sleepwalker
Date Posted: September 12 2009 at 15:35
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I'm buying CD's for about two years or more, so most of them are pretty recent remasters. I've never actually been comparing a remaster and to an older CD, so I don't really know the differences... but I assume the remasters are more polished and a more pleasant listen most times (though I have read some reviews where people weren't happy with the quality of the remastered album). I like the bonus tracks on some of my remasters, like on PH's In Camera and JT's Stormwatch, and the bonus track might actually be a reason for me to upgrade an older album to a remaster. The only remaster I'm really aiming for is ITCOTCK, which I don't have yet... In October this year (I believe) the remaster is coming with new material, in the form of a double CD or even a 4CD/DVDA box set! I'm kind of looking forward to hear what the bonus material is. ------------- 
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Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: September 12 2009 at 16:52
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Sometimes. I also sometimes purchase remastered MP3s, examples: Nevermore - Enemies of Realities (remastered & remixed) Meshuggah - Nothing (remastered & remixed) ------------- https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike" rel="nofollow - https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike |
Posted By: JD
Date Posted: September 13 2009 at 15:08
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The term "Remastered" seems to have different means to some. Mastring is the process of preparing a recording, that has already been recorded, mixed,and edited, for final production. It can include but is not limited to the addition of compression and EQ'ing as well as a few other technologies to the each song as a whole. And while Remastering can help a recording's sound, I'd like to see some "Remixes" get done. And by Remix I mean back to the original multi track tapes, re-EQ the tracks, use current reverb technology, compress the drums for a little more balls in the recordings that sort of thing. Cost prohibitive I'm sure, but that would be really great to hear and I think it could breathe new life into many older recordings. ------------- Thank you for supporting independently produced music |
Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: September 13 2009 at 15:15
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^ that has been done for some albums ... right now I can only think of Ayreon - Actual Fantasy.
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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: September 13 2009 at 15:36
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I thought I heard they did it to Pearl Jam's Ten album, and they did it to the Beatles Let It Be (naked) where they removed Spector's 'Wall Of Sound' so that the actual music could be heard. A far better work now that it was done. On the last BSS CD I bought, there was an instrument version of KE9, but only the 1st and 2nd Impressions. That requires a remix of sorts, although they may they have just called up the previous automation and then dropped or muted the vocal faders. In that case it's not really a remix, more of an edit I would think. ------------- Thank you for supporting independently produced music |
Posted By: rdtprog
Date Posted: September 13 2009 at 15:51
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Posted By: TODDLER
Date Posted: September 13 2009 at 20:00
| I become interested in remastering only if the original recording had a bad mix or was not cleaned up. There are recordings that sounded horrible on LP and horrible on the first cd issue. These are worthwhile to hear if remastered. It' sometimes depends on who originally produced the tape. For example: Most of what Ken Scott produced in the 70's and 80's sounded remarkable on LP. So on cd you could expect a great sound, instead of a 70's prog record that sounded like it was recorded in a cardboard box. | Remastering seems overated to me in the case of certain titles. Titles that are re-released on digi-pk or gatefold and are remastered such as the first ELP. I still hear the distortion in the bass guitar on several tracks. The same goes for Yes...Close To the Edge, and The Yes Album. However an album like Supertramp's Crisis What Crisis does not need many finishing touches. 10CC'S albums were produced great and the clarity was phenomenal. When I play Billy Cobham's Total Eclipse I have to turn the bass booster on. With the remastering of Jethro Tull's Minstrel In the Gallery, I find myself turning down the bass down for the title track, Cold Wind To Valhalla, and Black Satin Dancer. But I use to do the same thing in the 70's when I played the LP on a technics turntable with JBL Speakers. Gentle Giant's Octopus always sounded like what I would consider perfect production. With KC-Larks Tongues In Aspic, I've always hated the sound of that album. The playing is great, the material is great but the production has too much bottom end and the highs distort because of it. And it's depressing because they are one of my favorite bands. The bass is cut back on Starless and Bible Black, if you ever may notice. Some recordings have been toyed with and I don't appreciate that. Inner Mounting Flame by Mahavishnu Orchestra has a sound overall that reminds me of a band playing in my living room. If someone were to destroy that sound concept by bouncing a reverb effect in and out, it would pretty much ruin things for me. Birds Of Fire featured a reverb sound throughout but it complimented the music. When Fripp remastered Larks for the 30th anniversary, the signature notes that Muir played in the intro for Larks part 1, fade out and other various percussion overshadows that melody line. I keep looking for the original on the EG label just so I can hear it again. You can't trust re-mixing a hundred percent. I'm happy with remastering half the time, so about 50% I am discouraged with. It's always a hard call to make. |