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darkshade
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Posted: August 28 2009 at 18:24 | |
thank you |
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Abstrakt
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Posted: August 28 2009 at 16:35 | |
You sound really talented!
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darkshade
Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: November 19 2005 Location: New Jersey Status: Offline Points: 10964 |
Posted: August 28 2009 at 16:30 | |
im currently working on what i thought was going to be a 3 part suite, but is now going to be either 4 or 5 parts (working on part 4). It's still unnamed. I used riffs, melodies, and other ideas and interchange them within each song. Kind of inspired by Dream Theater's 12 Step suite, and Frank Zappa's conceptual continuity.
for example there is one riff played once in part 1, and i expanded on it in part 3, which made the bulk of the song. Part 2 plays the main theme from part 1 to connect the theme from part 2 to this jazz-fusion-like section. there is also a sad sounding 2 chord sequence for solos that runs though the suite, part 1 contains a fast 6/8 version of it with trombone soloing. Part 2 features the same 2 chords, but in 4 and a little funkier (at least in the groove) with a hammond organ solo. i currently working in another version of the sequence with extra harmonies for part 4, but i dont know which instrument is going to take the solo. part 1 is very dark, and extremely jazzy. there's a bunch of King Crimson influence, but thats only because i enjoy working with tri-tones. A little Planet X sounding in certain parts. lots of electric and rhodes piano. part 1 is about 3 and 1/2 minutes Part 2 is (so far) the most prog rock of the suite, it goes through different themes, and a couple of melodies (one being the main theme) and is played over the original chords to accompany it. however, as i was writing part 2, the sad sounding chords sounded awesome under the main theme. so you hear both at some point in the song. it goes into the jazzy part, with the sax ripping it down over an interesting melody. it goes to a happy, triumphant section, which you hear throughout the song, but here it is expanded on and played in full, sounding more upbeat. the end sounds like it would be the end of the suite, but the final chord is a very dissonant chord giving you the feeling that it's not over. part 2 is a little more than 8 minutes. part 3 is mostly an expansion of one riff from part 1, and so far is the shortest one, with lots of odd meters, poly rythyms and such. there is another hammond solo over a walking bassline with the guitar playing the chord sequence under the theme from part 1. there is one riff from part 2 that is brought back, and played in cut time. this one's really technical, and really hard to play. part 3 is not even 2 minutes long. part 4 is so far the most jazz fusion of the suite, but not finished. so far, there are no guitar solos in the suite. there probably wont be either. (im a guitarist) as one whole suite this will be my 39th completed composition. they easily can stand by themselves as individual songs as well, so if you count it like that, and if the suite becomes 5 parts, they will be my 39th, 40th, 41st, 42nd, and 43rd completed song. i kind of prefer to cound all of them as my 39th because, unlike the 12 step suite, im writing them all in one shot, plus i want my 40th work to be spectacular, though i dont think about the numbers too much anyway. i would like to show it to you guys when im finished, but i dont know how to do that. they're MIDI files, and i have a weird sound recorder on my computer. Edited by darkshade - August 28 2009 at 16:43 |
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Abstrakt
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 18 2005 Location: Soundgarden Status: Offline Points: 18292 |
Posted: August 28 2009 at 16:08 | |
Not music, but a poem i wrote based on the meter of "Black Hole Sun" by Soundgarden:
Vad jag ser I profil Är en rastlös krokodil Som är trött Som aldrig förr Allt i vattnet är ju dött Vad jag vet Irrelevant Som en ensam elefant Inte ler Länge till Det är bara han som ser Vad jag hör Det förstör Vad jag är och vad jag bör Hörs ett tjut Hörs ett rop Inte kan det vara slut I en grop I en hög Allt som dammsugaren sög Sopar in Under mattan Och nu har den blivit min Upp på land I min hand Syns en mäktig blodröd rand Ända hit Varför då Jag har ingen dynamit TRANSLATION (sort of): What i see in profile is a restless crocodile who is tired like never before, everything in the water is dead now. What i know. Irrelevant(?) like a lonely elephant who rarely smiles anymore. He's the only one who sees. What i hear, it destroys. What i am and what i better do. A ??? is heard, a shout is heard. This can't be the end? In a hole, in a pile, everything the vaccum cleaner cleaned up. Sweep it in under the carpet and now it's all mine. Up on land, in my hand, a mighty blood-red stripe is showing. All the way here, why? I don't have any dynamite. I'm not sure it made much sense to start with, and it makes even less sense when translated. Feel free to Intepret it any way you want! I hope you enjoyed it |
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Abstrakt
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Posted: August 28 2009 at 15:55 | |
Seems to go well together with "Frågetecken"!
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Hyardacil
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Posted: August 28 2009 at 14:06 | |
So.
I'll add to your thread Abstrakt. As I've enjoyed our exchanges so far. Here are some lyrics I have worked on. * * * The title - "An Excerpt from a Conversation Between Two People" I am sitting in your eyes now and I don't know where I am anymore... I see your little stars glow on the sky of some far away land and I reach for them... Perhaps forty thousand years now waiting on a sea of sand... Or perhaps drowning within some hollow dreamlike substance that I have now found in your silent worlds. In your silent words. I am glowing in your sky now. For I burn to be known and touched. Perhaps as some kind of frail and pretentious hint of a frown or a smile in the wind. A smile in the wind. I am sitting on a cloud now I don't know which way is up or down please tell me do I still have to sit here - or perhaps I can at last come down A laugh at my silent worlds. And laugh my silent words. * * * Pretty abstract lyrics in their own right. I tried to capture a state of thought I was in at one moment. Edited by Hyardacil - August 28 2009 at 14:14 |
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"I am sitting in your eyes..."
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Abstrakt
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Posted: August 18 2009 at 12:15 | |
I have a few bass lines/riffs in A minor that might end up being some song. But i don't feel like working on that now
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refugee
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Posted: August 16 2009 at 08:00 | |
Sorry, some strange things happened with the size and the colours …
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He say nothing is quite what it seems;
I say nothing is nothing (Peter Hammill) |
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refugee
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Posted: August 16 2009 at 07:59 | |
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Abstrakt, my Mac wouldn’t play your music. Anyway, you can listen to some of my music here: http://www.musicwebtown.com/jellyfishinice/275259 I’ve written a little bit about the songs in the Get the word
out-section (Recording Ashflame). Any comment would be welcome, and feel free
to ask questions. |
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He say nothing is quite what it seems;
I say nothing is nothing (Peter Hammill) |
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Abstrakt
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Posted: August 14 2009 at 08:22 | |
Or you could play it in it's "full" form, which is E, G, B, D, F#. F# being an octave above the starting E
Or make it sound even cooler by holding down E and B in the left hand, and G, D and F# in the right hand. |
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Hyardacil
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Posted: August 13 2009 at 07:03 | |
Em9 would consist of the notes E, F#, G, B and D. So basically the Em7+add9 is written out as simply Em9.
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Abstrakt
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Posted: August 12 2009 at 15:21 | |
That's what i thought. Emadd9 is how i would write it, though. And yeah, it sounds lovely! So does Bm/E, which equals a Em9, right? |
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Hyardacil
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Posted: August 12 2009 at 09:09 | |
Yes, what HolyMoly described is I think a suspended or sus chord.
Add2 is that you simply take the chord and count up to the second step and then you ADD it. (add - get it? :P) Emadd2 for example is the E minor chord with the note F# added there. F# being the second step from the root of the chord - E. (I am in the key of E minor, so F is an F#) So yes... it can also be written as an add9. E, F#, G, B. add2 and add9 are the same thing technically. Though Em9 would be another thing entirely. My music teacher said to me that add2 is the correct form of writing the chord down... I wouldn't know though, I've come across add9 constantly too. Btw, you said earlier that you don't know how to put GP5 files to MP3's. Well if you look, then you'll find that GP "file" has an export file option. You can export your GP5 music as a WAVE file. Then all you need to do is a find a program to remake Wave files to MP3's. And there are free to DL programs available for that. I suggest just typing "WAVE to MP3" to google and I think you'll find one. Only thing is that, while playing the GP while recording it to WAVE you have to adjust your sound from the control bar so that it wouldn't record anything but what you hear from the speakers. Edited by Hyardacil - August 12 2009 at 09:19 |
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Abstrakt
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Posted: August 12 2009 at 08:03 | |
Isn't that a Sus2? Suspended second? For example Csus2 = C, D, G Or do you mean like C, D, E, which is Cadd9? |
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HolyMoly
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Posted: August 12 2009 at 07:00 | |
That's just when you take the third in a triad down to a second. It's a neat sound, Zappa used it constantly.
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Abstrakt
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Posted: August 12 2009 at 05:26 | |
What the hell is an add2 chord by the way?
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Abstrakt
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Posted: August 12 2009 at 05:26 | |
I just sat by the keyboard and wanted to come up with something. That i just picked the key of C# minor, because i think it sounds cool.
Then i just noodled around until i came up with a decent riff or a decent chord sequence. VOILA! |
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Hyardacil
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Posted: August 12 2009 at 04:40 | |
Abstract, you have inspired me though.
I liked your "Egg"'ish sound on the first piece and set out for my own harmonies also. So I've come up with a thingy alternating between 7/8 and 4/4 in every one bar and with a chord progression of Emadd2, A11, Emadd2, A11, F#m7, F7sus2, Emadd2, A11. Sounds wicked. And I'm definitely gonna have vocals on that. I didn't compose it in a very progressive way though. I just took up the guitar - I don't know how to play a single thing on it (Except for Em and E major chords!) and took some random harmonies, til' something sounded good. Then remade it to those progressions. :P |
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PROGMONSTER2008
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 09 2007 Status: Offline Points: 610 |
Posted: August 09 2009 at 19:24 | |
I haven't heard your tunes but If you go by the original method of prog, then your music is prog. Don't worry about the actual word 'progressive' it's just a name given by critics . I don't follow the modern formula of prog(which I think is wrong) where bands TRY to invent new styles of METAL. Real prog isn't guitar based music, it's rock music played by musicians who don't get enough from standard rock. The type of musicians who want things to be busy and interesting. Therefore, you jazz it up with jazz drumming, flutes, sax etc and you give the bass player more of a say in the songs while the guitarist plays as part of the band(rather than metal where the guitarist takes over completely), while bringing in some classical key playing and melodies. There you have it. PROG. You won't find me listening to Porcupine tree etc. BORING. Where's the jazzy playing and the classical melody. Nowhere to be heard . I only enjoy original style prog old and new(rare, but some around), but as long as they follow the original formula then they will be interesting. Otherwise, I find it boring just like most rock music apart from prog and fusion. Just like proggers in 1969 prog found most rock music boring imo Edited by PROGMONSTER2008 - August 09 2009 at 19:39 |
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Hyardacil
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Posted: August 09 2009 at 14:54 | |
Well you could always trick someone else to doing it...
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