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GaryB 
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 Topic: Medical Cannabis
Posted: August 21 2009 at 08:34 |
I don't know about the rest of the world but for the last few years more and more states in the US have voted in the use of medical cannabis for the treatment of chronic pain. Along with gun control, abortion and gay marriage, medical cannabis has become a controversial issue when it shows up on any state ballot. Controversial issues usually make interesting discussions.
This is not about Bill and Ted excellently sharing a bong while watching Wayne's World, This is about the legitimate medical use of cannabis.
Secondly, I would like to hear from people in other countries about similar programs if any exist..
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: August 21 2009 at 08:53 |
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I'd go further, prohibition against medical use and personal enjoyment just doesn't work. The prohibition of alcohol gave rise to the mafia, the prohibition against pot has given rise to drug gangs in and from Mexico.
But to the confines of medical use only. It just makes sense. If it helps with glaucoma and nausea relief for chemo patients, etc. why not?
Back off topic, this stuff being demonized has also led to hemp being illegal, which doesn't get anyone high and is a useful and valuable crop.
Edited by Slartibartfast - August 21 2009 at 08:58
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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CPicard
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Posted: August 21 2009 at 11:14 |
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It's the only use of cannabis I can accept, just as morphine and other drugs (yeah, I'm not very liberal when talking about drugs).
Using drugs for pleasure is just the sign of a weak mind.
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TheCaptain
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Posted: August 21 2009 at 11:39 |
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THE QUESTION OF THE POLL DOES NOT LEND ITSELF TO BEING ANSWERED WITH "I AGREE" OR "I DISAGREE." ALSO, I LIKE TO SHOUT.
In a related note, I am for the use of medical marijuana so I voted "I AGREE" figuring that is the proper response for my disposition.
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Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: August 21 2009 at 12:24 |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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CPicard
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Posted: August 21 2009 at 12:33 |
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Queen By-Tor
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Posted: August 21 2009 at 12:34 |
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I use it to treat overthinking.
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Leningrad
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Posted: August 21 2009 at 12:39 |
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you're all banned
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Queen By-Tor
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Posted: August 21 2009 at 12:46 |
 Leningrad wrote:
you're all banned |
I'm surprised this hasn't been locked yet  but hey, we're Canadian, it's legal here anyways. 
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JJLehto
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Posted: August 21 2009 at 12:57 |
Seeing how this is the PROG archives I'm not too surprised at the results thus far: 8 agrees, 0 for the others
Edited by JJLehto - August 21 2009 at 12:57
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mrcozdude
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Posted: August 21 2009 at 13:00 |
CPicard wrote:
It's the only use of cannabis I can accept, just as morphine and other drugs (yeah, I'm not very liberal when talking about drugs).
Using drugs for pleasure is just the sign of a weak mind.
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Someone who's obviously never tried it.If anything you need a strong mind to handle drugs. I think it's fine,even for pleasure.I don't care for it all that much.I'm one of those people who thinks it should be legalized but if you do it to much and screw yourself up then it's your fault. I refer you all to watch Bill Hicks clips on drugs.
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clarke2001
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Posted: August 21 2009 at 13:08 |
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I have no opinion.
How could I?
How can I know if any substance is being good or bad for human health?
Cannabis, aspirin, salt, water blessed by priest.
I have not clue about medical or pharmaceutical sciences. Hence I can't say.
It's taken for granted aspirin is reducing a head pain. I guess some scientific analysis and verification for acetylsalycin exists.
I don't know if such thing exists for tetrahydrocannabinol. There are numerous articles around, but they're all dealing with controversy of a drug abuse.
It would be interesting to hear an opinion directly from a physician or a pharmacist.
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A Person
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Posted: August 21 2009 at 13:17 |
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Actually, it would be interesting to see the difference between cannabis
and narcotics, in terms of dependency and effectiveness. For example,
if I take a pill of Oxycontin to get rid of a migraine it bits me in the
butt because I get a rebound migraine, which leaves me in the same
place I was in before. I've been taking 500 mg doses of Excedrin since I
was 4 and it's pretty much like eating candy now. No preventative
medications work either, the most effective was an antidepressant, but I
don't like taking that since I feel like an emotionless zombie if I do.
I'm not justifying it only for me, but I know many people in family
that have had them their whole lives. Would it be a viable alternative?
From what I know, it would be nowhere near as destructive as narcotics
for such situations, where there isn't an alternative way to gain
relief.
I wonder what the controversy is over, the drug itself or it's stigma?
It can't be worse than anything that's already legal, I know a person
from school that abused her prescription narcotics, and since she has a
bad knee, is almost free to do so on a whim.
Note: I am not advocating it, I'm trying to compare it to what I have
seen/experienced.
Edited by A Person - August 21 2009 at 14:17
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Queen By-Tor
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Posted: August 21 2009 at 13:29 |
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It does less to you than morphine when in reasonable doses, and if you took enough morphine where the equivalent of cannabis would get you into those states that people so vehemently dislike you'd probably wind up overdosed and dead.
But I'll stop now, because I don't want to get banned.
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Leningrad
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Posted: August 21 2009 at 16:52 |
King By-Tor wrote:
But I'll stop now, because I don't want to get banned.
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take a look at yourself... you're already banned
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Figglesnout
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Posted: August 21 2009 at 18:14 |
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I don't know how anyone could say no to medical marijuana in good conscience.
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I'm a reasonable man, get off my case
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g0rd0nb0mbay
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Posted: August 21 2009 at 19:26 |
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GaryB
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Posted: August 21 2009 at 21:59 |
I thought the poll was very simple to understand. There's a title, Medical Cannabis that tells you exactly what the poll is about. There's a question, How do you feel about the legal use of... And then there's three choices, I agree with the legal use of..., I disagree with the legal use of... and I have no opinion on the legal use of...
I can't make it any simpler than that.
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Captain Capricorn
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Posted: August 21 2009 at 22:06 |
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...it's the only thing that helps me overlook the fact that I'm not reaching my full potential ...& I'm ok with that.
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GaryB
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Posted: August 21 2009 at 22:25 |
Here's how this started. I recently found out that a friend had qualified for medical cannabis and she had been using it for some time. I had always been curious about the proceedure so we talked quite a bit about it.
Basically you call a clinic and make an appointment where you are seen by a REAL doctor. After discussing your condition with you, he determines whether or not you are qualified. If you are, you're given a bunch of paperwork which includes a certificate with an official medical seal and the doctor's signature and a plastic ID card. With that ID card and a valid driver's license you can go to any dispensary in the state and basically, go shopping. Before this all happens you must be referred to the screening clinic by an outside physician.
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