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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 27 2009 at 07:45
@TheProgtologist: i haven't heard any of that bands..you realy dig them this time Smile. i should check them soon.
@Ian: I listened Skagos- Ast , good album, some depresive atomospheric balck metal, slow ..lo fi .. nice tunes..i found many bands from that genre of black metal: Trancelike Void, Sombres Forets, Panopticon, Fall of Rauros, Nocturnal Depression, Xasthur, Fauna, Ghremdrakk .. good bands..
and VAKA are awesome ..thanks for recomendation guys .. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 27 2009 at 10:24
OK, so I like instrumental math-rock and post-rock as much as the next guy, but I think I'm getting to the point where instrumentals just don't cut it for me anymore.  It's been done, you know?
Leave the sprawling cinematic soundscapes to those who have done it better before you, and how about concentrating on writing an actual song?
 
This comes to mind because I'm listening to the Piglet record right now, which is brilliant... the dudes have amazing songwriting style, but I would like it so much more if they would just inject a vocal melody somewhere!  It seems weird that this scene has come to a point where bands with actual vocals stand out from the rest.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 27 2009 at 10:39
^^i for instance like post rock as it is ..no vocals most of it.. it stands out from the vastness of enormous ocean filled with vocals Smile .. if i want to hear vocals just switch to stg else .. i am never bored of endless intrumentalisation .. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 27 2009 at 10:48
Originally posted by GoldenSpiral GoldenSpiral wrote:

OK, so I like instrumental math-rock and post-rock as much as the next guy, but I think I'm getting to the point where instrumentals just don't cut it for me anymore.  It's been done, you know?
Leave the sprawling cinematic soundscapes to those who have done it better before you, and how about concentrating on writing an actual song?
 
This comes to mind because I'm listening to the Piglet record right now, which is brilliant... the dudes have amazing songwriting style, but I would like it so much more if they would just inject a vocal melody somewhere!  It seems weird that this scene has come to a point where bands with actual vocals stand out from the rest.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 27 2009 at 14:19

I've never thought of it like that. How I see it is is if you make instrumental music, I wont crave any vocals cause I wont expect any, and if you're a band using vocals, you better do a good job with those pipes.

I understand where you're coming from, but I guess I havent gotten to that point, and only time will tell if I do.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 27 2009 at 15:43

Post-Rock rarely works vocally. Post-Metal seems to just dirge without vocals. Math Rock can never have vocals in a traditional song sense. That's how I see it.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 27 2009 at 17:16
I suppose i'm weird, but i don't really like singing. I mean, it's nice for fun, although i prefer no vocals in music that i take seriously. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 27 2009 at 17:33
I guess where I'm coming from with my sentiment here is that I've really been into the early math-rock/post-rock bands recently.  And by that I mean the early 90's stuff like Slint, Shellac, Polvo, and June of 44... all of which displayed the same elements that many of the modern bands do (though perhaps to a lesser technical degree), and they all had vocals.  Sometimes full on hooks and melodies and other times very sparse... either way, it can work.

I just think I'd like to see some modern bands that return to the roots of math-rock instead of finger tapping and hammering-on all the damn time Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 27 2009 at 19:25
I havent heard any good math rock lately... I need to get on that and DL some of your recs chris, I liked all the links you've provided.
 
Fen is some pretty good black metal, I'm on my third round of Malediction fields right now, I just wish the production quality was a tad better. I feel that the drums and especially the cymbals really drown out a lot of that delicious atmosphere. Maybe it's a tongue in cheek thing.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 27 2009 at 19:34
I can't recommend Fall of Efrafa highly enough.
 
Their trilogy of albums(Owsla,Elil,Inle) based on the novel Watership Down are brilliant.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 28 2009 at 06:05
hehe, nice to read this, Jody my personal fave is ELIL, but they're all almost brilliant. What about ELECTRIC WIZARD, are you digging it?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 28 2009 at 08:07
Yes, I need to check out this Fall of Efrafa.  I missed their show here a few months ago but those who went said it was awesome.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 28 2009 at 12:39
Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:

hehe, nice to read this, Jody my personal fave is ELIL, but they're all almost brilliant. What about ELECTRIC WIZARD, are you digging it?
 
They are all good,but if I have to pick a favorite I would pick Elil also.
 
I REALLY like Electric Wizard.Dopethrone and Witchcult Today have been getting played a lot this week.
 
I am still looking for Sleep's Jerusalem album,I really want to check that out.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 28 2009 at 14:00
Just added PR band Sunlight Ascending to the database.Don't know if I talked about them here but this band is excellent,and their members are only between the ages of 14-21.
 
Saw them in Baltimore 4 days ago and they were magnificent live.
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 28 2009 at 14:53
Vaka is EXCELLENT! On my first listen now! Dirty, yet really spacey, and energetic, kind of reminds me of some of NIN stuff off the Fragile. I love the keys, and the use of dynamics too, I bet they're an excellent live show!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 28 2009 at 14:55
I knew you'd like them Ian.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2009 at 16:23
didn't like VAKA. I'm heavily into Psych stuff lately, so I applause for these inclusions: http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=4257 and http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=4789 , well done!

I'd love to have both ELECTRIC WIZARD and SLEEP in Psych/Space Rock, yes, you got me right, in ROCK, not Post-METAL, 'coz these guys are not METAL, they're ROCK. They don't play straight-forward well-structured songs, their material is always bluesy, groovy and slow. The fact that they're HEAVY, sometimes EXTREMELY HEAVVVVVVVVVY, doesn't make them METAL though
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2009 at 16:40
I would like to submit the band "Glazed Baby" for your consideration in listening.... very cool noisy avant math rock band.  Very dark and neurotic though.  May not be for everyone, but they certainly helped to influence the genre greatly....
 
http://www.myspace.com/glazedbaby   (hopefully that link works, cannot post it at work...)
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2009 at 16:52
Couldn't get the link to work but I found their Myspace page.I was impressed,pretty good stuff.
 
I added them to the PMT chart.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2009 at 18:15
Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Couldn't get the link to work but I found their Myspace page.I was impressed,pretty good stuff.
 
I added them to the PMT chart.
 
Cool!  yeah, I have been a fan for about 15 years or so.  great band, sort of ahead of their time, if you look at when they were around.... even though they borrowed from obvious sources like Swans, Godflesh, Einsturzende Neubauten... etc.
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