![]() |
|
Post Reply ![]() |
Page 12> |
Author | |
Mr ProgFreak ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 08 2008 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 5195 |
![]() Posted: September 13 2009 at 10:52 |
So guys (and gals) ... what do you think? There may be already similar polls, but I'm particularly interested in how such a poll will turn out in 2009 ... download stores are gaining popularity, and it seems to me like MP3 is slowly, but steadily becoming the successor of the physical formats.
BTW: Let's not include consideration of artworks, booklets or other aspects here ... I think there's another poll that I started a few months ago which specifically asks whether you would purchase MP3s instead of CDs. Let's make this poll just about the actual music. ![]() BTW: My vote goes to: "There's no audible difference even on high-end systems". To back that up and in case some of you don't already know the study: http://www.geocities.com/altbinariessoundsmusicclassical/mp3test.html Even nine years ago they could not hear a difference. |
|
![]() |
|
Snow Dog ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995 |
![]() |
I went for option 1
|
|
![]() |
|
Mr ProgFreak ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 08 2008 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 5195 |
![]() |
^ wow, that was fast ...
![]() ![]() |
|
![]() |
|
Snow Dog ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995 |
![]() |
^^ Was it?
![]() |
|
![]() |
|
Vompatti ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: October 22 2005 Location: elsewhere Status: Offline Points: 67445 |
![]() |
I don't think I could hear the difference.
|
|
![]() |
|
A Person ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 10 2008 Location: __ Status: Offline Points: 65760 |
![]() |
I can't hear the difference either, but I don't have a high end system.
![]() |
|
![]() |
|
Pekka ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 03 2006 Location: Espoo, Finland Status: Offline Points: 6456 |
![]() |
In my experience if the cd is compressed to very loud levels, the clipping increases when ripped to even the best quality mp3. If the cd is mastered to reasonable volume levels with no clipping to begin with, then there's no big difference. Perhaps none at all, I haven't really listened to two versions side by side.
|
|
![]() |
|
The Sleepwalker ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 03 2009 Location: The Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 15141 |
![]() |
I can't hear any difference, so I voted option one.
|
|
![]() |
|
![]() |
|
Mr ProgFreak ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 08 2008 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 5195 |
![]() |
I think it would be cool if those who vote here could also describe which types of systems they normally use for listening to music. As far as I'm concerned, most of the time I'll use Logitech X-530 speakers connected to the standard sound card of the computer and my Creative X-Fi mobile player with Sennheiser CX-300 in-ear headphones. But I also have a hi-fi system (Harman Kardon + Elac Speakers) and a professional audio-interface for the computer which I use to make music, connected to the hi-fi system and AKG K-512 headphones. :-)
|
|
![]() |
|
Petrovsk Mizinski ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: December 24 2007 Location: Ukraine Status: Offline Points: 25210 |
![]() |
192Kbps and beyond, even on my active studio monitors, not a single discernable difference, so I voted for number 1. I don't have a high end system as such, but listening through monitors is quite revealing.
Honestly I don't think even 96kbps sound bad, although it's clearly not the same as CD quality. Although I don't need to rip at 96Kbps anymore though |
|
![]() |
|
![]() |
|
progkidjoel ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: March 02 2009 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 19643 |
![]() |
Option number 3 - I'll give some examples...
Yesterday morning, I was playing my dad a burnt CD of Maudlin Of The Well - Part The Second through our Klipsch stereo. (Note: these were the 263KBP MP3's, not the WAV's) You could immediately hear the thin dynamics and hollow noise... It didn't sound like a CD, but rather a slightly muffled radio replay of the tracks. My dad told me to download the CD quality WAV format the band had hosted on their website, and after re-burning these, you could immediately hear the difference... It wasn't really debatable. |
|
![]() |
|
![]() |
|
Mr ProgFreak ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 08 2008 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 5195 |
![]() |
^ "a slightly muffled radio replay" ... I think it's more likely that something went wrong during burning. Can you try connecting the computer to the Klipsch?
|
|
![]() |
|
progkidjoel ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: March 02 2009 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 19643 |
![]() |
Possibly, not sure what input to use though... Its currently running through the PS3 with an Optic cable, so I'm not sure how to re-connect it. |
|
![]() |
|
![]() |
|
Mr ProgFreak ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 08 2008 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 5195 |
![]() |
^ Doesn't it have line inputs, too? That would be the way to go ...
EDIT: Another thing: How did you burn the MP3s? Edited by Mr ProgFreak - September 14 2009 at 07:27 |
|
![]() |
|
progkidjoel ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: March 02 2009 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 19643 |
![]() |
Probably... I'll give it a proper look tomorrow, but I'm far too tired right now ![]() |
|
![]() |
|
![]() |
|
Mr ProgFreak ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 08 2008 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 5195 |
![]() |
^ of course another quick check would be to connect quality headphones to the computer and listen to the mp3s there. If they don't sound muffled, then probably something went wrong during burning.
|
|
![]() |
|
progkidjoel ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: March 02 2009 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 19643 |
![]() |
^^I'll try that right now, and post back after listening to a track actually
![]() |
|
![]() |
|
![]() |
|
aapatsos ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: November 11 2005 Location: Manchester, UK Status: Offline Points: 9226 |
![]() |
I have not tested that on a 'monster' machine so I can't vote... generally I would go for CDs over good quality mp3s
|
|
![]() |
|
Mr ProgFreak ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 08 2008 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 5195 |
![]() |
Do you think that the test would turn out that differently on a "monster" machine compared to the equipment that you normally use?
|
|
![]() |
|
Alberto Muņoz ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 26 2006 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 3577 |
![]() |
I vote for FLAC
|
|
![]() |
|
![]() |
Post Reply ![]() |
Page 12> |
Forum Jump | Forum Permissions ![]() You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot create polls in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum |